Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-gellens-lost-validation-05

2020-03-08 Thread Randall Gellens
I'd be happy to delete all the explanatory and background text, and just point to the NENA document. The text was added by request. --Randall On 8 Mar 2020, at 13:28, Pete Resnick wrote: Hi Randy, We probably at some core level disagree about whether "informational text that explains how i

Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-gellens-lost-validation-05

2020-03-08 Thread Pete Resnick
Hi Randy, We probably at some core level disagree about whether "informational text that explains how it is expected to be used" is in-and-of-itself "normative"; I think in IETF documents, that's really all that it means. But that might be moot: If the NENA document is going to be updated to

Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-gellens-lost-validation-05

2020-03-08 Thread Randall Gellens
Hi Pete, The document adds a tag. It also contains informational text that explains how it is expected to be used. There isn't any normative text. Once the tag is defined, then NENA i3 will be updated to refer to it, and to mandate how NENA-compliant clients and servers use it. But a non-

Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-gellens-lost-validation-05

2020-03-08 Thread Pete Resnick
Hi Randy, Section 3 of the document defines the operations that one must perform in order to use the tag. It explains how to go beyond what 5222 provides by defining which order to look up the servers and what to do depending on the results received. It changes the discovery procedure defined

Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-gellens-lost-validation-05

2020-03-08 Thread Randall Gellens
Hi Pete, I don't see this as a new protocol. It is a new service tag that is optional to use. Not using it won't break anything that wouldn't be broken without the tag being defined. Using it is an optimization. I see the draft as only adding a new tag, not defining a new protocol. --Ran

Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-gellens-lost-validation-05

2020-03-07 Thread Barry Leiba
Thanks, Pete, for a very helpful review. Barry On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 11:52 AM Pete Resnick via Datatracker < nore...@ietf.org> wrote: > Reviewer: Pete Resnick > Review result: Not Ready > > I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area > Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all I