Hi,
On 3/19/07, J Aaron Farr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
"Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Apache Labs isn't appropriate for his effort, since it seems that he wants
> to build a new community, which will not be exclusively existing Committers.
Funny, because I would still recommen
On 3/18/07, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi George,
I'm not in a position to either approve or veto your release, but
without anyone in Apache signing your pgp key it looks bad.
Not really:
* Even if the key is signed by an ASF committer, or two (or ten),
there is no guarantee
On 3/19/07, J Aaron Farr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...Funny, because I would still recommend labs, at least for a
from-scratch effort...
Agreed: labs are a good way to build an initial group of interested
people, which can then work together on a proposal for the incubator.
Only ASF committe
[+1] Accept Tika as a new podling
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Should Incubator tarballs go in the normal place (and thus mirrors). + 1
(non-binding)
Should there be an Incubator maven repository. -1 (non-binding)
I do not believe that users will just use artifacts in ignorance of the the
respective projects' incubator status just because those artifacts hap
On 18/03/07, Jukka Zitting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[X] +1 Accept Tika as a new podling
[ ] -1 Do not accept the new podling (provide reason, please)
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"Jukka Zitting" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Please vote on the proposal that follows. The vote is open for the
> next 72 hours and only votes from the Incubator PMC are binding.
[X] +1 Accept Tika as a new podling
Good luck!
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jaaron
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"Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Davanum Srinivas wrote:
>> Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > I would like to start a new project in the incubator.
>> > It will be a from scratch effort, and I have some friends who are
>> > eager to help out.
>> please see http://labs.a
"Henri Yandell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Two parts to the vote:
>
> ONE: Should Incubator tarballs go in the normal place (and thus mirrors).
YES (+1)
Assuming "normal place" means something like dist/incubator not /dist/{podling}
> TWO: Should there be an Incubator maven repository.
+0
"Craig McClanahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Is everyone in ASF willing to be comfortable with the ASF stamp of
> approval on a project that might still be in the process of vetting
> code provenance, or still checking licenses, but chooses to do an
> incubating release anyway?
No, of course
"Davanum Srinivas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Niclas,
>
> Here the scenario is a project with all committers from one employer
> and regular releases.
Then they shouldn't have regular releases. I think Niclas's
suggestions on community requirements for releases are fine,
particularly for podl
"Davanum Srinivas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> #1) End user using an Incubator podling m2 artifact directly: End
> users need to specify our repo in their pom.xml explicity. this is a
> conscious decision.
>
> #2) End user using a regular Apache project that depends on incubator
> podling artifa
"Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Jukka Zitting wrote:
>> Agreed. Once a release is out the only restrictions we place on it's
>> use and distribution should be the ASLv2.
>
> The Apache License does not give ASF projects carte blanche to
> ignore ASF policy.
But Jukka is right in t
And zero incentive to ever graduate. The point is that we've taken
this position because an incubating project ISN'T permitted to operate
or publicize as an ASF Project.
It's accepted, but the podling is accepted provisionally. Abuse of the
Apache name results in ejection of the podling.
We see
+1 (non-binding) - alignment with existing standards (such as Dublin Core,
etc) will be important...
On 3/18/07, Jukka Zitting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,
I would like to call the Incubator PMC to vote to incubate the
proposed Tika project. I posted the proposal draft for review a while
ago
Excellent! Thanks to everyone for helping out.
I will go ahead and issue a release vote request without requiring my PGP
key signed -- for this release.
I work in Lexington (for IBM/Rational) Yoav or anyone close by and don't
mind meeting up to sign my PGP key, please contact me at [EMAIL PROTEC
Yoav Shapira wrote:
> I live in the Boston area
FWIW, I am here (downtown) until Thursday.
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Yoav, you are a mensch.
Craig
On Mar 18, 2007, at 6:11 PM, Yoav Shapira wrote:
Hi,
George: +1 (binding) to you releasing right away.
I live in the Boston area and am always available to meet up, say hi,
and sign your PGP key if you so desire.
Yoav
On 3/18/07, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTEC
Am here too :) unfortunately will be travelling mon/tue.
-- dims
On 3/18/07, Yoav Shapira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,
George: +1 (binding) to you releasing right away.
I live in the Boston area and am always available to meet up, say hi,
and sign your PGP key if you so desire.
Yoav
On 3/
Hi,
George: +1 (binding) to you releasing right away.
I live in the Boston area and am always available to meet up, say hi,
and sign your PGP key if you so desire.
Yoav
On 3/18/07, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi George,
I'm not in a position to either approve or veto your rele
I'll chime in here to lend some support to George and echo what was
said earlier on this thread... having others sign your key is not a
necessity for making a release (at least within any policies I've
seen). Is there such a policy? If not, let's let George move on
with the next steps in
Hi George,
I'm not in a position to either approve or veto your release, but
without anyone in Apache signing your pgp key it looks bad.
You might try contacting the half-dozen Apache folks in Boston
directly by email, or see if anyone on this incubator list is willing
to sign your key. B
Thanks Craig and all.
I don't know anyone in person on the Apache web and unfortunately, I am not
attending ApacheCons to meet other folks. So what are my options? The
release is ready for a vote and yet I don't know how to make it happen with
this issue outstanding!!
Erik Hatcher and Doug Cutt
Hi George,
It would be best if someone already in the Apache web of trust you
know personally, or who can meet you in person and verify your
bonafides would volunteer to sign your key. There are half a dozen
people in the Mass Bay Area according to the map below [1].
By the way, there is
Here's my non-binding +1:
[ X ] +1 Accept Tika as a new podling
-Marshall Schor
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Frank W. Zammetti wrote:
Hello. I have a question about getting an outside project into the
incubator... I am the project lead for the DataVision project
(http://datavision.sourceforge.net), an open-source report writing
tool... it may or may not actually be used by the OfBiz project (there
s
Hello. I have a question about getting an outside project into the
incubator... I am the project lead for the DataVision project
(http://datavision.sourceforge.net), an open-source report writing
tool... it may or may not actually be used by the OfBiz project (there
seems to be a bit of a ques
+1
On 3/18/07, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 3/16/07, Jeremy Boynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mar 15, 2007, at 5:07 PM, Jeremy Boynes wrote:
>
> > On Mar 15, 2007, at 3:49 PM, robert burrell donkin wrote:
> >
> >> On 3/13/07, Jeremy Boynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
On 3/16/07, Jeremy Boynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Mar 15, 2007, at 5:07 PM, Jeremy Boynes wrote:
> On Mar 15, 2007, at 3:49 PM, robert burrell donkin wrote:
>
>> On 3/13/07, Jeremy Boynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> The Tuscany community recently voted to release version 1.0-
>>> incuba
On Mar 18, 2007, at 4:08 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
Irregardless of that, the IPMC could stipulate that releases are
"final
stepping stones" towards graduation, and require an active and diverse
community to allow for releases. After all, it is the Incubator
that does the
release (legally)
non-binding +1 from me.
On 18.03.2007 10:51:37 Jukka Zitting wrote:
> [ ] +1 Accept Tika as a new podling
> [ ] -1 Do not accept the new podling (provide reason, please)
> Instead of implementing its own document parsers, Tika will use existing
> parser libraries like Jakarta POI [1] and PDFBox
On Sunday 18 March 2007 17:51, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> [ ] +1 Accept Tika as a new podling
> [ ] -1 Do not accept the new podling (provide reason, please)
+1
Cheers
Niclas Hedhman
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On 3/18/07, Jukka Zitting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[ X ] +1 Accept Tika as a new podling
Good luck,
Yoav
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On 3/18/07, Gwyn Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The critical bit is getting the key fingerprint in a way where the
provider's identity can be verified...
Somewhat mitigated by listing your fingerprint here [1]. So having
your key on a couple of the prominent key servers and listing the
fi
On Sunday 18 March 2007 21:16, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> I don't think this would be a good idea to not allow one podling
> to release anything.
See my disclaimer, that I think it is reasonable to allow 'limited' releases.
Point is to deter the 'coziness' and force graduation.
Cheers
Niclas
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On Sunday 18 March 2007 21:35, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> > Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I would like to start a new project in the incubator.
> > > It will be a from scratch effort, and I have some friends who are
> > > eager to help out.
> >
> > please s
+1 Accept Tika as a new podling
On 3/18/07, Jukka Zitting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,
I would like to call the Incubator PMC to vote to incubate the
proposed Tika project. I posted the proposal draft for review a while
ago, and the final proposal text is included below. The only changes
in t
Serves me right :) i should read the whole email before replying.
thanks,
dims
On 3/18/07, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I would like to start a new project in the incubator.
> > It will be a from scratch effor
Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I would like to start a new project in the incubator.
> > It will be a from scratch effort, and I have some friends who are
> > eager to help out.
> please see http://labs.apache.org/
Apache Labs isn't appropriate for his effo
please see http://labs.apache.org/
On 3/18/07, Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,
I would like to start a new project in the incubator.
Technically speaking, there will not be any initial codebase nor any initial
committers beyond myself. It will be a from scratch effort, and I ha
I don't think this would be a good idea to not allow one podling
to release anything.
Let me state my thoughts: the goal of a podling is to build
a lively and heterogeneous community to be able to graduate.
Usually, there is one or more company behind a project. If there
are more than one company,
Hi,
I would like to start a new project in the incubator.
Technically speaking, there will not be any initial codebase nor any initial
committers beyond myself. It will be a from scratch effort, and I have some
friends who are eager to help out.
The plan is;
1. Start incubation with myself o
On Saturday 17 March 2007 11:40, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> One significant difference between ASF projects and those in the Incubator
> is that the ASF projects are communities that have already demonstrated
> their ability to operate under ASF policy *and* sustain a development
> community. Once
On Saturday 17 March 2007 21:54, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> On 3/17/07, Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > No community -> no releases ??
> Here the scenario is a project with all committers from one employer
> and regular releases.
Sorry, I don't fully follow. I thought you were speaki
Hi,
I would like to call the Incubator PMC to vote to incubate the
proposed Tika project. I posted the proposal draft for review a while
ago, and the final proposal text is included below. The only changes
in the proposal text are the addition of Bertrand Delacretaz as the
third mentor and markin
Hi,
On 3/16/07, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
ONE: Should Incubator tarballs go in the normal place (and thus mirrors).
+1
TWO: Should there be an Incubator maven repository.
-1
Rationale
ONE: Legally there should be no difference between a TLP and an
Incubating release. Addit
It's not so much someone else signing it, but rather having a way of
proving that a particular person owns a particular key. Here, for
instance, how do we know that it's really you that owns the key?
See http://www.rubin.ch/pgp/weboftrust.en.html and
http://people.apache.org/~henkp/trust/ but it
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