Re: Next steps for various proposals (mentor re-boot, pTLP, etc.)

Ted, doesn't that then suggest that the Board should do such an active task as well, since they "thus can spot common problems easily"? But they don't, possibly due to it doesn't scale. Their man on the field, the VP, is trusted to have a grip on the situation. Why doesn't IPMC trust that the mento

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

+1 Regards, Alan > On Jan 21, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > > [ ] +1 Recommend retiring NPanday poddling from the Incubator. > [ ] +/-0 Don't care, but... > [ ] -1 Don't recommend retiring NPanday poddling from the Incubator because > ...

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

+1 It's a cool idea, but the technology direction has gone a different way. On Wed Jan 21 2015 at 5:15:33 PM Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > This is a vote on recommending a retirement option > for the NPanday poddling. > > It comes on the hills of the general consensus of > the NPanday community and

Re: Next steps for various proposals (mentor re-boot, pTLP, etc.)

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > > Statements like shepherds dilute mentor responsibility are false. A > shepherd > > provides a mechanism for the IPMC to review the Podling/Mentor > relationship. > > This is something the IPMC needs to do when voting to graduate a > podl

RE: Next steps for various proposals (mentor re-boot, pTLP, etc.)

That is not what *I* do as a shepherd. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Marvin Humphrey Sent: ‎1/‎21/‎2015 7:10 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Next steps for various proposals (me

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

+1 Retirement isn't a failure. It is just one of several options. Not every projects needs to continue on original form, and not every project needs to be at Apache. On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > This is a vote on recommending a retirement option > for the NPanda

Re: Next steps for various proposals (mentor re-boot, pTLP, etc.)

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 3:58 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > We should not be focusing on who is/is not ticking a box on a report - it's > a red herring and therefore a distraction. > > We should be focusing on identifying and assisting podlings that are not in > receipt of adequate and a

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache AsterixDB Incubator

Thanks, Steve!! (We'd love to talk there, BTW; the challenge is doing so w/a teaching day-job. We'll see if we can find a volunteer who's not schedule-conflicted that week...!) On 1/21/15 2:44 AM, Steve Loughran wrote: +1 for the proposal: I've a lot of respect for the team...I met some of the

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RE: Next steps for various proposals (mentor re-boot, pTLP, etc.)

We should not be focusing on who is/is not ticking a box on a report - it's a red herring and therefore a distraction. We should be focusing on identifying and assisting podlings that are not in receipt of adequate and appropriate mentoring. There is nothing else of importance. Microsoft Ope

Re: Next steps for various proposals (mentor re-boot, pTLP, etc.)

On Jan 21, 2015, at 2:03 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: >> Perhaps there are one or two good ideas in the proposals, but change does >> not need to be as jarring. > > I hope that the Incubator can make the best of those opportunities. > >> For

Re: Next steps for various proposals (mentor re-boot, pTLP, etc.)

Benson, Alan- Starting a new project is not aggression; it's how we try things that should fail independently. I have no interest in participating, but if you believe that we should e.g., have a small, active, junior-varsity board responsible only for overseeing and guiding new projects: write a p

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

+1 to retire. The half full aspect is that it looks like people are doing something more useful with their time. Hadrian On 01/21/2015 05:19 PM, jan i wrote: +1 Even though I do not like to see a podling end like this, but life support has to be terminated at a point. rgds jan i On Wednesda

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

+1 Even though I do not like to see a podling end like this, but life support has to be terminated at a point. rgds jan i On Wednesday, January 21, 2015, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > This is a vote on recommending a retirement option > for the NPanday poddling. > > It comes on the hills of the gen

Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

+1 - Henry On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > This is a vote on recommending a retirement option > for the NPanday poddling. > > It comes on the hills of the general consensus of > the NPanday community and its mentors that > retirement is the only viable path at this poi

[VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling

This is a vote on recommending a retirement option for the NPanday poddling. It comes on the hills of the general consensus of the NPanday community and its mentors that retirement is the only viable path at this point: http://markmail.org/thread/litmh5wmwbclrk6n http://s.apache.org/Efn N

Re: Next steps for various proposals (mentor re-boot, pTLP, etc.)

On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > Perhaps there are one or two good ideas in the proposals, but change does > not need to be as jarring. I hope that the Incubator can make the best of those opportunities. > For example the IPMC ought to confirm with > mentors if they are stil

Re: do we need an ack after voting on a committer/ppmc member in an incubating project?

Hey Mark As all committers are being treated as a PPMC member for the project then the IPMC does need to be notified when a vote starts for a new committer/pmc member -Jake On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Mark Struberg wrote: > Hi Incubator. > > I might not be up to date, thus I better ask. >

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do we need an ack after voting on a committer/ppmc member in an incubating project?

Hi Incubator. I might not be up to date, thus I better ask. I am part of a podling which decided to not have a split committer/ppmc membership but have kind of 'flat' structure. We now voted for a contributor to become a committer (but also PPMC member that way). Does it need some special ACK/p

Re: Next steps for various proposals (mentor re-boot, pTLP, etc.)

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: > >> On Jan 21, 2015, at 3:39 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 4:03 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz >> wrote: >>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 9:38 PM, Chris Douglas wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 11:57 PM, Bertrand Delac

Re: Next steps for various proposals (mentor re-boot, pTLP, etc.)

> On Jan 21, 2015, at 3:39 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 4:03 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: >> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 9:38 PM, Chris Douglas wrote: >>> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 11:57 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz < >>> bdelacre...@apache.org > wrote: How is that dif

Re: Next steps for various proposals (mentor re-boot, pTLP, etc.)

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 4:03 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 9:38 PM, Chris Douglas wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 11:57 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz < >> bdelacre...@apache.org > wrote: >>> How is that different from pruning the current IPMC membership by >>> removing inac

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache AsterixDB Incubator

+1 for the proposal: I've a lot of respect for the team...I met some of them at a workshop in Germany a few years back along with the (then) Stratosphere project. I'm would volunteer as a mentor except I'm fairly overcommitted with other things (like the slider incubating project). If it does need

Re: Next steps for various proposals (mentor re-boot, pTLP, etc.)

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 9:38 PM, Chris Douglas wrote: > On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 11:57 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz < > bdelacre...@apache.org > wrote: >> How is that different from pruning the current IPMC membership by >> removing inactive members? > > Doing *that* would be straightforward. Take the s

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache AsterixDB Incubator

Thanks! Till > On Jan 20, 2015, at 11:06, Ted Dunning wrote: > > > Added my name to the mentor list. > > > >> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 8:37 AM, Mike Carey wrote: >> Wonderful; thanks, Ted!! >> Cheers, >> Mike >> >>> On 1/19/15 11:29 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: >>> >>> Chris just asked me under