Hi Dims,
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 11:09 PM, Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sorry...Need to take this off my chest before the official VOTE.
Thanks for this.
> ...Looking at the maven repo thread, begs the question. Do we really need
> an incubator?
>
> Isn't it just a IP Clearance S
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Bertrand Delacretaz commented on INCUBATOR-78:
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> If we all agree that http:
Please see below:
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 11:06 PM, Daniel Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Jul 7, 2008, at 6:59 PM, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
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>> Dan,
>>
>> Seriously, Can you please give me one concrete instance where a user
>> gave up because it was too hard?
>
> It falls into a few situat
On Jul 7, 2008, at 6:59 PM, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
Dan,
Seriously, Can you please give me one concrete instance where a user
gave up because it was too hard?
It falls into a few situations:
1) Without stuff in the main repo, you cannot do plugins that do
things similar to the "mvn jetty:
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Roy T. Fielding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Huh? The only difference I know of is the possible presence
> of external dependencies on LGPL code, which is not a legal
> question at all. All legal issues are satisfied before we
> even let the code be imported, let a
Roy,
I've created a JIRA here on the securing the artifacts request :
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-3659
Thanks,
dims
PS: Seriously why can't the mvn issue tracker be inhouse and not at codehaus? :(
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 8:06 PM, Roy T. Fielding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dims, I have
From what I have seen many of the incubator releases have been better
vetted than those
from graduated projects. So I don't buy the argument.
I also had to bite my tough on the maven thread.. I think it is mostly
BS to give Java an easy
route to publicity from inside incubator if no other cod
Roy,
I see what you are saying...
Do you agree that the intention is for the end user to pause for a
second to understand what he/she is using and understand that there
are some disclaimers etc that go along with a set of artifacts?
Yes. may be this is the wrong way to enforce that intention. Bu
On Jul 7, 2008, at 5:01 PM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
Apache isn't about 'community over code'. The code is just as
important - if not more so. For Incubator releases, the releases
aren't held to the same legal standard as releases from other PMCs.
Huh? The only difference I know of is the po
Dims, I have to disagree. The releases that we allow incubating
projects
to make, with three +1s and a majority approval, are full Apache
releases.
They have been officially approved by the foundation and we are 100%
responsible for their content. That's okay, because they also tend to
receiv
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Daniel Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So, my question is, if Apache is about "Community over code", why are we
> putting up barriers to getting the code if that is also creating barriers to
> building the community?
Apache isn't about 'community over code'. The
Hi,
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 12:09 AM, Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What incentives are there left to graduate?
I don't think we have a problem with projects not graduating once
they're ready. Yes, we've had to prod some projects to take that step,
but generally that hasn't been an
Jukka,
Yes, this is related. But i think folks have made up their mind about
the repo. this is about the role of the incubator itself which is
becoming over cumbersome and meaningless to many folks...
thanks,
dims
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Jukka Zitting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
Dan,
Seriously, Can you please give me one concrete instance where a user
gave up because it was too hard?
Again, Are u stating that removing this restriction would have reduced
the time taken to graduate from 2 years to 1 year?
We are *NOT* here to rubber stamp external code. Which is what we
Hi,
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 12:09 AM, Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sorry...Need to take this off my chest before the official VOTE.
Good, thanks! It's best to have all relevant points discussed before voting.
I'll wait at least a week after the last message on a related thread
be
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Craig Russell commented on INCUBATOR-78:
Robert Burrell Donkin opined:
> I think
[ Whoops, once again with the right subject line to wake up people with
mail filters. :-) ]
And the results:
+1:
Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (*)
Martijn Dashorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (*)
Niall Pemberton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (*)
Eelco Hillenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Henning Schmiedehausen <
And the results:
+1:
Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (*)
Martijn Dashorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (*)
Niall Pemberton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (*)
Eelco Hillenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Henning Schmiedehausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (*)
0:
none
-1:
none
(*) = Incubator PMC member.
Congratulations to
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Henning Schmiedehausen commented on INCUBATOR-78:
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I thought every podlin
On Jul 7, 2008, at 5:09 PM, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
Sorry...Need to take this off my chest before the official VOTE.
Looking at the maven repo thread, begs the question. Do we really need
an incubator?
Isn't it just a IP Clearance SVN now once people have their way with
no distinction at all
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 2:53 AM, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Perhaps on the site map itself, as in "to modify the template for this page,
> please see
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/site-author/stylesheets/sitemap/index.vsl.
sounds like a good idea. commit
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Robert Burrell Donkin commented on INCUBATOR-78:
Posting a reminder to ev
Sorry...Need to take this off my chest before the official VOTE.
Looking at the maven repo thread, begs the question. Do we really need
an incubator?
Isn't it just a IP Clearance SVN now once people have their way with
no distinction at all between incubator and non-incubator code?
What incentiv
On Jul 7, 2008, at 7:50 AM, Werner Punz wrote:
Hello everyone, since the discussion on the myfaces devs list has
pointed me towards here a legal question.
I developed in my working time which I can dedicate to opensource
software a significant library, licensed under ASF 2.0 license.
It is a
Ok thanks for the clarification,
btw. sorry for the typo in the topic.
Werner
Craig L Russell schrieb:
On Jul 7, 2008, at 9:02 AM, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 5:59 PM, Craig L Russell
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I agree that a software grant should be fine, but the oth
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Craig Russell commented on INCUBATOR-78:
If we all agree that http://wiki.apache.
On Jul 7, 2008, at 9:02 AM, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 5:59 PM, Craig L Russell
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I agree that a software grant should be fine, but the other
question is
whether the myfaces PMC wants to accept the contribution.
yes, they will. Already kind
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 5:59 PM, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I agree that a software grant should be fine, but the other question is
> whether the myfaces PMC wants to accept the contribution.
yes, they will. Already kind of an agreement about that on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-M
>
> The
I agree that a software grant should be fine, but the other question
is whether the myfaces PMC wants to accept the contribution.
The process at http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html
seems to fit the need here. There is a minimum of "e-paperwork" to do:
just requires the myfac
Hi,
I wouldn't call it "legal issue". It's more a question what to do with
the contribution,
since it was developed "offline".
I personally think that a software grant for this offer should be fine.
Main reason is, that the original author is already part of the
myfaces community.
-Matthias
On
Hello everyone, since the discussion on the myfaces devs list has
pointed me towards here a legal question.
I developed in my working time which I can dedicate to opensource
software a significant library, licensed under ASF 2.0 license.
It is an extension library to the myfaces tomahawk library
Before we (hopefully) enter the Apache Incubator we have completed pending
development tasks on Empire-db and Empire-Struts2-Extentsions which are now
available on SourceForge.net with release 2.0.2 (Empire-db) respectively
release 1.0.2 (Empire-Struts2-Extentsions).
The most significant impro
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Jukka Zitting commented on INCUBATOR-78:
+1 to Marvin. AFAIK it's in
https://svn
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