Hello everyone,
It's been 12 days since this discussion started on May 31, 2021. After June
6, there are no more new questions arising. So I'd like to summarize the
results of this discussion so we can move forward.
Thank you very much to everyone at the Apache IPMC for suggesting changes
to our
Hi Ming,
Thanks for your question.
As mentioned in the proposal, Kyuubi was first developed and applied in
NetEase in 2018. The early scenario we wanted to address was
straightforward - to provide data analysts with a Spark-based analytics
platform. This platform needed to support multi-tenancy [
You can see the trend chart from
https://www.apiseven.com/zh/contributor-graph?chart=contributorMonthlyActivity&repo=NetEase/kyuubi
Ming Wen 于2021年6月6日 周日上午7:28写道：
> hi, Kent,
>
> From 2018 to 2020, kuyybi is not an active project, most of the time there
> is only one contributor per month. But
hi, Kent,
>From 2018 to 2020, kuyybi is not an active project, most of the time there
is only one contributor per month. But in 2021, there will be 8 active
contributors every month. What is the reason for this?
Willem Jiang 于2021年6月3日 周四下午12:53写道：
> I think we can revisit the PPMC part and ha
I think we can revisit the PPMC part and have more discussion with the
initial committers.
It's a good chance to let them know better about how to run an open
source project in Apache Way.
Willem Jiang
Twitter: willemjiang
Weibo: 姜宁willem
On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 11:52 AM Atri Sharma wrote:
>
>
Hi Atri,
I've checked the contribution this year:
https://github.com/NetEase/kyuubi/graphs/contributors?from=2021-01-01&to=2021-05-31&type=c
According to this page, I don't think one contributor/company is
dominating. The number of active developers is 4, which is currently
low, but I think it is
Hi Atri,
I shared the same concern with you when Kent Yao came to me two month ago.
I think he already realized it and made some improvements recently.
He told me he want to build up the community around Sparks ecosystem
by donating this project into ASF last week.
He did a presentation about it
+1
Kyuubi is useful for us. In chinamobile soft's big data platform, we use kyuubi
to solve the problem of multi tenant access for a long time. It's helpful and
easy to use.
I just joined Kyuubi community for a short time, but I really enjoy the process
of cooperation with the community. I hop
I would like to hear from Kyuubi's mentors on the topic before reaching a
conclusion.
On Thu, 3 Jun 2021, 05:40 Sheng Wu, wrote:
> Kent
>
> Thanks.
> The proposal is generally better this time.
>
> If your initial committers and your mentors agree, you are ready to embrace
> the ASF culture, I a
Thanks very much, Sheng :)
Sheng Wu 于2021年6月3日周四 上午8:10写道：
> Kent
>
> Thanks.
> The proposal is generally better this time.
>
> If your initial committers and your mentors agree, you are ready to embrace
> the ASF culture, I am good with that.
> Just from my experience, your community looks a
Hi Justion，
Thanks for your suggestions.
We won't copy their bar blindly from the Spark community. We appreciate all
the help from our contributors and will try our best to help them when they
help the community. We will continue to develop more committers among them
to make the community grow be
Kent
Thanks.
The proposal is generally better this time.
If your initial committers and your mentors agree, you are ready to embrace
the ASF culture, I am good with that.
Just from my experience, your community looks a little too young, like
Atri's concern, which is reasonable.
But I would like t
HI,
> We've open-sourced Kyuubi under Apache License v2.0 and tried out best to
> learn the Apache Way from many mature ASF TLPs, mostly Apache Spark.
Spark is a sightly unusual project that has high activity and a very high
committer bar, I wouldn’t recommend that you copy that feature of thei
Hi Sheng,
Truly sorry for the format issue.
Please trust me I did not mean to hurt anybody and push any contributor
away. We drafted this proposal together based on the New Podling Proposal.
We never tried to use PPMC and committer to measure whose contribution is
higher. This mistake has been fi
Hi all,
Thanks for the review and questions.
I'm one of the Kyuubi committers, and have participated in the recent 6 months,
include code changes[1], PR reviews,
documents improvements, discussions, etc.
I'd like to say, both Kent and other committers are nice and patient persons,
and most
I am genuinely worried about one contributor being the dominant of all.
This puts the stability of the project in jeopardy and unless this is
remedied, I feel the project should focus on developing a more diverse
community first.
On Wed, 2 Jun 2021, 20:23 Sheng Wu, wrote:
> Hi Kent
>
> Thanks f
Hi Kent
Thanks for replying, but to be honest, your mail format is chaos.
Take a look at bellowing, which is what I saw in the gmail.
This may be an issue of your mail client or some else.
> The current #.2 - 5 top
> contributors will stay as committers, and they will join the PPMC during
> incu
Hi Leo,
Thanks for sharing, this is helpful. Looking forward to Bigo joining
Kyuubi:)
Bests,
Kent Yao
liyihe 于2021年6月2日周三 下午9:01写道：
> Kyuubi has been used in Bigo’s bigdata platform for a long time. Very
> helpful to us. Looking forward to Kyuubi becoming an ASF project.
> Best regards,
> Leo
Hi Sheng,
Thanks for your detailed check and valuable comments. They are
accommodating. I have addressed some of them directly in the proposal.
Please also check the table below for some Q&As.
QA
You listed only 5 core maintainers, but clearly only one has dominated
contributions. The distortion a
Kyuubi has been used in Bigo’s bigdata platform for a long time. Very helpful
to us. Looking forward to Kyuubi becoming an ASF project.
Best regards,
Leo Li
Hi
I read the contributor list and the proposal
> The risk of the Kyuubi project being abandoned is minimal. Many
organizations are using Kyuubi to build critical big data pipelines and
willing to help develop Kyuubi's community if it becomes an ASF project.
I think the team should evaluate the s
Hi Atri Sharma,
I just notice that you might mean '3 years' not '3 months' in your
first mail, LOL. Sorry for the confusion.
After borrowed the PR merge tool[1] from one Apache project to learn how
they manage PR and commits, we start to use it to merge PRs, which squashes
all commits in one sing
Nice job, i am looking foward to more interesting feature.
On 2021/05/31 06:21:14, Kent Yao wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> We want to propose Kyuubi as a new Apache Incubator project.
>
> Kyuubi is a distributed multi-tenant Thrift JDBC/ODBC server for
> large-scale data management, processing, and an
looks like a very practical project
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looks niubility
On 2021/05/31 06:21:14, Kent Yao wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> We want to propose Kyuubi as a new Apache Incubator project.
>
> Kyuubi is a distributed multi-tenant Thrift JDBC/ODBC server for
> large-scale data management, processing, and analytics, built on top
> of Apache Spark and
looks useful
On 2021/05/31 06:21:14, Kent Yao wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> We want to propose Kyuubi as a new Apache Incubator project.
>
> Kyuubi is a distributed multi-tenant Thrift JDBC/ODBC server for
> large-scale data management, processing, and analytics, built on top
> of Apache Spark and de
+1 (non-binding) for incubation.
On 2021/05/31 07:29:31, Kent Yao wrote:
> Hi Alexander Alten,
>
> Thanks for your interest and +1 for Kyuubi.
>
> Not being very familiar with Dremel, I just took a quick look at the
> profile of a very similar and exciting project, Apache Drill. If I
> unders
Thanks.
I looked at the link you advised on and if I am reading it correctly, top
committer has 630ish commits and the next committer has 73 commits?
IMO this is an indication of the community not being active enough and
hence the risk of project getting orphaned is measurable.
Atri
On Wed, 2 J
looks interesting
On 2021/05/31 06:21:14, Kent Yao wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> We want to propose Kyuubi as a new Apache Incubator project.
>
> Kyuubi is a distributed multi-tenant Thrift JDBC/ODBC server for
> large-scale data management, processing, and analytics, built on top
> of Apache Spark
+1 (non-binding).
On 2021/05/31 06:21:14, Kent Yao wrote:
> Dear all,>
>
> We want to propose Kyuubi as a new Apache Incubator project.>
>
> Kyuubi is a distributed multi-tenant Thrift JDBC/ODBC server for>
> large-scale data management, processing, and analytics, built on top>
> of Apache Spark
Hi Atri Sharma,
It's easier to check out the recent contribution of kyuubi from this link[1].
We already identified the one person contribution issue of kyuubi when
Kent came to us and we kept reminding him to put more effort into
building the community.
Last week I had a long F2F conversation wit
Hi Atri Sharma,
Thanks for your interest and review.
We've open-sourced Kyuubi under Apache License v2.0 and tried out best to
learn the Apache Way from many mature ASF TLPs, mostly Apache Spark. And
many of the current Kyuubi committers have contributing history for one or
more Apache projects.
Hi,
I took a look at commit log and seems like all the commits for last 3
months have been done by a single person.
How active are the remaining committers?
On Mon, 31 May 2021, 12:59 Kent Yao, wrote:
> Hi Alexander Alten,
>
> Thanks for your interest and +1 for Kyuubi.
>
> Not being very fami
+1 (non-binding).
Good luck.
Regards,
Fei
On 2021/5/31, 3:45 PM, "Kent Yao" wrote:
External Email
Hi Jean-Baptiste Onofre,
thanks for your reply.
You are correct. And we are focusing on the part processing with Spark
not storage with Hive. Since Spark provides Datasourc
Hi Jean-Baptiste Onofre,
thanks for your reply.
You are correct. And we are focusing on the part processing with Spark
not storage with Hive. Since Spark provides Datasource V2, the data
access and connectivity need not bind to Hive in the Spark layer, it
becomes more and more promising.
Bests
K
Hi Alexander Alten,
Thanks for your interest and +1 for Kyuubi.
Not being very familiar with Dremel, I just took a quick look at the
profile of a very similar and exciting project, Apache Drill. If I
understand correctly, Kyuubi is built on top of the compute layer
(Apache Spark), while Apache Dr
Hi Kent Yao,
It looks interesting. Correct me if I’m wrong, but it seems to be more a SQL
gateway, more than a "server", meaning that the storage is delegated to Hive
and processing to Spark, right ?
Regards
JB
> Le 31 mai 2021 à 08:21, Kent Yao a écrit :
>
> Dear all,
>
> We want to propos
Hey,
Looks like an interesting project, competition to Starburst. How does it
compare to Apache Dremel?
+1 (non-binding) for incubation.
Thanks and stay safe,
--alex
On Mon, May 31, 2021, 08:21 Kent Yao wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> We want to propose Kyuubi as a new Apache Incubator project.
>
> K
Dear all,
We want to propose Kyuubi as a new Apache Incubator project.
Kyuubi is a distributed multi-tenant Thrift JDBC/ODBC server for
large-scale data management, processing, and analytics, built on top
of Apache Spark and designed to support more engines (i.e., Apache
Flink). We are aiming to
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