Re: [VOTE] AJAX Toolkit Proposal - Updated (Again)

2006-01-21 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Sam Ruby wrote: Martin van den Bemt wrote: How do you fit in / are going to fit in with http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/atf/ ? Zimbra is mentioned there. If you look closely, that proposal closely matches the diffs between the first draft and second draft of the AJAX Toolkit Proposal th

Re: [VOTE] AJAX Toolkit Proposal - Updated (Again)

2006-01-20 Thread Sam Ruby
Martin van den Bemt wrote: How do you fit in / are going to fit in with http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/atf/ ? Zimbra is mentioned there. If you look closely, that proposal closely matches the diffs between the first draft and second draft of the AJAX Toolkit Proposal that was presented her

Re: [VOTE] AJAX Toolkit Proposal - Updated (Again)

2006-01-20 Thread Martin van den Bemt
How do you fit in / are going to fit in with http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/atf/ ? Zimbra is mentioned there. Mvgr, Martin Andrew Clark wrote: I have made a few modifications to the Ajax proposal Wiki page[1] in an attempt to resolve a few of the issues people have raised. The changes includ

Re: [VOTE] AJAX Toolkit Proposal - Updated (Again)

2006-01-19 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Could you please just restart the vote? AND, given the chatter and discussion, could you post the final proposal to the mail list again for a vote? I'm not trying to slow this down, but after all the muss and fuss, 3 more days won't kill it, and it will be clearer (at least to me...) to have

Re: [VOTE] AJAX Toolkit Proposal - Updated (Again)

2006-01-19 Thread Leo Simons
On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 10:59:57AM -0500, Sam Ruby wrote: > When I originally kicked off this vote, I specified today, midnight, as > the 72-hour-and-then-some deadline. Since then the proposal got a > substantial revision (in particular, a new name) on Tuesday afternoon, > so extending this a

Re: [VOTE] AJAX Toolkit Proposal - Updated (Again)

2006-01-19 Thread Sam Ruby
When I originally kicked off this vote, I specified today, midnight, as the 72-hour-and-then-some deadline. Since then the proposal got a substantial revision (in particular, a new name) on Tuesday afternoon, so extending this a few hours to 4PM PST seems in order. I believe that the current

Re: [VOTE] AJAX Toolkit Proposal - Updated (Again)

2006-01-18 Thread Andrew Clark
Upayavira wrote: > Another concern IIRC was download size. I remember > (possibly incorrectly) that the toolkit has quite a > large download before it will work, while other > toolkits download piecemeal as required. That's certainly one approach. And there are good reasons for doing it all to

Re: [VOTE] AJAX Toolkit Proposal - Updated (Again)

2006-01-18 Thread Ross Dargahi
Just a couple comments on Zimbra's motivations :-) Zimbra has absolutely no commercial interest or monetization goals around its Ajax toolkit. We are a collaboration software company and not a software tools company. We do have a very strong interest in ensuring the success of Ajax in a *non-pr

Re: [VOTE] AJAX Toolkit Proposal - Updated (Again)

2006-01-18 Thread Upayavira
Andrew Clark wrote: > Martin Marinschek wrote: > >>can you just shortly reply to the technical questions >>Martin Cooper has raised on this list? I do think he >>has a valid point there, and I'd like to hear what you >>have to say to that. > > > I went back to the archives and re-read all of

Re: [VOTE] AJAX Toolkit Proposal - Updated (Again)

2006-01-18 Thread Martin Marinschek
For me, the first approach suffices. regards, Martin On 1/18/06, Andrew Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin Marinschek wrote: > > I don't recall anymore what he said specifically - did > > he talk about namespacing? do you do that? > > I was unable to find anything specific to comment on.

Re: [VOTE] AJAX Toolkit Proposal - Updated (Again)

2006-01-18 Thread Andrew Clark
Martin Marinschek wrote: > I don't recall anymore what he said specifically - did > he talk about namespacing? do you do that? I was unable to find anything specific to comment on. Most of Martin Cooper's comments in his posts were about the technology being too immature and that he felt (after l

Re: [VOTE] AJAX Toolkit Proposal - Updated (Again)

2006-01-18 Thread Martin Marinschek
I don't recall anymore what he said specifically - did he talk about namespacing? do you do that? regards, Martin On 1/18/06, Andrew Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin Marinschek wrote: > > can you just shortly reply to the technical questions > > Martin Cooper has raised on this list? I

Re: [VOTE] AJAX Toolkit Proposal - Updated (Again)

2006-01-18 Thread Andrew Clark
Martin Marinschek wrote: > can you just shortly reply to the technical questions > Martin Cooper has raised on this list? I do think he > has a valid point there, and I'd like to hear what you > have to say to that. I went back to the archives and re-read all of Martin's posts on this topic but

Re: [VOTE] AJAX Toolkit Proposal - Updated (Again)

2006-01-18 Thread Martin Marinschek
Andrew, can you just shortly reply to the technical questions Martin Cooper has raised on this list? I do think he has a valid point there, and I'd like to hear what you have to say to that. Plus, please add me in as a committer. If this is to be incubated, I'd rather than not be part of it to be

Re: [VOTE] AJAX Toolkit Proposal - Updated (Again)

2006-01-18 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Jan 17, 2006, at 6:13 PM, Andrew Clark wrote: [1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/KabukiProposal To be clear: +1 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [VOTE] AJAX Toolkit Proposal - Updated (Again)

2006-01-17 Thread Andrew Clark
I have made a few modifications to the Ajax proposal Wiki page[1] in an attempt to resolve a few of the issues people have raised. The changes include: * Changed name to "Kabuki" * Added text to clarify the scope of the project Please let me know if there are any other issues that should be addre