Re: [PROPOSAL] Weave for Apache Incubator

2013-11-07 Thread Andreas Neumann
Thanks David, and the proposal is now on the wiki. On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 12:43 AM, David Crossley wrote: > Andreas Neumann wrote: > > Thank you for the feedback, it looks like the name Twill is appealing > > enough. I will update the proposal with the new name. > > I would also like to put the

Re: [PROPOSAL] Weave for Apache Incubator

2013-11-07 Thread David Crossley
Andreas Neumann wrote: > Thank you for the feedback, it looks like the name Twill is appealing > enough. I will update the proposal with the new name. > I would also like to put the proposal on the incubator wiki (at > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TwillProposal), can you please give me > the p

Re: [PROPOSAL] Weave for Apache Incubator

2013-11-06 Thread Andreas Neumann
Thank you for the feedback, it looks like the name Twill is appealing enough. I will update the proposal with the new name. I would also like to put the proposal on the incubator wiki (at https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TwillProposal), can you please give me the privileges? (my user name is Andre

Re: [PROPOSAL] Weave for Apache Incubator

2013-11-06 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Henry Saputra wrote: > I think Twill fits well with what Weave project trying to do with > Hadoop and still in the spirit of the original weave name. Indeed! Twill is a pretty good name for a project like this. Thanks, Roman. -

Re: [PROPOSAL] Weave for Apache Incubator

2013-11-05 Thread Henry Saputra
I think Twill fits well with what Weave project trying to do with Hadoop and still in the spirit of the original weave name. Other than name, the proposal looks good. Looking forward to the VOTE thread. - Henry On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Andreas Neumann wrote: > Regarding the naming issue,

Re: [PROPOSAL] Weave for Apache Incubator

2013-11-05 Thread Vinod Kumar Vavilapalli
I mentioned this offline to others too. We've had lots of discussions in the past about contrib projects overall in Hadoop and we moved away from there. The same started happening with YARN, and we took a stand that YARN shouldn't run into the same umbrella issue. You can see the JIRA discussio

Re: [PROPOSAL] Weave for Apache Incubator

2013-11-05 Thread Andreas Neumann
Regarding the naming issue, we understand that Weave may be problematic, so we did a little bit of searching for a new name. Here is a list of name candidates in order of our preference: - Tartan - Sisal - Twill Do these ring a bell or raise concerns? A quick search did not bring up any open sour

Re: [PROPOSAL] Weave for Apache Incubator

2013-11-05 Thread Andreas Neumann
Hi Andrei, thanks for offering, we are happy about any help we can get. On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Andrei Savu wrote: > IMO it's a good idea to keep this a separate project - the same way we have > Curator for ZooKeeper. > > If you are looking for one more mentor I'm happy to help. > > --

Re: [PROPOSAL] Weave for Apache Incubator

2013-11-04 Thread Andrei Savu
IMO it's a good idea to keep this a separate project - the same way we have Curator for ZooKeeper. If you are looking for one more mentor I'm happy to help. -- Andrei Savu On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 11:21 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > Have you guys considered contributing this code directly to Had

Re: [PROPOSAL] Weave for Apache Incubator

2013-11-04 Thread Terence Yim
Currently Weave has dependencies on libraries like Kafka, logback, asm, etc, that might not be good idea to added all those as the core Hadoop dependencies. Thanks, Terence On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 11:21 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > Have you guys considered contributing this code directly to Ha

Re: [PROPOSAL] Weave for Apache Incubator

2013-11-03 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Have you guys considered contributing this code directly to Hadoop? >From what you are describing it sounds like a developer friendly library wrapped around YARN (along the lines of kitten: https://github.com/jwills/kitten). Thanks, Roman. On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Andreas Neumann wrot

Re: [PROPOSAL] Weave for Apache Incubator

2013-10-30 Thread David Nalley
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Upayavira wrote: > And Apache Wave too (which is what I first saw before I read the title > more carefully). > > Upayavira > > On Tue, Oct 29, 2013, at 09:12 PM, Matt Benson wrote: >> Hi, >> I am concerned about potential confusion with Apache Commons Weaver >>

Re: [PROPOSAL] Weave for Apache Incubator

2013-10-30 Thread Steve Rowe
Random lurker project name suggestion: yarnbomb - see < http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yarn_bombing> /me relurking Steve On Oct 30, 2013 2:00 PM, "Donald Whytock" wrote: > Knit, crochet, macrame? > > Though, honestly, pulling lower-level components together into higher-level > ones sounds a lit

Re: [PROPOSAL] Weave for Apache Incubator

2013-10-30 Thread Donald Whytock
Knit, crochet, macrame? Though, honestly, pulling lower-level components together into higher-level ones sounds a little like granny squares... Don On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:53 AM, Andreas Neumann wrote: > Pardon my ignorance, I just looked it up and realized that warp and weft > are indeed r

Re: [PROPOSAL] Weave for Apache Incubator

2013-10-29 Thread Andreas Neumann
Marvin, I agree that building a diverse community and users and committers will the greatest challenge for Weave (or what it will be named). One of main motivations for open-sourcing Weave is that it will benefit from the variety of use cases that will emerge outside of our office, and will eventu

Re: [PROPOSAL] Weave for Apache Incubator

2013-10-29 Thread Andreas Neumann
Pardon my ignorance, I just looked it up and realized that warp and weft are indeed related to weaving, so they might work. I do have the impression, though, that most people would associate Warp with the speed of light and not with weaving. -Andreas. On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:41 AM, Andreas Neum

Re: [PROPOSAL] Weave for Apache Incubator

2013-10-29 Thread Andreas Neumann
Thanks for pointing out these similarities; we were not aware of Commons Weaver. Given that Weaver is a sub-project of Commons, would the similarity be tolerable? Also, since Weave and Wave are pronounced quite differently, I am hoping that they are perceived as different enough. The name Weave is

Re: [PROPOSAL] Weave for Apache Incubator

2013-10-29 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Andreas Neumann wrote: > I would like to propose Weave, an abstraction over Apache Hadoop® YARN to > reduce the complexity of developing distributed applications, as an Apache > Incubator podling. Leaving aside the naming issues, the proposal is well crafted and

Re: [PROPOSAL] Weave for Apache Incubator

2013-10-29 Thread sebb
In which case, maybe consider the related words: Apache Warp Apache Weft Just a thought. On 29 October 2013 22:14, Upayavira wrote: > And Apache Wave too (which is what I first saw before I read the title > more carefully). > > Upayavira > > On Tue, Oct 29, 2013, at 09:12 PM, Matt Benson wrote:

Re: [PROPOSAL] Weave for Apache Incubator

2013-10-29 Thread Upayavira
And Apache Wave too (which is what I first saw before I read the title more carefully). Upayavira On Tue, Oct 29, 2013, at 09:12 PM, Matt Benson wrote: > Hi, > I am concerned about potential confusion with Apache Commons Weaver > [1]. > > Matt > > [1] https://commons.apache.org/proper/commo

Re: [PROPOSAL] Weave for Apache Incubator

2013-10-29 Thread Matt Benson
Hi, I am concerned about potential confusion with Apache Commons Weaver [1]. Matt [1] https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-weaver/ On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Andreas Neumann wrote: > I would like to propose Weave, an abstraction over Apache Hadoop® YARN to > reduce the complexity

[PROPOSAL] Weave for Apache Incubator

2013-10-29 Thread Andreas Neumann
I would like to propose Weave, an abstraction over Apache Hadoop® YARN to reduce the complexity of developing distributed applications, as an Apache Incubator podling. The proposal is included in plain text. I would also like to put this on the wiki, but I appear to lack privileges to create pages