Re: Personal attacks and respect

2004-07-08 Thread Steven Noels
On 09 Jul 2004, at 03:44, David Blevins wrote: I really don't want to get caught in the cross-fire, but...you could call each other up and talk/yell this out on the phone and get the argument over quickly. +1, but some people just *need* the audience, alas. ;-) (now i'm really gone) -- Steven Noel

Re: Personal attacks and respect

2004-07-08 Thread David Blevins
On Fri, Jul 09, 2004 at 12:09:13AM +0200, Stephen McConnell wrote: > Sander Striker wrote: > > >>From: Stephen McConnell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Sorry but Nicola Ken is not qualified. I'm sorry Nicola but > >>you instigated this and only you can fix it. > > > > > >Stephen, saying that som

proposal: modify incubation application process to require a reference to the code itself

2004-07-08 Thread Brian Behlendorf
In walking through the incubation documents (helping a couple of groups who have asked me about how to do this) it struck me that there was no requirement that the proposal provide a link to download and evaluate the code around which a project is being proposed - in fact it appears the code it

RE: Donation of jlibtool?

2004-07-08 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> I just faxed the software grant to Jim. I'll commit the > clearance form with appropriate dates into the incubator > repository now. > Anything else we need to do? Should we wait to commit the > code in question until Jim acknowledges the grant? You are an ASF Officer. If you, in that capaci

RE: Donation of jlibtool?

2004-07-08 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
--On Wednesday, July 7, 2004 12:57 AM -0400 "Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Too bad. ;-) Someone from every PMC should. As of now, all PMC Chairs do. That includes you. Not for much longer. ;-) Except that the PMC wanting to import the IP, in this case the APR PMC, is the one res

RE: Personal attacks and respect

2004-07-08 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> > I've suggested to Nicola Ken that he start work on a web page to > > cover ideals, techniques and scenarios [regarding communication > > skills and other useful community building techniques.] > > I figure your suggestion and the assumedly planned work can't have > anything to do with what is h

Re: Personal attacks and respect

2004-07-08 Thread Stephen McConnell
Sander Striker wrote: From: Stephen McConnell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 8:58 PM Noel J. Bergman wrote: I'm quite confident that a good portion of the inhabitants of this list doesn't care much about who is going to "win" this flamefest. +1 There is a sense in whic

RE: Personal attacks and respect

2004-07-08 Thread Sander Striker
> From: Stephen McConnell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 8:58 PM > Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > >>I'm quite confident that a good portion of the inhabitants of this > >>list doesn't care much about who is going to "win" > >>this flamefest. > > > > > > +1 > > > > Ther

Re: Personal attacks and respect

2004-07-08 Thread Steven Noels
On 08 Jul 2004, at 20:48, Noel J. Bergman wrote: I'm quite confident that a good portion of the inhabitants of this list doesn't care much about who is going to "win" this flamefest. +1 There is a sense in which a general discussion on community building techniques and communication skills is worth

Re: Personal attacks and respect

2004-07-08 Thread Stephen McConnell
Noel J. Bergman wrote: I've suggested to Nicola Ken that he start work on a web page to cover ideals, techniques and scenarios [related to community building and conversation skills] -1 Sorry but Nicola Ken is not qualified. Your opinion is noted, but that is not your call to make. I asked him i

RE: Personal attacks and respect

2004-07-08 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> I've suggested to Nicola Ken that he start work on a web page > to cover ideals, techniques and scenarios [related to community > building and conversation skills] > -1 > Sorry but Nicola Ken is not qualified. Your opinion is noted, but that is not your call to make. I asked him if he would vo

Re: Personal attacks and respect

2004-07-08 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
This is my last mail regarding Stephen McConnell. His mails are now automatically deleted from my inbox. I do not have time for such "debates" (?)with no visible content. Andreas - Original Message - From: "Stephen McConnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, Jul

Re: Personal attacks and respect

2004-07-08 Thread Stephen McConnell
Noel J. Bergman wrote: I'm quite confident that a good portion of the inhabitants of this list doesn't care much about who is going to "win" this flamefest. +1 There is a sense in which a general discussion on community building techniques and communication skills is worthwhile. I've suggested to

RE: Personal attacks and respect

2004-07-08 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> I'm quite confident that a good portion of the inhabitants > of this list doesn't care much about who is going to "win" > this flamefest. +1 There is a sense in which a general discussion on community building techniques and communication skills is worthwhile. I've suggested to Nicola Ken that

Re: Personal attacks and respect

2004-07-08 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
Could you please stop lowering the signal-to-noise ratio of this mailing list? Thanks, Andreas - Original Message - From: "Stephen McConnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 6:38 PM Subject: Re: Personal attacks and respect [...] > I would cal

Re: Personal attacks and respect

2004-07-08 Thread Steven Noels
On 08 Jul 2004, at 18:38, Stephen McConnell wrote: Brian McCallister wrote: As an innocent bystander of the flamewar that spawned this email: Nicola commented on some technical changes, it started deteriorating into shed painting, Nicola posted an email on de-escalating conflict in technical di

Re: Personal attacks and respect

2004-07-08 Thread Stephen McConnell
Brian McCallister wrote: As an innocent bystander of the flamewar that spawned this email: Nicola commented on some technical changes, it started deteriorating into shed painting, Nicola posted an email on de-escalating conflict in technical discussions, then Stephen attacked Nicola directly fo

Re: Personal attacks and respect

2004-07-08 Thread Brian McCallister
As an innocent bystander of the flamewar that spawned this email: Nicola commented on some technical changes, it started deteriorating into shed painting, Nicola posted an email on de-escalating conflict in technical discussions, then Stephen attacked Nicola directly for some as-yet-unspecifi

Re: Personal attacks and respect

2004-07-08 Thread Stephen McConnell
Nicola: If you have a problem with my annoyance at your presumption to preach - then present it here away from any particular project. Stephen. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PRO

Re: resource usage

2004-07-08 Thread Leo Simons
wrong list! Sorry! - Leo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

resource usage

2004-07-08 Thread Leo Simons
Hi gang! Noel J. Bergman wrote: I would also like the GUMP folks to take a close look at their needs. Specifically, I have just made arrangements that they ought to be able to get a copy of VMware GX for brutus. That will allow them to clone system configurations from a master disk image (virtual