gEDA-user: solder paste output (was: Open Source mech)

Peter Clifton wrote: On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 16:54 -0800, Dave N6NZ wrote: On Mar 9, 2010, at 4:01 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: is that true? Is it simply generated on the fly off the pad information during gerber export? That's true. I have no idea how to add a layer and do all the necessary updat

Re: gEDA-user: On integrating simulator in gschem

Arnaud Gardelein wrote: Although far from being completed, oscopy support running a netlister and a simulator, I mean there is a menu option "File>Run netlister and simulate..." where you can specify which command to use. It run both, and then automagically update the loaded signals, recursively

Re: gEDA-user: On integrating simulator in gschem

I did not have all the dependencies installed. Will do that and report to gEDA list when I get it. John ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: On integrating simulator in gschem

Dan McMahill wrote: Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 23:34:17 +0100, Arnaud Gardelein wrote: With the help of Ivan I'm writing a viewer, oscopy (http://repo.or.cz/w/oscopy.git) based draft #4 of this page: http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:data_plotting_improvements IMHO, there are a

Re: gEDA-user: On integrating simulator in gschem

Dave McGuire wrote: On Mar 15, 2010, at 12:32 AM, Dan McMahill wrote: I spend a *lot* of time looking at simulator output and some of the things which are used over and over again are easy interactive zoom in/out, panning at a fixed zoom, putting cursors on waveforms that will lock onto the ac

Re: gEDA-user: Launchpad

Peter TB Brett wrote: This was me, IIRC. And I wasn't, "Grumbling about the way things currently are," I was merely pointing out things that should be taken into consideration when people were discussing possible alternatives to SF.net for issue tracking. I'm sorry if my comments came across i

Re: gEDA-user: if you people want to do it then put up the *cash*

Ales Hvezda wrote: "problem with for-pay servers is users are motivated, they help pay for a few months, then no more" "so any decisions that affect $$ need to account for probably Ales paying for it out of pocket" I have absolutely no issues with removing me

Re: gEDA-user: On integrating simulator in gschem

Ivan Stankovic wrote: The basic idea in lame ASCII art: gschem (schematic) > simulator X ---> output X \ | |---> oscopy \--> simulator Y ---> output Y / The simulator o

gEDA-user: Funding for server

Peter Clifton wrote: It wouldn't take many people willing to contribute £2 per month (say), to fund a server, but getting infrastructure set up to make this kind of donation would be a pain. There is chipin.com "ChipIn does not charge any fees to organizers and contributors of events that sen

Re: gEDA-user: On integrating simulator in gschem

Ivan Stankovic wrote: Here's what Al has been asking for in outline form: http://www.geda.seul.org/wiki/glue-projects Yes, that's exactly how it was done with oscopy. DBUS proved actually very useful and simple to work with. So, have you done some translation from gschem primitives to

Re: gEDA-user: Fundung for server

Windell H. Oskay wrote: A few google text ads (for example) wouldn't be too obtrusive, and would probably generate more than enough funding per month-- Text ads that don't move or pop up anything maybe, but I'd rather put gpleda.org on my billpay list for usually free A2A transfers in the US.

Re: gEDA-user: On integrating simulator in gschem

Dan McMahill wrote: I'll have to try out oscopy and it looks to me like they really are not reinventing everything from scratch anyway. Between dbus for IPC and matplotlib for graphics and python for a language, it looks like there is a lot done already. Seems like matplotlib is full of the

Re: gEDA-user: On integrating simulator in gschem

Ivan Stankovic wrote: On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 04:47:05PM -0500, John Griessen wrote: Al wants more info than you get with SPICE netlist formats. So Verilog-ams level of function is possible. While we're at it, was there a consensus on using verilog-ams as the format of choice for

Re: gEDA-user: Toporouter update?

Anthony Blake wrote: btw, those toporouter guys are rather misleading with their results.. they show off pictures of boards which have been fixed up afterwards.. e.g., "20 mins of toporouter time, and 40 mins of hand editing" for one of their boards. That kind of partial route performance still

Re: gEDA-user: Toporouter update?

Anthony Blake wrote: On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Windell H. Oskay wrote: Also, can anyone think of a new name for the toporouter? There is already a commercial tool called the 'toporouter', which I don't want us to be confused with. untangler runtangler ( route untangler) grouter

Re: gEDA-user: toporouter update

Harry Eaton wrote: Can you guys keep this on the geda-dev list in future.. it is always fun to see how things are progressing. Certainly, if Anthony and I discuss anything now that GSoc is not to be. That's too bad about the Google money. JG

Re: gEDA-user: toporouter update

Anthony Blake wrote: most of my work last year was an answer to some scathing criticism from Harry.. I *had* to do something after that =) So, all we have to do is read the code, scratch our heads and find critiques to make and you'll be compelled to improve it? I may have to stay up late rea

Re: gEDA-user: Toporouter update?

kai-martin knaak wrote: Anthony Blake wrote: greenlight <--- I'd strongly suggest to invent a new word rather than take an existing buzzword. The term "greenlight" currently yields 1.5 Mio google hits. A greenlight router would be almost as invisible to internet search

Re: gEDA-user: Toporouter update?

Dan McMahill wrote: Anthony Blake wrote: I would have liked to use the name 'greenstone', which has special meaning for NZ.. it is a type of jade only found here. Unfortunately my uni supervisor has already used that name for a project: http://www.greenstone.org/ Maybe we could call it the g

Re: gEDA-user: On integrating simulator in gschem

Arnaud Gardelein wrote: Would you think a GUI layout similar to digital oscilloscope would help, I mean having a graphical menu on the side of the graph to access those functions ? Sure, that would be welcomed by experienced and newbie alike. It's good form to allow menus to be customized or r

Re: gEDA-user: Cygwin still supported?

David MacQuigg wrote: The install instructions at http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:cygwin include a lot of obsolete cygwin packages (atk-devel, gtk2-x11-devel, ... 6 others). These packages are no longer available in the current Cygwin distribution. I assume their functions have been moved to o

Re: gEDA-user: Cygwin still supported?

Alberto Maccioni wrote: I currently use gEDA with Cygwin, it works perfectly. Thanks for telling us about this Alberto. What is it like to compile a new version for cygwin once you have your package version 1.6.1? John -- Ecosensory Austin TX ___

Re: gEDA-user: Magnetic bike operation

Rob Butts wrote: I'm having a debate with an ee friend about how the magnetic resistance works on an excersice bike. Does anyone know if it is simply an electro-magnet close to a metal wheel where the stronger the magnetic field the stronger the resistance? yeah, it's related

Re: gEDA-user: Is this type of footprint possible?

my...@iae.nl wrote: Hello all, I want to use a component with the attached footprint. Is it possible to make a footprint with an arc inside? I'm not sure about the exact drawing method you show, but it is possible to make an arc path that matches your concave edge, and add rectangular or polyg

Re: gEDA-user: Magnetic bike operation

Cullen Newsom wrote: What I like to use for demo-ing this is an aluminum pipe, and a very strong magnet. I usually drop something non-magnetic first, to show everyone that it isn't a gag. Then drop the magnet. It's fun to see people put their hand out to catch it, and then watch them wait. Tha

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA/gaf release branch in git? mac build?

Peter Clifton wrote: On Tue, 2010-03-30 at 15:41 -0700, Dave N6NZ wrote: I want to follow the git -- but for now on the release branch (if there is one??) not the dev head. Use the stable-1.6 branch in that case. Individual releases are tagged as well. What's the git command to list tags?

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA logo title block, footprint

Dave N6NZ wrote: I'm getting started on an open-hardware project using gEDA, and did a couple of gEDA logo items. 2. gEDA logo as a pcb footprint (all silk). This is derived from Peter Clifton's geda-logo.pcb. What would be nice is an aid to making copper from an image that is a collectio

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA logo title block, footprint

DJ Delorie wrote: What would be nice is an aid to making copper from an image that is a collection of dots such that pads are created from dots with a keep away defined. I have a program that does that, somewhere... Sounds like a plugin I should make. John _

gEDA-user: snag building GAF from git

heme files" ; \ cp -f ./*.scm ; \ else \ echo "source directory = build directory" ; \ fi copying scheme files cp: target `./gnetlist.scm' is not a directory make[3]: *** [all-local] Error 1 It's repeatable after a make clean. Joh

Re: gEDA-user: snag building GAF from git

Stuart Brorson wrote: Hi -- Any ideas how to get past this: cp: target `./gnetlist.scm' is not a directory make[3]: *** [all-local] Error 1 It's repeatable after a make clean. Ugh. I had this problem at the last code sprint. I did two things: 1. I nuked my entire source directory and g

Re: gEDA-user: snag building GAF from git

John Griessen wrote: Stuart Brorson wrote: 2. That didn't work, so I just put the following line into gaf/gnetlist/scheme/Makefile: builddir = . After doing your wrok around compile completed, but gschem failed with could not find libgeda.so.38 I found this in newly created /opt/ged

Re: gEDA-user: snag building GAF from git

Ales Hvezda wrote: [snip] cp -f ./*.scm ; \ [snip] cp: target `./gnetlist.scm' is not a directory [snip] It's repeatable after a make clean. Yeah, that's no good. What version of automake and autoconf: automake (GNU automake) 1.9.6 autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.65

Re: gEDA-user: complete project sample?

file that defines where pcb footprints can be found. Know of a way to kludge that? John Griessen -- Ecosensory Austin TX ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: complete project sample?

DJ Delorie wrote: PCB will look for ./pcb.settings at startup. You can set the library paths there. Sounds perfect. Same way as in a ~/.pcb/preferences line? I'm ready to test some of your import functions now. Where can I read how to do that? John

Re: gEDA-user: complete project sample?

John Griessen wrote: DJ Delorie wrote: PCB will look for ./pcb.settings at startup. You can set the library paths there. Tried with same line as was in ~/.pcb/preferences and it did not show the library. John ___ geda-user mailing list geda

gEDA-user: pcb libraries and local footprints.

DJ Delorie wrote: Tried with same line as was in ~/.pcb/preferences and it did not show the library. Not preferences, settings... if it works in ~/.pcb/settings, it works as ./pcb.settings ~/.pcb/preferences is a GTK-specific save-state file. The pcb libraries to use are defined in ~/.pcb/p

Re: gEDA-user: pcb libraries and local footprints.

print library, but I can work around that. John Griessen ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: pcb libraries and local footprints.

John Griessen wrote: I also see directory . available even though not asked for. That showing current dir in the pcb library window seems to be a fallback for when one of the search paths does not work. I had asked for these search paths: lib-newlib = /home/john/EEProjects

Re: gEDA-user: command line options in the pcb manual

Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 02:43:04 +0200, kai-martin knaak wrote: I put the command line section of the manual with comments extracted from source to my webspace: http://lilalaser.de/tmp/pcb_commandline_options.pdf A patch for extract-docs produced by "git format-patc

Re: gEDA-user: Matching footprints with symbols

Amand Tihon wrote: Hi everyone. It could be due to my distribution (Debian), but I always get lost in the symbols and footprints libraries that come with gEDA. There are even more at gedasymbols.org and luciani.org For *none* of them does the silkscreen indicate the position of the anode

Re: gEDA-user: Matching footprints with symbols

John Doty wrote: I think it's far more important to have the symbol browser import symbols into the *project* (not the schematic) as they are selected, so they can be customized as necessary. And it should pop up an annoying information box reminding the user to check the symbol until the use

Re: gEDA-user: Matching footprints with symbols

Amand Tihon wrote: Please bear with me, I'm just a hobbyist. I've never had to work with a contractor or manufacturer. Ce n'est pas de rien trouble, Amand. Ask away. John -- Ecosensory Austin TX ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.

Re: gEDA-user: Matching footprints with symbols

Mike Bushroe wrote: Or perhaps just a script or tools that will help set up all the resource files so that both programs access the same directories. I am new enough to Linux that it is not always obvious to me that a resource file is missing, has the wrong information, or the synt

Re: gEDA-user: Matching footprints with symbols

Phil Frost wrote: As Linux filesystem developer and convicted wife murderer Hans Rieser wrote: "The expressive power of an operating system is NOT proportional to the number of components, but instead is proportional to the number of possible connections between its components." I want to mak

Re: gEDA-user: Patch to PCB build system needs testing/feedback

Jared Casper wrote: I think it makes the build much cleaner and readable overall and, more importantly, makes the errors and warnings much easier to see. Anything to help understandability of compile output is good by me. Your change probably won't decrease error output, just the ones that go

Re: gEDA-user: Polygon and track spacing

DJ Delorie wrote: Bizzare thought - our online documentation should be done as a series of PCB files that illustrate the operations. We already know how to render those - just pop up the relevent ones in a new window :-) And it is very compact data -- low load on the distribution. I'll keep t

Re: gEDA-user: Polygon and track spacing

DJ Delorie wrote: I'll keep that in mind as I work. Maybe I'll come across some good illustrations. Note that I meant "pop-up help within pcb" - we already use *.pcb files for many getting started guide and pcb manual illustrations. Imagine having PCB pop up a hint window which itself is a

Re: gEDA-user: Drill file zero suppression

me board, and run that by them. The origin being different has to be approved by them. Is it different because it is panelized? If it isn't all as clear and obvious as can be it will fail. If the origins are different, some writing to explain why needs to

Re: gEDA-user: Copper-free area in footprint

David C. Kerber wrote: If you've got a carbon frame, you could drop it into the seat tube, where it would never be seen, and therefore never removed by a thief... This really does sound like a product since bikes can cost these days. John ___ geda

Re: gEDA-user: OT: Bike Alarms

David SMITH wrote: John Griessen wrote: David C. Kerber wrote: If you've got a carbon frame, you could drop it into the seat tube, where it would never be seen, and therefore never removed by a thief... This really does sound like a product since bikes can cost these days. Not to pu

Re: gEDA-user: Copper-free area in footprint

Armin Faltl wrote: I thought my hint about being a product and advertising was self explanatory. You think, that this is a cool device, because it won't be found. If it's a product and get's advertised, every reasonable bike thieve will know about and look for it. Lojack gets results for cars.

Re: gEDA-user: OT: Bike Alarms

Armin Faltl wrote: I thought my hint about being a product and advertising was self explanatory. You think, that this is a cool device, because it won't be found. If it's a product and get's advertised, every reasonable bike thieve will know about and look for it. Lojack gets results for cars.

Re: gEDA-user: OT: Bike Alarms

David SMITH wrote: On Sun, 2010-05-16 at 20:09 -0500, John Griessen wrote: Lojack gets results for cars. There's bound to be some way to do something that fits in with what happens with bikes. Why give up so easy? It's easier to fit to cars because It's not necessa

Re: gEDA-user: new user, new parts

jb...@frii.com wrote: I've recently started using gEDA after years of work with altium, cadence, pads, et alia: they're what I'm paid to do at work, but I'm enjoying working with gEDA. So, howdy. I've been making parts for projects. I have a handful of symbols here: http://sites.google.com/sit

Re: gEDA-user: "Source" file not found

Mike Bushroe wrote: If a net is formed for each unique name:number, and all inputs and outputs with that unique name are combined together, then I believe it's more a symbol pinnumber to pinlabel correspondence that matches up symbol pin to subschematic refdes name same as pin label. There's

Re: gEDA-user: Still confused on using PCB to make footprints

DJ Delorie wrote: However, if PCB can find your footprints in the library window, try using the new importer (File->Import Schematics). I've not tried that yet. Any chance it will work with flattened hierarchic named schematics with repeated subschematics? John ___

Re: gEDA-user: PolyStitch plugin

DJ Delorie wrote: I needed to do some logos, so everyone gets a logo tool :-) It can also be used to cut holes in a ground plane, by drawing the hole as a separate polygon then stitching it to the plane's polygon. Thanks DJ. Having stitched shapes that will be selectable/draggable with one

Re: gEDA-user: Placing big amount of parts to the schematic (automatically...)

Tamas Szabo wrote: Hi, I think all of you can feel that putting 600+ leds to schematic and changing refdes manually is a _little bit_ boring:-) (And takes quite long time.) Try JCL's code. I got it to work OK. http://www.luciani.org/geda/util/matrix/index.html John -- Ecosensory Austin

Re: gEDA-user: PCB Patches: Use c99 bool instead of manual typedef.

DJ Delorie wrote: You say you want people to become contributers, but then don't have the organization and/or man power to accept contributions. Either one of the devs needs to step up and take charge of handling contributions, or the devs need to extend their trust to someone willing to do it.

Re: gEDA-user: Use of Alt+Mouse1

timecop wrote: Number of keyboards shipped in a year with Windows keys vs no Windows keys are probably somewhat directly related to the market share of Windows-running machines vs Lunix-running toyboxes. If you think in terms like Lunix-toy, then you're following market share and will never lea

Re: gEDA-user: RMS Waveform of a signal

Armin Faltl wrote: To the best of my knowledge, the RMS-value (root mean square) is a constant, i.e. the waveform would be a straight horizontal line. How do you use measure over a defined time interval, so you get a RMS window operation? Then the RMS value would vary with time also and be a

Re: gEDA-user: RMS Waveform of a signal

Richard Balogh wrote: In octave/matlab: y = sqrt(sum(u.*conj(u))/size(u,1)) When You need RMS in certain interval D, just split the vector and repeat for each D... Thanks Richard... psot processing like this seems a good way to get some results for a class by this evening and lets us be "free

gEDA-user: homebrew UV photoplotter for direct exposing of photo-etch-resist on laminate

http://4hv.org/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?66471 Looks like a decent resolution (0.2mm line width) dustless rapid prototyping method. John -- Ecosensory Austin TX ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cg

Re: gEDA-user: homebrew UV photoplotter for direct exposing of photo-etch-resist on laminate

Dave McGuire wrote: I'm seriously considering putting together a laser plotter specifically because I've never gotten good results with toner transfer. :-( Me too. The edges of the toner of my printer are just so so. With the resist on the copper clad laminate, this method has fewest steps

Re: gEDA-user: homebrew UV photoplotter for direct exposing of photo-etch-resist on laminate

DJ Delorie wrote: I also have many mis-starts with TT, causing me to re-print and start again. I almost never have these with UV. However, I have some press-n-peel I've yet to try to see if that solves that problem. One thing I dislike about toner transfer is if a printer you have figured ou

Re: gEDA-user: moving slotting to pcb?

to use or not use. PCB will be able to preserve attributes like those soon, I bet. And then once you can select by attribute match anded with other matches, you've got lots of visible look changes you can do with action commands acting on the selected set. John Griessen -- Ecosensory Austin T

Re: gEDA-user: moving slotting to pcb?

DJ Delorie wrote: If we want to optimize the selection of footprints, gatrib should become the frontend of some sort of database like backend containing all sorts of parts the user (company/worldwide ?) previously used, call it gparts if you want. http://www.delorie.com/pcb/component-dbs.html

Re: gEDA-user: moving slotting to pcb?

ossing the rest that is package related. John Griessen ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: moving slotting to pcb?

DJ Delorie wrote: You wouldn't want to have the *purpose* of a component be defaulted, just what the purpose *means*. Right. One could zone select parts and define their "in-between" attributes so they'd be chosen or narrow choices for a dialog with the user. _

Re: gEDA-user: moving slotting to pcb?

Armin Faltl wrote: John Griessen wrote: The drawing suffixes could be .sch and .ckt. If schematic is what someone enters, the .ckt file is just that same drawing with the extra details stripped out. If you want your circuit file as sort of "header" (in C-speak), and one can st

Re: gEDA-user: Draft Licence for Open Source Hardware published (OT)

timecop wrote: Keep dreaming, bro. Maybe when OK. Time for another mail filter. JG ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Draft Licence for Open Source Hardware published (OT)

hardware thing will be limited to 1. low-tech stuff and/or 2. using proprietary pre-built modules (the Arduino is a good example of these two points). There should be no limit whatsoever on the technical level of open hardware projects. Otherwise, it'll either remain something 3 nerds do

Re: gEDA-user: gsch2pcb and pcb, paths to footprints

l use it then. Can't divert to that yet though. I appreciate your work. Come on anyone else with a board going. Please use git pull and compile to test DJ's new code. John Griessen ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http

gEDA-user: chip scale package soldering (was: dxf again)

ssure on the CS package would be good, right? John Griessen ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: chip scale package soldering

Bob Paddock wrote: They are a real pain in the butt to get the flux out from under. If you are running battery powered stuff, where you want the lowest sleep currents, you either don't use QFN, or put a lot of attention in to making sure the flux is out from under them. I've seen cur

Re: gEDA-user: chip scale package soldering

DJ Delorie wrote: because no-clean flux between D- and D+ on a USB line will cause it to malfunction. It's on the order of 100k ohms at that point even for short traces, which is significant. I've not noticed that one yet. I'll add it to the list for the CM. It's only an issue if you make ci

Re: gEDA-user: New icon set and UI changes

On 08/03/2010 09:04 AM, Kevin Vermeer wrote: On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 14:58 -0700, Andrew Poelstra wrote: No, the text is part of the images, like the current icons. What I will probably do is remove the text entirely, shrink the icons to 32x32 (since with the text, they are mostly blank space anyw

Re: gEDA-user: New icon set and UI changes

On 08/03/2010 09:18 AM, Andrew Poelstra wrote: What do you think about setting route-styles on a per-layer basis. That could work before we get virtual layer groups. One would have to create layers that "go together" so when a trace changes to another layer in the group that goes together, t

Re: gEDA-user: New icon set and UI changes

On 08/03/2010 10:54 AM, Andrew Poelstra wrote: My problem is that I'm used to thinking of layers as physical layers, and I'm confused about the logistics of using virtual layers. What I think we've been meaning as we talk about virtual layers is either a layer group of two or three that has vi

Re: gEDA-user: OT Verilog syntax question

On 08/03/2010 12:16 PM, Patrick Doyle wrote: wire [9:0] tmp = $rtoi(whatever); Regardless, I'm getting the impression that there is no simple way to cast an integer expression to a bit vector. I wonder why I thought there was... probably was just wishful thinking. verilog originated to descr

gEDA-user: wishful UI (was: New icon set and UI changes)

On 08/03/2010 12:48 PM, Andrew Poelstra wrote: Would each layer group have its own "mini-environment" that remembers its route-style settings? When creating new route styles, would you need to choose "only this layer group" or "all layer groups"? It's just imaginary, so why not either way? Red

Re: gEDA-user: wishful UI

On 08/03/2010 02:59 PM, Mark Anderson wrote: Speaking of UI changes, I've been interested in developing a PCB OSX native HID layer. Is there documentation in any form as to how to go about this, or do I just need to dive into the code? Try searching through the manual from the latest code, but

Re: gEDA-user: PCB, possible to incorporate FreeRotateBuffer() in Buffer menu?

mmands isn't hard -- I've done some. How about you next? If you do, I'll test them in the next two weeks. John Griessen ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Yet another Icarus question

On 08/04/2010 09:58 AM, Patrick Doyle wrote: Can anybody tell me if the following is an Icarus feature or a Verilog feature. I would expect the two $display statements to show the same results. For some reason, the first one expands the result to 27 bits instead of the 26 bits I would have expe

Re: gEDA-user: Yet another Icarus question

s possible so as to not be surprised by it later :-)) Thanks and good luck. Ruling out a large part of the processing sounds like good divide and conquer debugging to me. John Griessen ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://ww

Re: gEDA-user: New icon set and UI changes

On 08/04/2010 06:50 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: Ok, I stop before I enter pipe dream mode. Those are good ideas. Maybe he'll code two of them. JG or three... PS larger icons are fine too. Configured via something like pcbmenu.res files so we can publish many UIs, not just one. Board design

Re: gEDA-user: wishful UI

ing DRCs or drawing circuitry would not matter, and fewer cases of painting oneself or one's autorouter into a corner would happen. John Griessen -- Ecosensory Austin TX ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: wishful UI

Andrew Poelstra wrote: A way to handle schematic driven work styles like Stefan seems to want is to make a PCB plugin to color traces differently, or just temporarily, as an aid to using the correct DRC rules as you draw, or autoroute. Rather than using a plugin system, I think we should allo

Re: gEDA-user: wishful UI

Steven Michalske wrote: On Aug 8, 2010, at 8:26 AM, John Griessen wrote: settings like "color all trace segments of net PWR1 from the gschem schematic blue-green whatever physical layer they are on. That would not be a popular plugin, but could be helpful in some work flow. It would

gEDA-user: Commercial CAD, land pattern generators report

a defacto standard (which is the way all electronics standards have started). John Griessen -- Ecosensory Austin TX http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Digital_Cinema_Camera_Company ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.o

Re: gEDA-user: Commercial CAD, land pattern generators report

Bert Timmerman wrote: Hi John, I was working on a dxf exporter for pcb. Recently did a couple of steps converting this into a pcb plugin for exporting dxf stuff, and maybe importing a pcb outline from mechanical CAD. Problem with dxf is that it doesn't support 3D shapes in a usable way, this r

Re: gEDA-user: Commercial CAD, land pattern generators report

Dave N6NZ wrote: On Aug 11, 2010, at 12:28 PM, John Griessen wrote; What's a good reference about DXF? Arghhh... . . .. the structure of dxf... Imagine a design committee consisting entirely of passive-aggressive, 'B' ark chimpanzees that were only convinced to join the

Re: gEDA-user: Commercial CAD, land pattern generators report

Bob Paddock wrote: > a 1 part library operating a layout service bureau Take a look at <[1]http://wikicomponents.com> "The worlds first and only truly open source for 2D and 3D PCB component package, part and electrical device data". I corresponded with Dino Ditta, the pers

gEDA-user: land pattern generators vs. verifying footprints

Bert Timmerman wrote: Hi all, a 1 part library operating a layout service bureau Take a look at "The worlds first Excuse me for having a rather pessimistic view about this site. IMHO, this flipped "wikicomponents" coin can go just one of two ways: Head:

Re: gEDA-user: [OT] Fluorescent tube help

Chris Smith wrote: I assumed that a previous owner uprated the tubes without changing the ballast, but in looking for a replacement I have become stuck. I can find plenty of general information on how fluorescent tubes work, but no specific advice on ballast selection. 2. two tubes can be w

Re: gEDA-user: Commercial CAD, land pattern generators report

On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Peter Clifton wrote: On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 09:17 -0500, John Griessen wrote: OpenNurbs.org has the code, public domain. He's considering forking and licensing it GPL. IMO, that sounds like quite an aggressive thing to do to a code base.. particu

gEDA-user: 3D package data to land pattern generator

Felipe De la Puente Christen wrote: Why not using IDES/STEP file format. He's looking for some way to have a 3D library at least be viewable without installing a giant amount of code from OpenCascade. John ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria

gEDA-user: 3d package to land pattern generator

Armin Faltl wrote: IGES is an old US military standard. It means 'Initial Graphics Exchange Specification' and the specification for it is freely available, since it's a work from a US government agency (I got it ;-). As the name says, it was meant as preliminary work, but served it's purpose

gEDA-user: GPL-v3 for Open CAD

al davis wrote: On Friday 13 August 2010, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: can you give an example, please? Under GPL-3 you can't make a contribution that applies one of your own patents, then sue the users of the package for patent infringement. Sounds OK for openness so far. What else? John

Re: gEDA-user: 3d package to land pattern generator

nteer effort is such a slim and none chance to come by. It's something automate-able or nothing. I'll be working on creating some extra "rent paid up" time to help Dave automate DXF-to-footprint data. John Griessen ___ geda-us

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