Re: [Gen-art] [tsvwg] Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-tsvwg-port-use-06.txt

2014-12-19 Thread Joe Touch
Hi, Dan, Thank you for this review. I'm confident both comments can be clarified in a minor revision. However, I did have a question about the end at "Nits/editorial comments:" -- was there additional feedback intended there, or was this section intended to be empty? Thanks, Joe On 12/15/2014

Re: [Gen-art] Review of draft-ietf-6man-rfc1981bis-04

2017-02-15 Thread Joe Touch
Hi, Ole, On 2/14/2017 10:33 AM, otr...@employees.org wrote: >> *If* you care about packet loss, then your only option is to probe the path >> with with >> synthetic data that exactly mimics the live data, or not to probe at all and >> live >> with the 1280. As I said 1280 is pretty close to 14

Re: [Gen-art] Review of draft-ietf-6man-rfc1981bis-04

2017-02-15 Thread Joe Touch
Brian (et al.), On 2/10/2017 11:45 AM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: >> practice the >> Internet breaks the mechanism. However it breaks it is a way that seems >> disruptive to some user traffic. The document is really guidance >> one how hosts might use ICMP for optimization, and arguable need >> no

Re: [Gen-art] Review of draft-ietf-6man-rfc1981bis-04

2017-02-15 Thread Joe Touch
Hi, Brian, On 2/15/2017 1:26 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > On 16/02/2017 10:12, Joe Touch wrote: >> Brian (et al.), >> >> >> On 2/10/2017 11:45 AM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: >>>> practice the >>>> Internet breaks the mechanism. However it br

Re: [Gen-art] Review of draft-ietf-6man-rfc1981bis-04

2017-02-16 Thread Joe Touch
On 2/16/2017 7:59 AM, Stewart Bryant wrote: > > > On 14/02/2017 23:00, Templin, Fred L wrote: >> Unless there is operational assurance of >> some size X>1280, however, tunnels have to use fragmentation to >> guarantee that - at a minimum - packets up to 1280 will get through. > > In that case the

Re: [Gen-art] Review of draft-ietf-6man-rfc1981bis-04

2017-02-16 Thread Joe Touch
On 2/16/2017 11:59 AM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > On 17/02/2017 04:59, Stewart Bryant wrote: >> >> On 14/02/2017 23:00, Templin, Fred L wrote: >>> Unless there is operational assurance of >>> some size X>1280, however, tunnels have to use fragmentation to >>> guarantee that - at a minimum - packe

Re: [Gen-art] Review of draft-ietf-6man-rfc1981bis-04

2017-02-16 Thread Joe Touch
On 2/16/2017 1:29 PM, Stewart Bryant wrote: > > > On 16/02/2017 18:49, Joe Touch wrote: >> >> On 2/16/2017 7:59 AM, Stewart Bryant wrote: >>> >>> On 14/02/2017 23:00, Templin, Fred L wrote: >>>> Unless there is operational assurance of

Re: [Gen-art] Genart telechat review of draft-ietf-6man-rfc1981bis-06

2017-04-25 Thread Joe Touch
Hi, Stewart, On 4/24/2017 10:12 AM, Stewart Bryant wrote: > Minor issues: > > A node MUST NOT reduce its estimate of the Path MTU below the IPv6 > minimum link MTU. > > SB> I missed this last time. > SB> > SB> Presumably you mean "A node MUST NOT reduce its estimate of the > SB> Path MTU below

Re: [Gen-art] Genart telechat review of draft-ietf-6man-rfc1981bis-06

2017-04-26 Thread Joe Touch
Hi, Stewart, On 4/26/2017 1:48 AM, Stewart Bryant wrote: > > > On 25/04/2017 19:26, Joe Touch wrote: >> Hi, Stewart, >> >> ... >> >>> SB> >>> SB> Otherwise I would have thought that this was entirely a matter >>> SB> for the

Re: [Gen-art] Genart telechat review of draft-ietf-6man-rfc1981bis-06

2017-04-26 Thread Joe Touch
Hi, Fred, On 4/26/2017 1:08 PM, Fred Baker wrote: >> Individual packets and fragments can be smaller than the MTU, of course. >> Nothing forces fragments to push up against any MTU limit at all. But I >> would not describe that has a host changing its path MTU; it's just >> sending packets. > I d

Re: [Gen-art] Genart telechat review of draft-ietf-6man-rfc1981bis-06

2017-04-26 Thread Joe Touch
On 4/26/2017 1:30 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: >>> Individual packets and fragments can be smaller than the MTU, of course. >>> Nothing forces fragments to push up against any MTU limit at all. But I >>> would not describe that has a host changing its path MTU; it's just >>> sending packets. >> I

Re: [Gen-art] Genart telechat review of draft-ietf-6man-rfc1981bis-06

2017-04-27 Thread Joe Touch
On 4/27/2017 5:36 AM, Stewart Bryant wrote: > ... > So this seems to me to be an argument of principle vs pragmatism, and > in general pragmatism has served the Internet well so far. > > I think pragmatism is what Fred and Brian arguing for. It is certainly > the general approach that I support.

Re: [Gen-art] Genart telechat review of draft-ietf-6man-rfc1981bis-06

2017-05-05 Thread Joe Touch
Hi, Bob, AOK. Thanks, Joe On 5/5/2017 5:32 AM, Bob Hinden wrote: >> On Apr 25, 2017, at 9:26 PM, Joe Touch wrote: >> >> Hi, Stewart, >> >> >> On 4/24/2017 10:12 AM, Stewart Bryant wrote: >>> Minor issues: >>> >>> A node MUST NOT

Re: [Gen-art] [Softwires] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-softwire-mesh-multicast-22

2018-09-16 Thread Joe Touch
Hi, Brian, See comments below… Joe > On Sep 15, 2018, at 3:32 PM, Brian E Carpenter > wrote: > > Dear 杨术, > > I have added Joe Touch in Cc because one point below overlaps > with his TSVART review. > On 2018-09-16 06:41, 杨术 wrote: >> Dear Brian, >> >

Re: [Gen-art] [Softwires] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-softwire-mesh-multicast-22

2018-09-16 Thread Joe Touch
Hi, Brian, > On Sep 16, 2018, at 1:44 PM, Brian E Carpenter > wrote: > > Hi Joe, > On 2018-09-17 05:15, Joe Touch wrote: >> Hi, Brian, >> >> See comments below… >> >> Joe >> >>> On Sep 15, 2018, at 3:32 PM, Brian E Carpenter >

Re: [Gen-art] [Softwires] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-softwire-mesh-multicast-22

2018-09-16 Thread Joe Touch
Hi, Brian, On 9/16/2018 3:59 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: >>> So should >>> the AFBR include a frag header just in case? >> That won’t help. The frag header would be generated at the tunnel ingress >> and has to be unique there (which has no relation to a frag header of the >> inner packet, if

Re: [Gen-art] Fwd: [Gen-ART] review of draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-auth-opt-10.txt

2010-03-10 Thread Joe Touch
Hi, all, Including both TSV ADs, the WG chairs, and the authors in this response. See below. PS - it would be useful to include the document authors in Gen-ART posts; we received this message indirectly by the IESG. Joe > Original Message > Subject: [Gen-art] [Gen-ART] review

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART LC Review of draft-ietf-mptcp-api-05

2012-08-17 Thread Joe Touch
On 8/13/2012 7:14 AM, philip.eard...@bt.com wrote: Ben, Thanks for your review. The right status isn't clear-cut (I think), but when we (Chairs & Wes) discussed it, Info seemed best * mainly because precedent seems to be that API docs are informational, for example socket API extensions for

Re: [Gen-art] [Last-Call] [EXTERNAL] Re: Genart last call review of draft-ietf-dtn-bpbis-17

2019-11-08 Thread Joe Touch
Unix time != the Posix time API. One is a time scale; the other is the interface to obtain potentially many different time scales. I dove into these issues here: draft-touch-time Joe > On Nov 8, 2019, at 7:34 AM, Burleigh, Scott C (US 312B) > wrote: > > I disagree. From Wikipedia: > > Uni

Re: [Gen-art] [Last-Call] [EXTERNAL] Re: Genart last call review of draft-ietf-dtn-bpbis-17

2019-11-08 Thread Joe Touch
The draft is more about time scales than protocols used to sync them. NTP is mentioned largely in its use of UTC. PTP supports a variety of time scales so it doesn’t add much to the discussion. Joe > On Nov 8, 2019, at 8:24 AM, Stewart Bryant wrote: > > > >> On 8 Nov 2

[Gen-art] Fwd: CALL to revoke last call: Re: [tsvwg] Request for working group feedback on draft-kuehlewind-system-ports (6th March, 2020)

2020-02-17 Thread Joe Touch
kuehlewind-system-ports (6th March, 2020) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2020 15:06:40 -0800 From: Joe Touch To: Gorry Fairhurst , ts...@ietf.org I object on process grounds at a minimum and call for its "last calls" to be revoked by the sponsoring AD and WG chair as follows: 1) this do