Re: [DISCUSS] Whimsy PMC

2015-04-28 Thread Greg Stein
On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: >... > In case you're curious -- I'd ask the same question, for example, > about a community > that decided to produce software that is be only applicable as an add-on > for a small market share commercial offering. > The Foundation does

Re: [DISCUSS] Whimsy PMC

2015-04-28 Thread Sam Ruby
On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 3:21 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Roman Shaposhnik > wrote: > >> > Graduation does not require diversity of the PMC. It requires that the >> project be run according to >> > the Apache Way which includes being open to any viewpoint brought to t

Re: [DISCUSS] Whimsy PMC

2015-04-28 Thread Ted Dunning
On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > > Graduation does not require diversity of the PMC. It requires that the > project be run according to > > the Apache Way which includes being open to any viewpoint brought to the > project, regardless > > of the source. Furthermore, the

Re: [DISCUSS] Whimsy PMC

2015-04-28 Thread Sam Ruby
On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Shane Curcuru wrote: > On 4/27/15 10:05 PM, Greg Stein wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 8:51 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) < >> ross.gard...@microsoft.com> wrote: >> >>> It's a tough one. We could be setting a precedence here that we absolutely >>> do not want

Re: Helping Neo4j Release an Apache2 API for Apache Projects

2015-04-28 Thread Matt Franklin
On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:34 AM Marko Rodriguez wrote: > Hello, > > TinkerPop (http://tinkerpop.incubator.apache.org/), prior to being an > Apache project, provided a tinkerpop-neo4j adaptor with each release. > TinkerPop sees Neo4j as the "reference OLTP implementation" of TinkerPop. > With Tin

RE: [DISCUSS] Whimsy PMC

2015-04-28 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
I've often wondered why we don't open source more of the infra code. Maybe this is the reason. Perhaps we need a new "brand" for such projects. Something like "Apache Foo (Infra)". This would be similar to the "(Incubator)" branding. We could even adopt some of the same policies (e.g. no press

Re: [DISCUSS] Whimsy PMC

2015-04-28 Thread David Nalley
On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 10:18 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) wrote: > I’ll note that the only person I see from infra that has been proposed > in the current PMC is Jake Ferrel: > > * Acquia: Jake Farrell > > Someone also correct me in that I don’t think Jake is a paid infra > contractor. > > In add

Re: [DISCUSS] Whimsy PMC

2015-04-28 Thread David Nalley
On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 10:18 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) wrote: > I’ll note that the only person I see from infra that has been proposed > in the current PMC is Jake Ferrel: > The other person is Dan Norris. Dan is a paid contractor, but talked with me before volunteering himself. I told him ab

RE: [DISCUSS] Whimsy PMC

2015-04-28 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Sam, I don't *want* the role, but if you want one less task to do each month I'd be happy to take on the chair role. If someone actually *wants* the role then let them take it. Ross -Original Message- From: sa3r...@gmail.com [mailto:sa3r...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Sam Ruby Sent: Tuesday

Re: [DISCUSS] Whimsy PMC

2015-04-28 Thread Sam Ruby
On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > > As for going straight to TLP I agree. Sam did say this was a possibility but > I believe he (rightly so) wants to ensure that the proposal is solid before > asking the board and IPMC to consider this path. Suffice it to sa

Re: [DISCUSS] Whimsy PMC

2015-04-28 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > I don't see how this is any different from any other project. The initial > contributors will work on it to > satisfy their needs. If organization X wants to use it they can contribute > code to generalize the > software and m

RE: [DISCUSS] Whimsy PMC

2015-04-28 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
I don't see how this is any different from any other project. The initial contributors will work on it to satisfy their needs. If organization X wants to use it they can contribute code to generalize the software and make it useful to their use case. As long as it doesn't break things for other

Re: [DISCUSS] Whimsy PMC

2015-04-28 Thread James Carman
On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 2:47 PM Sam Ruby Anyone who is so inclined is welcome to edit the proposal directly. > > > No urgency or timeframe in mind (other than preferably starting sometime > in 2015ish). My current thinking is to follow in Steve's footprints and > go directly to TLP, but I'm start

Re: [DISCUSS] Whimsy PMC

2015-04-28 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 9:08 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > Not sure if your concern is diversity or scale, so I'll address both > separately. If your concern is > something else please be more explicit. > > Graduation does not require diversity of the PMC. It requires that the > proje

Re: [DISCUSS] Whimsy PMC

2015-04-28 Thread Shane Curcuru
On 4/27/15 10:05 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 8:51 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) < > ross.gard...@microsoft.com> wrote: > >> It's a tough one. We could be setting a precedence here that we absolutely >> do not want to set. On the other hand, it's problematic (not to mention >>

RE: [DISCUSS] Whimsy PMC

2015-04-28 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Not sure if your concern is diversity or scale, so I'll address both separately. If your concern is something else please be more explicit. Graduation does not require diversity of the PMC. It requires that the project be run according to the Apache Way which includes being open to any viewpoint

Helping Neo4j Release an Apache2 API for Apache Projects

2015-04-28 Thread Marko Rodriguez
Hello, TinkerPop (http://tinkerpop.incubator.apache.org/), prior to being an Apache project, provided a tinkerpop-neo4j adaptor with each release. TinkerPop sees Neo4j as the "reference OLTP implementation" of TinkerPop. With TinkerPop's migration to the Apache Software Foundation, TinkerPop 3.

Re: [DISCUSS] Whimsy PMC

2015-04-28 Thread Brett Porter
I'd like to be on the initial list as well, so I've added myself. On 24 April 2015 at 04:46, Sam Ruby wrote: > Initial sketch placed on the wiki: > > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WhimsyProposal > > Anyone who is so inclined is welcome to edit the proposal directly. > > No urgency or timefra

Re: [DISCUSS] Whimsy PMC

2015-04-28 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Apologies if this has been asked, but Rich's points got me thinking. As it stands, I'm not sure I can see how Whimsy can graduate without us squinting just so. Basically, I don't see a clear way for the community to grow much beyond the initial list of committers. In a way, I'd rather see Whimsy g

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Re: [DISCUSS] Whimsy PMC

2015-04-28 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
Hi Rich, -Original Message- From: Rich Bowen Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 5:44 AM To: "general@incubator.apache.org" Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Whimsy PMC > > >On 04/27/2015 10:18 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) wrote: >> I’ll note that the only p

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Re: [DISCUSS] Whimsy PMC

2015-04-28 Thread Rich Bowen
On 04/27/2015 10:17 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: +1, that's what I was trying to convey. -Original Message- From: Greg Stein [mailto:gst...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 7:05 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Whimsy PMC On Mon, Apr 27, 2015

Re: [DISCUSS] Whimsy PMC

2015-04-28 Thread Rich Bowen
On 04/27/2015 10:18 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) wrote: I’ll note that the only person I see from infra that has been proposed in the current PMC is Jake Ferrel: * Acquia: Jake Farrell Someone also correct me in that I don’t think Jake is a paid infra contractor. In addition the way I see th

Re: [DISCUSS] Whimsy PMC

2015-04-28 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 9:25 PM, Rich Bowen wrote: > ...Our mission is "software for the public good". Whimsy is software for the > ASF's good. How does the public benefit from Whimsy?... It makes us more efficient. As a board member, Whimsy helps me spend less time on the boring mechanics of our