I prefer simple. I'd rather see nominations and votes done via-email with IPMC
votes noted as (binding).
My +1 for nominating Benson.
On Oct 2, 2012, at 10:07 AM, sebb wrote:
> Indeed, but that might be better done if/when Steve is enhanced to
> support private (as opposed to secret) votes,
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Added my name, but, haven't mentors already kind of volunteered for this by
virtue that they are mentoring?
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> Hi,
>
> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at
+1 (binding)
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On Apr 9, 2012, at 9:32 PM, Kevin Kluge wrote:
> Hi All. I'd like to call for a VOTE for CloudStack to enter the Incubator.
> The proposal is available at [1] and I have also
rent
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The proposal looks good. I'm excited that the community is looking to grow at
the ASF. I'm working on similar technology in my day job at IBM and am
interested in getting involved. Happy to mentor if you need, although, it has
quite a large list now as I look at the Wiki.
Matt
g the thing that is voted on and the other binaries are
merely convenience items, I would support the first option. Also, making sure
the other comments on NOTICEs are addressed as well.
Unfortunate that you god dog piled on but hopefully we're all better prepared
going forward.
doesn't have a versioned release? The
only method I know of is to capture their source, and build a binary at a
stable level to include in your projects release.
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On Mar 29, 2012, at 9:07 AM, Bertrand Delacre
s and source. In some cases,
the source contains binaries which are dependencies but in no case that I'm
aware of are the binaries not from an open, referenceable and verifiable open
source project.
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Different venue is fine. I was merely observing that we (almost every project)
produces source and binaries distributions from the same pages. Hard to argue
we don't distribute binaries; we do.
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On M
Sorry. Meant ASF not ASC. My thumbs are too big for my phone.
My point is that if push came to shove, legally, I think the -bin objects would
be considered a distribution.
Matt Hogstrom
On Mar 26, 2012, at 13:36, Matt Hogstrom wrote:
> Second, Apache projects only release SOURCE.
ges emanate from the projects at the ASC.
Matt Hogstrom
On Mar 26, 2012, at 12:05, "Roy T. Fielding" wrote:
> Second, Apache projects only release SOURCE. We don't release
> third party binaries, period.
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On Mar 26, 2012, at 10:52 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Currently new podlings have most of their infrastructure (lists, web
> site, svn, etc.) set up under incubator.ap
find com.bitmechanic:jdbcpool:jar:0.99 in
http://repo1.maven.org/maven2 was cached in the local repository, resolution
will not be reattempted until the update interval of central has elapsed or
updates are forced -> [Help 1]
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Compiled, verified checksums, review notices and spot checked source for
licenses.
+1 (binding)
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On Mar 23, 2012, at 11:06 AM, Prasad Mujumdar wrote:
> +1
> Verified checksums, signatures, and ran
Thanks for the clarification.
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On Mar 22, 2012, at 6:15 PM, Alan Gates wrote:
> Just to be clear, my intention was not to diminish people who only add docs,
> fix small problems, etc. On the Pig proj
I'll throw in my +1 too. Folks that provide doc are just as valuable as folks
writing code as it delivers value for the consumer of the project. Its value
to the project being delivered in different ways.
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Past the 72 hour notation below but I didn't see a final tally.
On Jun 10, 2011, at 12:02 PM, Sam Ruby wrote:
> *** Please change your Subject: line for any [DISCUSSION] of this [VOTE]
>
> As the discussions on the OpenOfficeProposal t
+1
On Apr 6, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Kevan Miller wrote:
> Here's my +1
>
> Signature/checksum, license/notice, RAT, and general snooping about -- all
> look good.
>
> --kevan
>
> On Apr 4, 2011, at 1:47 PM, Josh Thompson wrote:
>
>> Incubator PMC,
>>
>> We just had a vote based on RC1 but found
I think Joe hit the nail on the head. Its the mentors that help to guide a
project. If the mentors don't get it the project is off to a shaky start.
On May 29, 2010, at 5:05 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
> Frankly the whole idea seems misdirected at incoming projects,
> when it should be directed at
+1 (binding)
On May 12, 2010, at 8:45 PM, David Lutterkort wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> after the discussion so far [1], I'd like to put Detlacloud for a vote
> for acceptance into the Apache Incubator according to the proposal[2]
>
> I _think_ I've added everybody who expressed interest in being a men
ame PMC.
>
> How is "cloud" different from "xml" or "java" or "web" or "database"? We have
> many communities in Apache that share buzzwords yet have different approaches.
>
> Craig
>
> On May 12, 2010, at 9:29 AM, Matt Hogstr
thinking about this a little I think a TLP that grouped the Cloud technologies
together make a lot of sense. With LibCloud, DeltaCloud, Whirr, etc. as a
start there will clearly be some additional projects coming.
On May 6, 2010, at 3:54 PM, Paul Querna wrote:
> I think it does raise the quest
+1 for Incubation
On May 5, 2010, at 11:06 AM, Tom White wrote:
> We've added three mentors since starting the proposal thread, so I
> would like to start the vote to accept Whirr into the Apache
> Incubator.
>
> The proposal is included below and is also at:
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/W
+1
You can add me as a committer as well ...
On May 6, 2010, at 2:32 PM, Matt Hogstrom wrote:
> Oh yeah, I work for IBM.
>
> On May 6, 2010, at 2:31 PM, Matt Hogstrom wrote:
>
>> Need additional mentors ? I'll volunteer. This is in scope for what I do
>> at
Oh yeah, I work for IBM.
On May 6, 2010, at 2:31 PM, Matt Hogstrom wrote:
> Need additional mentors ? I'll volunteer. This is in scope for what I do at
> work would like to dabble as well.
>
>
> On May 6, 2010, at 1:01 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
>
>> H
Need additional mentors ? I'll volunteer. This is in scope for what I do at
work would like to dabble as well.
On May 6, 2010, at 1:01 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
> Thanks. OK, so then going to your other email, consolidation at some capacity
> may make sense...
>
> Ch
> [X] +1 to recommend UIMA's graduation
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> upon there.
>
> Thanks,
> -Neeraj
>
> Change log:
> 1. Checked in the build.xml from the release artifact into the SVN tag.
> All the release artifacts
> from previous candidate (r5) are the same.
> 2. Updated the SVN revision n
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> The link to the voting thread can be found here :
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-olio-dev/200912.mbox/browser
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On Mar 30, 2009, at 6:09 PM, Shanti Subramanyam - PAE wrote:
This is the first binary release of the Apache Olio project.
We have fixed many bugs and have tested the releases to ensure there
are no major problems.
All package names have been changed to org.apache.olio. We have
updated
Really nice David. I went through VCL and Olio and the info is spot
on. Thanks!
On Oct 19, 2008, at 6:37 AM, David Crossley wrote:
http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html
The coloured summary table is intended to encourage
and nuture.
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+1 I guess this little piggy went to Hadoop
On Oct 17, 2008, at 2:44 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
Hi Incubator PMC,
The Pig [1] and Hadoop [2] communities have voted to graduate Pig as a
Hadoop subproject.
According to [3| the Incubator PMC needs to accept this graduation.
Please cast yo
+1 (binding)
Good luck
On Oct 12, 2008, at 10:50 AM, Gurkan Erdogdu wrote:
Incubator PMC,
Please vote on accepting the OpenWebBeans project for incubation.
The full
OpenWebBeans proposal is available at the end of this message and as
a wiki
page at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenW
Mistake on my part Roland. It's not that I don't love you but more
likely my eyes are old.
Ammended here to 9 +1's.
On Oct 11, 2008, at 12:29 PM, Roland Weber wrote:
Matt Hogstrom wrote:
In total there were 9 +1 votes cast.
7 Binding +1's and 2 non-binding.
Why do
+1
On Oct 2, 2008, at 4:00 PM, Thorsten Scherler wrote:
Please vote on accepting Droids into incubation.
The proposal can be found at:
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/DroidsProposal
The text of the proposal
= Droids, an intelligent standalone robot framework =
=== Abstract ===
Droids aim
How did I know that was coming ?
On Oct 1, 2008, at 1:47 PM, Craig L Russell wrote:
Care to write a patch? ;-)
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Thanks Bill. Following the bouncing ball from our documentation (http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Process_Description.html
):
*If that vote is affirmative, the Sponsor will propose to the
Incubator PMC (referencing the voting result e-mail) that your
candidate project be accepted by t
Thinking about this as the thread has drawn on has caused me to change
my mind from a -1 to a +1. The reason for the shift is my own twisted
rationale that
a) users most likely don't care about dependencies a project uses but
are more concerned about getting the functionality of the main p
In total there were 9 +1 votes cast.
7 Binding +1's and 2 non-binding.
Binding votes were:
Alan Cabrera
Bertrand Delacretaz
Matt Hogstrom
Kevan Miller
Matthieu Riou
Craig Russell
Henning Schmiedehausen
Emmanuel Lecharny
Roland Weber
Can the PMC ACK this result and we'll start the
I was planning on closing this vote Friday September 26 at 12:00 ET.
Just a heads up
On Sep 19, 2008, at 12:36 AM, Matt Hogstrom wrote:
This item has been out for discussion for a few weeks. Please
indicate your preference for accepting VCL to the Incubator.
Proposal is included below
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Olio sounds good.
Thanks to Janne for pointing out the Finnish variants. Its getting
harder to find a good name nowadays.
On Sep 22, 2008, at 12:44 PM, Shanti Subramanyam - PAE wrote:
Olio is short and easy. I don't like the "hodgepdge" defintion. But
then the dictionary also says "medle
Thanks Kevan.
I'll call the vote after its baked a little longer and Bertrand
provides his input.
On Sep 22, 2008, at 2:21 PM, Kevan Miller wrote:
On Sep 22, 2008, at 11:48 AM, Matt Hogstrom wrote:
Bertrand,
On Sep 22, 2008, at 3:42 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
Sorry about
Bertrand,
On Sep 22, 2008, at 3:42 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
Sorry about that, but considering the list of committers with just one
@apache.org address, I think three mentors are required.
There are currently two @apache.org folks which I'd consider mentoring
and that would be myself
Robert,
Sorry to hear about your "stop". A brave new world I 'spect.
Thanks for the update.
Matt
On Sep 21, 2008, at 6:01 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:
the british police have - over the last few years - accumulated a
number of arbitrary powers including the rights to private keys and
p
I'd be happy to help out Craig...please list me as a mentor.
On Aug 26, 2008, at 5:45 PM, Craig L Russell wrote:
We're looking for a couple more mentors.
Web20Kit
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ing would compare to Tashi (see [1]). Sounds to me like there
would be
a lot of common ground, no?
Thanks,
Matthieu
[1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TashiProposal
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wrote:
Although I would like to think that the
+1
On Sep 19, 2008, at 12:36 AM, Matt Hogstrom wrote:
This item has been out for discussion for a few weeks. Please
indicate your preference for accepting VCL to the Incubator.
Proposal is included below for posterity. We're looking for a few
more mentors. If there is discu
ccept VCL into Incubator
[ ] 0 No preference
[ ] -1 Do not accept VCL (please state rationale)
VCL Proposal
A proposal to the Apache Software Foundation Incubator PMC by
Matt Hogstrom*, Aaron Peeler#, Mladen Vouk#
*IBM, #North Carolina State University
September 6, 2008
1. Abstract
VCL
Sonata is clever
On Sep 16, 2008, at 4:12 PM, Shanti Subramanyam - PAE wrote:
Since I didn't see any response to the proposed names below, here
are a couple more :
potpourri
sonata (4 movements: web/cache/objectstore/db ? )
Shanti
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-1
same as Craig, et al
On Sep 15, 2008, at 10:19 PM, Kevan Miller wrote:
My vote is -1.
On Sep 10, 2008, at 12:45 PM, Craig L Russell wrote:
Considering that dependencies on incubating releases can be
resolved by explicitly adding an incubating Maven repository into
your settings, I d
that
this is ready to go to a vote? I hope for the comments.
Thanks
On Sep 6, 2008, at 12:20 AM, Matt Hogstrom wrote:
This is a proposal to incubate http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/VCLProposal
Posted on the Incubator Wiki is a Proposal that is being bring
together a community around fu
to comments, questions and and some feedback. Rather than
post the contents here the link is provided at the top.
We're looking for a couple more mentors.
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+1 (binding)
On Aug 25, 2008, at 1:22 PM, James Dixson wrote:
Please vote on accepting Etch into the Incubator.
The Etch proposal is at:
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/EtchProposal
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On Aug 4, 2008, at 1:48 PM, Doug Cutting wrote:
Please vote on accepting Tashi into the Incubator.
Tashi's proposal is at:
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TashiProposal
Thanks!
Doug
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On Jun 26, 2008, at 3:58 PM, Craig L Russell wrote:
While updating the PPMC new committer voting guide, I notice that
there has been no recent action on https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-72
An affirmative vote is required to change the policy, which
currently confuses the
For the most part Geronimo is consumed as a whole and this hasn't been
an issue. For those modules that are re-used there hasn't been any
issues. You need to be aware of that. If they checkout and build the
project locally the artifacts copied into your local repo.
On May 30, 2008, at 10
On May 30, 2008, at 8:53 AM, Brian E. Fox wrote:
IMO, things going into the central repository must have their entire
transitive hull available in the central repository. Therefore, we
must
draw one of two conclusions:
1. Incubator releases go into Central
2. Regular releases
+1
On Feb 7, 2008, at 7:27 PM, Ted Husted wrote:
Here's my binding +1 on the Thrift proposal.
On Jan 23, 2008 9:07 PM, Mark Slee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi all,
We've just posted the Apache Incubator proposal for Thrift onto the
Wiki:
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ThriftProposal
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+1
On Feb 9, 2008, at 11:09 AM, Sam Ruby wrote:
We've had an initial discussion, which attracted a number of messages
of encouragement, and identified no issues or concerns. Then we
proceeded onto a proposal, which attracted three excellent mentors.
Now it is time to vote on the proposal whic
That is the problem ... these guys (gals) are so good there is no bad
code. Thus, no JIRAs
Perhaps the Fabric 3 project needs more coders :)
Good to hear from you Jeremy !
On Jan 9, 2008, at 4:01 PM, Jeremy Boynes wrote:
Migrate any remaining JIRAs?
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Ant pinged me and gently reminded me there had been no response to his
comment. My apologies for closing the vote before clearing this up.
On Dec 13, 2007, at 3:42 AM, ant elder wrote:
The proposal mentions continuing to allow for independent releases
of the
Yoko code that gets moved to
There have been sufficient +1 votes with no dissenting votes.
There was discussion about IP clearance which we'll make sure is
covered in the process of relocating the code. Thanks for the votes
and comments.
On Dec 10, 2007, at 10:26 PM, Matt Hogstrom wrote:
Below is a proposal tha
My +1 ... sorry
On Dec 17, 2007, at 8:36 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
On Dec 12, 2007, at 5:28 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
On Tuesday 11 December 2007 11:26, Matt Hogstrom wrote:
[x] +1 Approve the below proposal and code migration to
Apache Geronimo and CXF respectively
+1
Below is a proposal that was discussed and brought forward by the Yoko
Community. In a nutshell the proposal is to create a Yoko sub-project
of Apache Geronimo for the Core ORB and to move the bindings to CXF.
Please read the proposal below for all the detail.
This proposal was brought fo
On Dec 4, 2007, at 10:57 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
I still vote +1 as I am convinced that the WS PMC will be
able to deal with that if it becomes a problem.
My +1 ... same comments.
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On Nov 23, 2007, at 3:10 AM, ant elder wrote:
Ask people to self nominate - I imagine often inactive commiters
won't
put themselves forward, removing any issue. Then maybe a review of
the
list by the the mentors and proposed PMC Chair. If there are issues
it
can be discussed in the commun
+1
On Nov 9, 2007, at 1:03 PM, Brian McCallister wrote:
Shindig Proposal
--
= Abstract =
Shindig will develop the container and backend server components
for hosting OpenSocial applications.
= Proposal =
Shindig will develop a JavaScript container and implementations of
the backend APIs and
On Oct 30, 2007, at 11:16 PM, Erik Abele wrote:
Well, usually our voting guidelines require three +1 etc. so for
example having only three committers from a single company makes
voting kind of pointless :-)
Perhaps. I know on Geronimo, and i suspect other projects as well,
that there
On Oct 30, 2007, at 11:58 PM, Matthieu Riou wrote:
"there are at least 3 legally independent committers and there is no
single
company or entity that is vital to the success of the project"
What does legally independent mean? Not paid by the same company to
work on a project? I'd be ok
I didn't see a thread get started on this topic yet but I've been
mulling this over for a bit so perhaps we can continue the discussion
in this thread?
I'm not sure that there should be a hard requirement for 3, 5 or n
unique committers. As a guideline I think three is a good working
num
+1
On Oct 30, 2007, at 6:03 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:
i'd like to propose that the IPMC sponsors the entry of RAT into the
incubator
- robert
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<
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[ ] +1 Allow RAT to enter incubator, sp
I'll volunteer...having done lot's of releases for Geronimo I have an
affinity for the little beast.
On Oct 23, 2007, at 4:52 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:
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Mentors
--
* Yoav Shapira
* Ross Gardler
I would p
Jim,
Thanks for this feedback. I think you raise a good point that one of
the goals of community building is discovering a community's true
synergies and strengths and that sometimes the right outcome is not a
single community. Where goals are mis-aligned then a respectful
change of dir
[X ] +1 Accept Composer project for incubation
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Here is a quick initial definition. I believe that it is the
committer's responsibility to properly state their affiliation. For
instance, if a committer contributed to a project and it was approved
by their employer (company A) but not actually part of their
immediate duties I wouldn't
Not to go down a rat hole but I think that clarifying the
affiliations needs some refinement. On Apache Geronimo we have a few
committers that work for IBM but their participation is not part of
their day job. Would the committer in question for this situation
state that they are independ
+1
On Oct 4, 2007, at 4:48 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:
ATM the policy document () specifies a post graduation check list.
this is unsatisfactory since:
1. the IPMC's responsibility finished when the board accepts the
graduation
2. the check list is in a RTC policy document which increa
On Sep 16, 2007, at 11:20 AM, Kevan Miller wrote:
I wasn't involved in the forking of the code. However, it is my
understanding that we only forked the bare minimum function
(ASN1.codec) that Geronimo required. So, very likely that our code
would not suit the needs of other projects.
Noel,
I sent a note to the Incubator PMC yesterday. (Assuming its
[EMAIL PROTECTED]). not sure if its stuck in moderation
or not.
On Aug 20, 2007, at 10:20 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
Ken Coar has stepped down as one of Yoko's mentors and
Matt Hogstro
+1 here.
On May 22, 2007, at 3:03 AM, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
I have uploaded a version of ServiceMix 3.1.1 in the standard repo
for you to review. See
http://incubator.apache.org/servicemix/servicemix-311.html
for the future download page and release notes (these are also
included in
the
di
OpenEJB is in the process of graduating from incubation. A question
has come up about the composition of the PMC for a resolution that is
brought the board as a request to be a TLP. Is it standard practice
to take the existing PPMC forward to the board or can the project, in
its discretio
We're using -Mn (milestone) suffixes in Geronimo. In the release
notes we specifically cal out this is not a certified version but a
work in progress.
On Mar 15, 2007, at 5:39 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
As long as you mark it as UNTESTED or BETA per the JAX-WS part -
IOW, make no clai
Regarding Bouncy Castle, IIRC they used to include the IDEA algorithm
in their distribution and provided a one-off for Geronimo to use to
bypass the patent issue. Not sure if that is an issue or not for
Tuscany but just a heads up.
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I'm still receiving messages to moderate for the WADI Incubator. Since the podling never matured
and I believe is now defunct what do we need to do to stop the moderate messages. I'm happy to do
I'm just not sure how.
Cheers,
Matt
I'd sat let Hani in perhaps he has some better ideas of how things should be done. If not,
then he can wax eloquent about what went wrong. Either way...it will be a win and most entertaining.
Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 13:52 -0400, Sakala, Adinarayana wrote:
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