Re: A lot of bodies, a lot of money, and a source-dump release.

2011-06-08 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 07:58:38AM +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: > The ASF does not muddy the waters of open source development with cash. Our > sponsors do not sponsor specific projects or activities. For this reason we > cannot ask IBM or anyone else to pay for this podling. > > I do agree that th

Re: A lot of bodies, a lot of money, and a source-dump release.

2011-06-08 Thread Marvin Humphrey
Hello, Niall, On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 10:11:02AM +0100, Niall Pemberton wrote: > If you're right about the costs, they not going to hit from day one - > as the initial effort will be in building the community and building > something that can be released and very little needed in terms of end > us

Re: A lot of bodies, a lot of money, and a source-dump release.

2011-06-07 Thread Niall Pemberton
I have concerns about the proposal, but not with the ones you raise. If you're right about the costs, they not going to hit from day one - as the initial effort will be in building the community and building something that can be released and very little needed in terms of end users - and the ASF

Re: A lot of bodies, a lot of money, and a source-dump release.

2011-06-07 Thread Christian Grobmeier
>>  would then like >> to see a binding committment from IBM to fund this budget -- with cash, > > The ASF does not muddy the waters of open source development with cash. Our > sponsors do not sponsor specific projects or activities. For this reason we > cannot ask IBM or anyone else to pay for t

Re: A lot of bodies, a lot of money, and a source-dump release.

2011-06-06 Thread Ross Gardler
Sent from my mobile device (so please excuse typos) On 7 Jun 2011, at 02:40, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > would then like > to see a binding committment from IBM to fund this budget -- with cash, The ASF does not muddy the waters of open source development with cash. Our sponsors do not sponsor s

A lot of bodies, a lot of money, and a source-dump release.

2011-06-06 Thread Marvin Humphrey
Greetings, After a long period of reflection, I have accumulated many serious concerns about the viability of the proposed OOo podling. There are a lot of unknowns which make it hard to predict whether the project will become self-sustaining -- but while the grand experiment plays out, it is goin