description of differences in hierarchical netlists
can be found at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netlist
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Paul Tan
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From: Levente Kovacs
To: geda-u...@seul.org
Sent: Sun, Apr 11, 2010 4:04 am
Subject: gEDA-user: gnetlist
Hi,
I can't fin
utes among all
backends.
Documentations of attributes usage for any particular backend
netlister are in the Netlister section of:
http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:documentation
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From: Felipe De la Puente Christen
To: gEDA user mailing list
Sent
so like to hear from other GTK+ developers/
Application-developers/users on their usages of GtkTearOffMenuItem,
so that all of us can get a better understanding of what is at stake
there.
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If you have time, could you please explain a bit about
how TearOffMenu "prevent proper keyboard operation" ?
Is that something inherent to TearOffMenu in general or
is it something specific to an application usage of
TearOffMenuItem ?
pt
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From: timecop
To: gEDA user m
ime to do it yet.
I am
hoping someone will beat me to it.
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From: John Doty
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Sent: Fri, Aug 13, 2010 5:09 pm
Subject: Re: gEDA-user: wishful UI
On Aug 13, 2010, at 5:49 PM, Stefan Salewski wrote:
On Fri, 2010-08-1
onable
way to express multiple net properties.
Could be. If absolutely necessary, I might expose some forms of parsed
NETLIST's nid or even the OBJECT's sid, with appropriate prefix, to
the Gnetlist generic backend.
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Hi Andrew Poelstra,
On Aug 14, 2010; 10:34am, Andrew Poelstra wrote:
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 03:17:42AM -0400, Paul Tan wrote:
>> ...In fact, I would like to see that gEDA can process ANY attributes
>> attached to a net in similar fashion as it process ANY attributes
>> at
Gnetlist frontend C code (except plug-in), then
we are safe.
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om "Uxx_yy" when outputing your
PCB's "PACKAGE_refdes" Uxx.
If this solution is not what you want, there
are others I can suggest. Yes, ofcourse, you
can fix it at the Gnetlist frontend, in which
case, that fix should not affect other backends
which require unique "refdes" for symbol instance.
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ere are other Gnetlist frontend
solutions which have less impact on memory
footprint and performance, if you can get
Ales to approve it, I am for it. Then you
need to find out who is going to implement it.
Moreover, to fix the PCB's netlist whatever
problem, who is going to implement all the
changes needed in PCB backends?
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quot; to your local
"/path/to/scheme", or make link to those
files from your local "/path/to/scheme"
directory.
Hope the above helps.
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m filename does
not contain spaces. Otherwise, try:
(print-command (string-append "lp -d PDF -t \""
(basename (get-selected-filename)) "\"")
Hope it helps.
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Hi Kai-Martin Knaak,
oops, correction, missing a ")" for the last Scheme code example.
(print-command (string-append "lp -d PDF -t \""
(basename (get-selected-filename)) "\""))
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From: Kai-Martin
/
The above change made the (get_selected_filename) work for me.
Hope it helps.
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dded */
return return_value;/*
Changed */
}
/*
= */
The above change made the (get_selected_filename) work for me.
Hope it helps.
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Paul Tan
ked
Verilog symbol file and8-1.sym file as an example:
pinnumber=OUT
pinnumber=IN0
.
pinnumber=IN7
(please refer to the gEDA document "README.verilog" file or
the gEDA wiki).
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w, it should work.
2) To prevent symbol library problem down the road, try to
follow John Doty advice:
http://archives.seul.org/geda/user/Nov-2010/msg00425.html
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http://www
The GTK tearoff menu bug was described in :
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=620984
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=603717
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=618237
That bug is still on Matthias Clasen's team to-fix list:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?compo
Hi All,
I also think Database approach is the right idea. Most commercial EDA
tools
use that approach. I hope we can try to make the gEDA DB interface
as generic as possible, so that it can accommodate VLSI design cell
librarie as well as PCB component libs.
Best Regards,
Paul Tan
Hi,
In some commercial VLSI EDA tools, the native symbol attributes
(which comes from symbol library) are really just a place holder
for viewing (location to update attributes from the external DB
library).
Not all attributes are used by the schematic, in reality, most
attributes
are used by oth
Hi Steve,
I am not using that feature currently, but its a nice feature and I
might
use the post-backend feature in the future.
Best Regards,
Paul Tan
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From: Steve Meier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: gEDA user mailing list
Sent: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 12:52 pm
Subject: gED
Hi All,
My question is: Do any of these code changes
"eliminate gnetlist post backend option" ?
Best Regards,
Paul Tan
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From: Steve Meier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: gEDA user mailing list
Sent: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 6:13 pm
Subject: Re: gEDA-user: gnetlist
Hi Peter C,
Have you tried "(define (xxx " instead of "(define xxx" and/or
setting flag indication?
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Paul Tan
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From: Peter Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: gEDA user mailing list
Sent: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 5:55 pm
Subject: Re: g
Hi Peter C,
"(define (xxx" will delay evaluation until
some procedure call it.
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Paul Tan
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From: Peter Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: gEDA user mailing list
Sent: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 7:32 pm
Subject: Re: gEDA-user: gnetlist l and m options
Hi Steve,
Nothing may be gained from it. However,
since it is a feature of gnetlist, if we eliminate
it, it would be helpful if it is clearly posted
in gEDA-dev forum so that everyone knows
about it.
Best Regards,
Paul Tan
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From: Steve Meier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&
Hi Ales,
Thanks for the information. I see the situation
now. I sincerely hope Steve would plan to
merge back in the near future.
Best Regards,
Paul Tan
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From: Ales Hvezda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: gEDA user mailing list
Sent: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 7:57 pm
Subject: Re
as late as u want.
Hope that would help.
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Paul Tan
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From: Peter Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: gEDA user mailing list
Sent: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 7:47 pm
Subject: Re: gEDA-user: gnetlist l and m options
On Fri, 2008-01-04 at 22:37 -0500, Paul Tan wro
the process, I guess.
Thanks for the response.
Best Regards,
Paul Tan
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From: Steve Meier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: gEDA user mailing list
Sent: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 8:41 pm
Subject: Re: gEDA-user: gnetlist l and m options
Maybe. But not as a series of small patches. H
ticular feature and if so why and how. This isn't a
political question it is a functional question. You arn't so ok.
Thanks,
Steve Meier
Paul Tan wrote:
> Hi Steve,
>
> There are very good reasons for a steady gEDA
> developement process. It gives any new idea
> a chance
lifton wrote:
> On Sat, 2008-01-05 at 02:06 -0500, Paul Tan wrote:
>
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>> My responses are never meant to be political,
>> I am sorry if they went across to you that way.
>>
>> There is nothing political about asking if the
>> codes chan
user who has no time to look into the gEDA core
codes. But I, as both a gEDA developer and a gEDA user,
I am sure, in time, lots of advance VLSI and Mix_signal
design feaures will easily be implemented and documented
for the general gEDA users.
Best Regards,
Paul Tan
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, including
voicing my objects to any codes addition/modifications
which might turn gEDA/gaf into "not suitable for VLSI design"
state. I am sure most of us share the same goal.
Best Regards,
Paul Tan
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From: Peter Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: gEDA u
pting facility
is a very important feature in advance EDA tool
to allow user scripts, python, Perl, Ruby, sh, etc
to interact with gEDA/gaf/gschem/gnetlist
There are a lot more things to mention, it is
difficult to describe them all. In time, I will
post them as the subjects arise.
Best Regards,
get discouraged, some of the features
may already exist in basic ways, but we will improve
on them. In time, you will see.
User inputs are very welcome.
Best Regards,
Paul Tan
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From: a r <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: gEDA user mailing list
Sent: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 1
Hi kmk,
Try this:
(define gedasymbols "/home/kmk/lilalaser/geda/")
(component-library (string-append gedasymbols "/analog"))
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Paul Tan
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From: Kai-Martin Knaak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sat, 19 Jan 2008
Hi kmk,
oops, forgot u have an extra "/", try this
(define gedasymbols "/home/kmk/lilalaser/geda/")
(component-library (string-append gedasymbols "analog"))
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Sent: S
able flat hierarchy:
(hierarchy-traversal "disable")
This is how the gnet_hier_verilog.sh in gEDA utiliity use it to
traverse the hierarchy. if you have install gEDA utility pacakge,
gnet_hier_verilog.sh should normally be in /usr/bin/.
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Paul Tan
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so that the RFCs which have global significance
are clearly visible to everyone. This is also a good way to
avoid unintended mistakes.
Best Regards,
Paul Tan
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From: Peter Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: geda-user <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 1:49 p
ng in it that
would affect
Verilog/VHDL netlisters. I really should spend time reading as many
messages
as I can.
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Paul Tan
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From: Ales Hvezda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: gEDA user mailing list
Sent: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 3:30 pm
Subject: Re: gEDA-user:
uot;gwave" your preferred Waveform viewer for GnuCap?
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Paul Tan
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From: al davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; geda-user@moria.seul.org
Sent: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 4:43 pm
Subject: gEDA-user: gnucap - oscillator example
As part of gnucap documen
populate are the
examples folders and a README file to explain
to the users the flow.
It would save me time if you already have in
mind certain tools flow in shell script form,even if
it is specific to an example.
Best Regards,
Paul Tan
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From: al davis <[EMAIL PROTEC
CosmosLE results in LVS- and DRCcorrect cell
and macro layouts."
I think "Schematic Driven" is the way to go.
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Paul Tan
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From: al davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 10:08 am
Subject: Re: gEDA-user:
Correction:
I think "Schematic Driven" is a way to go.
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Paul Tan
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From: Paul Tan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: geda-user@moria.seul.org
Sent: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 8:05 pm
Subject: Re: gEDA-user: gnucap - oscillator example
On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 13
OK? Like a repeat last Macro?
Dan, have you got a chance to try the
"Generic Gschem Dynamic Scripting Tools Menus" package I posted
http://archives.seul.org/geda/dev/Jul-2008/msg00012.html ?
If you did, any thoughts and suggestions?
Best Regards,
Paul Tan
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en you run gnetlist. Gschem is not affected,
and you can still use the "source=" attribute in your
schematic, and can still navigate up/down your hierarchy
in Gschem.
Hope this helps.
Best Regards,
Paul Tan
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From: John Doty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: gEDA user m
erarchy, do:
gnetlist -g x -O hier_trav_disabled -o foo.out foo.sch
When you want to netlist with flat hierachy, just do the usual:
gnetlist -g x -o foo.out foo.sch
Again, the above will not affect Gschem hierarchy navigation.
Best Regards,
Paul Tan
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John Griessen wrote:
> Is the output sets of per page netlists in this case?
When you invoke:
(hierarchy-traversal "disabled")
you can still netlist multi-pages with:
gnetlist -g -o foo.out foo1.sch foo2.sch ...
The netlist output will be per hierarchy in this case.
Best
attribute in a form such
as "BUSA[31:0]". If you implement your way of BUS pin, please
do not break the usage as in current "Verilog".
Best Regards,
Paul Tan
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To: gEDA user mailing list
Sent: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 12:48 pm
S
sort of
flexibilities to deal with similar situations.
My hope is that this flexibility should not
be reduced or restricted without Ales approval
and other developers concensus.
Best Regards,
Paul Tan
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From: r
To: gEDA user mailing list
Sent: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 6:07 pm
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Paul Tan
geda_hier_tools.tar.gz
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available gnetlist C/SCM capabilities or add their
own if needed. Just do NOT force them upon other backends.
Best Regards,
Paul Tan
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From: John Doty
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Sent: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 2:52 pm
Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Slot naming improvement methods.
On Jan 14,
x", please check out
http://www.dwheeler.com/secure-programs/Secure-Programs-HOWTO/index.html
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Paul Tan
0A
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From: Árpád Magosányi
To: gEDA user mailing list
Sent: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 8:53 am
Subject: Re: gEDA-user: [RFC 1/6] Non-Turing-complete configurat
elf do use "executable config", just look at the
"Dynamic GTK Gschem Tools menu" package I posted on geda-dev
around July-2008.
The gEDA config is fine now, I do not mind having a wrapper
on top of it. But to compleletly eliminate "executable config",
I
Hi Ales,
Thanks, your decision is highly respected.
Best Regards,
Paul Tan
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From: Ales Hvezda
To: gEDA user mailing list
Sent: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 11:40 am
Subject: Re: gEDA-user: [RFC 1/6] Non-Turing-complete configuration
files.
> I don't think it is
Hi Kai-Martin Knaak,
You can change the default key mapping in
system-gschemrc file. Look for (define file-keymap,
and read the Key Mapping rules comments in there.
Best Regards,
Paul Tan
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From: Kai-Martin Knaak
To: geda-u...@seul.org
Sent: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 8:52 pm
("Control V" . buffer-paste1-hotkey)
Similarly, you can do the same for "Control X/Y/Z" if you want.
Hope the above helps.
Best Regards,
Paul Tan
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From: Kipton Moravec
To: gEDA user mailing list
Sent: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:14 pm
Subject: Re: gEDA-use
(hierarchy-traversal "disabled")
This is needed, because Verilog needs a "non-flatten"
hierarchy. The example shows that.
Hope that helps
Best Regards,
Paul Tan
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From: John Griessen
To: gEDA user mailing list
Sent: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 1:22 pm
Subjec
> 1) are there any restrictions on the characters in attribute
>names and values (other than no "=" in the name) ?
The implementation of the "attribute name, value" parser
is in the function around line 357 of
"./libgeda/src/o_attrib.c" file:
357 gboolean
358 o_attrib_string_get_name_value
r question depends on which
backends tools you are using.
Best Regards,
Paul Tan
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From: Kingston Co.
To: geda-user@moria.seul.org
Sent: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 5:47 pm
Subject: gEDA-user: gschem Bus tutorial
Is there a tutorial anywhere?
I cannot find any detailed info on how t
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