Re: Discuss: Package Naming for Incubator Release of River

2007-07-25 Thread Dan Creswell
Hi Niclas, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > On Monday 23 July 2007 03:14, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: >> On 7/22/07, Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Last Incubating release - the com.sun.jini classes are the wrappers to >>> the org.apache.river classes. >> At that point (I don't see a necessity fo

Re: Discuss: Package Naming for Incubator Release of River

2007-07-25 Thread Dan Creswell
Jim Hurley wrote: > On Jul 23, 2007, at 12:30 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: >> On 7/23/07, Jim Hurley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Jul 22, 2007, at 2:15 PM, Ted Husted wrote: >>> > IMHO, unless there are trademark or licensing issues involved, >>> : >>> >>> I don't believe there are issues

Re: Discuss: Package Naming for Incubator Release of River

2007-07-23 Thread Jim Hurley
On Jul 23, 2007, at 12:30 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: On 7/23/07, Jim Hurley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jul 22, 2007, at 2:15 PM, Ted Husted wrote: > IMHO, unless there are trademark or licensing issues involved, : I don't believe there are issues involved - Sun filed a Software Grant

Re: Discuss: Package Naming for Incubator Release of River

2007-07-23 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Tuesday 24 July 2007 00:30, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: > On 7/23/07, Jim Hurley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jul 22, 2007, at 2:15 PM, Ted Husted wrote: > > > IMHO, unless there are trademark or licensing issues involved, > > > > I don't believe there are issues involved - Sun filed a Sof

Re: Discuss: Package Naming for Incubator Release of River

2007-07-23 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On 7/23/07, Jim Hurley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jul 22, 2007, at 2:15 PM, Ted Husted wrote: > IMHO, unless there are trademark or licensing issues involved, : I don't believe there are issues involved - Sun filed a Software Grant to contribute the code to the Foundation. does the grant co

Re: Discuss: Package Naming for Incubator Release of River

2007-07-23 Thread Jim Hurley
On Jul 22, 2007, at 2:15 PM, Ted Husted wrote: IMHO, unless there are trademark or licensing issues involved, : I don't believe there are issues involved - Sun filed a Software Grant to contribute the code to the Foundation. -Jim ---

Re: Discuss: Package Naming for Incubator Release of River

2007-07-23 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 7/22/07, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: IMHO, unless there are trademark or licensing issues involved, do we have the required trademark license from sun? - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For add

Re: Discuss: Package Naming for Incubator Release of River

2007-07-22 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Monday 23 July 2007 03:14, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: > On 7/22/07, Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Last Incubating release - the com.sun.jini classes are the wrappers to > > the org.apache.river classes. > > At that point (I don't see a necessity for the previous steps, btw, it > only

Re: Discuss: Package Naming for Incubator Release of River

2007-07-22 Thread Davanum Srinivas
How about some tools to make the migration easier? I remember some like this when the com.sun.swing got changed (http://www.ternent.com/tech/regexp.html). Maybe we should whip up a retroweaver like tool for migration efforts (http://retroweaver.sourceforge.net/) - to support existing codebases. I

Re: Discuss: Package Naming for Incubator Release of River

2007-07-22 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
I disagree .. and we've had this conversation here before; with ActiveMQ IIRC. Org.apache.* is a way to let the programmer know that they're using an Apache product and IMO its important to make that transition as part of incubation. I'm +1 to the staged model Niclas proposed. Sanjiva. Willi

Re: Discuss: Package Naming for Incubator Release of River

2007-07-22 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On 7/22/07, Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Last Incubating release - the com.sun.jini classes are the wrappers to the org.apache.river classes. At that point (I don't see a necessity for the previous steps, btw, it only complicates things, IMO) I'd also rec

Re: Discuss: Package Naming for Incubator Release of River

2007-07-22 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Ted Husted wrote: > IMHO, unless there are trademark or licensing issues involved, there > should be no "Apache rules" about Java package naming schemes. Package > names are an arbitrary implementation detail, and the one and only > concern should be what makes the most sense to the individual > co

Re: Discuss: Package Naming for Incubator Release of River

2007-07-22 Thread Ted Husted
IMHO, unless there are trademark or licensing issues involved, there should be no "Apache rules" about Java package naming schemes. Package names are an arbitrary implementation detail, and the one and only concern should be what makes the most sense to the individual community. When it comes to i

Re: Discuss: Package Naming for Incubator Release of River

2007-07-22 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Sunday 22 July 2007 17:52, Dan Creswell wrote: > We would appreciate some clarification in respect of the above and some > guidance on what the minimum requirements might be.  For example would > it be acceptable to create a compatibility layer and thus, for at least > this first release, have b

Discuss: Package Naming for Incubator Release of River

2007-07-22 Thread Dan Creswell
Hello all, After much grinding of gears, the Apache River project has now received from Sun all the relevant source code pertaining to the Jini technology. The process of source code handover has taken a substantial amount of time and thus we (the Apache River project) propose to issue a release