gEDA-user: pcb displays popup dialogs for messages instead of using log window

2010-11-09 Thread Colin D Bennett
Hi, pcb is displaying some annoying dialogs with a "printf" style format string instead of the usual log message window I am used to seeing. I can't figure out how to turn off these dialogs, of which several pop up at startup and then whenever a message would be logged. See the screen capture co

Re: gEDA-user: pcb displays popup dialogs for messages instead of using log window

2010-11-09 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Tue, 09 Nov 2010 22:36:28 +0100 Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Colin D Bennett wrote: > > > The startup messages are a little annoying, > > but when I hit 'o' and get a barrage of dozens of "shorted net" > > warnings, etc., it's basically unusabl

Re: gEDA-user: Restrict facility?

2010-11-10 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 00:09:50 -0500 DJ Delorie wrote: > > > a) There is no such facility. > > This one. We've been talking about a redesign to pcb's internals that > would allow support for this, but at the moment, we don't have it. Could you emulate it in the current version of pcb by drawi

Re: gEDA-user: pcb displays popup dialogs for messages instead of using log window

2010-11-10 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 10:51:15 +1100 Stephen Ecob wrote: > On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Kai-Martin Knaak > wrote: > > Colin D Bennett wrote: > > > >> The startup messages are a little annoying, > >> but when I hit 'o' and get a barrage of doz

Re: gEDA-user: Restrict facility?

2010-11-10 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 22:00:16 +0100 Dietmar Schmunkamp wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Am 10.11.2010 19:06, schrieb Colin D Bennett: > > On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 00:09:50 -0500 > > DJ Delorie wrote: > > > >> > >>>

gEDA-user: Thermal pads overlapping regular SMD pads and solder mask

2010-11-10 Thread Colin D Bennett
I'm working on a footprint for an SMD LED (Optek OVS5MWWBCR4) for which the manufacturer recommends larger SMD pads for thermal reasons, with appropriately applied solder mask only to the actual electrical contact areas, presumably important to assist accurate placement of the LED. It looks like I

Re: gEDA-user: Thermal pads overlapping regular SMD pads and solder mask

2010-11-10 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 16:57:33 -0500 DJ Delorie wrote: > > > contact areas, presumably important to assist accurate placement of > > the LED. > > Turns out resist is a better black-body emitter than shiny metals. > > > It looks like I can in fact set different solder mask clearances for > > over

Re: gEDA-user: Thermal pads overlapping regular SMD pads and solder mask

2010-11-10 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 18:25:12 -0500 DJ Delorie wrote: > Right, if you read my comment I suggested making the call itself > conditional. I just realized that after I posted. The following patch actually seems to work: === modified file 'src/draw.c' --- src/draw.c 2010-09-10 14:30:23 + +++ s

Re: gEDA-user: Problems compiling PCB Release 20100929

2010-11-12 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 20:46:12 -0500 d...@umich.edu wrote: > P.S. Will my Ubuntu 10.04 system get confused if I install both the > Synaptic package of pcb along with the compiled version? You should look at the 'prefix' where pcb is configured for installation. Don't use a prefix of '/usr' since

Re: gEDA-user: Matching footprints with symbols

2010-11-12 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 05:23:05 +0200 kai-martin knaak wrote: > Stefan Salewski wrote: > > > On Sat, 2010-04-17 at 01:15 +0200, Armin Faltl wrote: > > >> Did anyone try my schematic posted in > >> http://www.seul.org/pipermail/geda-user/2010-April/046716.html > > I read the list with knode via gm

Re: gEDA-user: Matching footprints with symbols

2010-11-12 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 05:23:05 +0200 kai-martin knaak wrote: > Stefan Salewski wrote: > > > This can give trouble in rare cases due to m4 macro expansion. > >/rare/many/ > The insidious side of this bug shows by the many seemingly unrelated >

Re: gEDA-user: Matching footprints with symbols

2010-11-15 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 14:56:09 +0100 Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Colin D Bennett wrote: > > >> Bottom line: Avoid hyphens in footprint names except to add a > >> revision number at the end of the base name. > > > > Alternate bottom line: Avoid m4 footprint l

Re: gEDA-user: New branch of PCB

2010-11-16 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 20:09:34 +0900 timecop wrote: > With TopoR having a freeware version for 2 layers and up to 256 nets > (or some other fairly high for 'hobby' use limitation), there's not > really any point on bothering improving built in autorouter... > Does PCB have Specctra DSN/SES export/i

Re: gEDA-user: STEP Format? [WAS: Re: PCB+GL+3D Packages??]

2010-11-19 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 17:27:45 + Peter Clifton wrote: > On Fri, 2010-11-19 at 01:29 +0100, kai-martin knaak wrote: > > Peter Clifton wrote: > > > > > stl (very nice) > > > > IMHO, stl is a mesh only format. That is, everything is made of > > triangles -- no squares, no circles, no real curvat

Re: gEDA-user: a different approach to 3D modeling

2010-11-19 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 15:24:05 -0500 Patrick Doyle wrote: > On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Peter Clifton > wrote: > > On Fri, 2010-11-19 at 17:43 +, Peter Clifton wrote: > >> Perhaps it ranks as "nice to have", especially if there is some > >> good modelling software which only makes that fo

Re: gEDA-user: If you also think the PCB lower-case letter 's' is ugly, here's a replacement

2010-11-22 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 17:45:31 + Peter Clifton wrote: > The future is not using gsch2pcb to make a PCB file directly of > course, DJ has been working on a better import mechanism, which we > should teach gsch2pcb to make use of. (Which would then make PCB > create the file). > > In this ideali

gEDA-user: Inkscape text->pstoedit->pcb and importing PostScript/PDF/EPS vector graphics with holes

2010-11-22 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 13:50:03 -0600 Mark Rages wrote: > On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Colin D Bennett > wrote: > > How hard would it be to make use of the freetype library to handle > > all vector-based fonts?  I imagine the font outlines could be > > converted to lin

Re: gEDA-user: Inkscape text->pstoedit->pcb and importing PostScript/PDF/EPS vector graphics with holes

2010-11-22 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 15:25:49 -0600 Mark Rages wrote: > I've seen this bug before too. Try "text to path" in Inkscape. If > that fails, binary search for the offending text: Delete half of it, > try again, etc. Please do file the bug on pstoedit. Workaround validated. Thanks for the tip. Usi

Re: gEDA-user: Inkscape text->pstoedit->pcb and importing PostScript/PDF/EPS vector graphics with holes

2010-11-22 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 23:21:17 +0100 Jan Martinek wrote: > > I really wanted to create a logo/description label in Inkscape and > > put it on a board I recently made, but after trying for an hour or > > two to get pstoedit to import text elements properly (holes in > > letters like 'B' or 'o' were

Re: gEDA-user: Cant find footprint

2010-11-23 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 17:50:50 +0100 Stefan Salewski wrote: > On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 13:39 -0300, Luis Palombo wrote: > > Helloo... > >Everytime i was used GUIs. > >First make a directory for project. > >Copy gschemrc and gafrc to directory. > >By a terminal, go to this folde

Re: gEDA-user: mirrored footprint

2010-11-24 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 17:17:47 +0100 Jan Martinek wrote: > On 11/24/2010 05:13 PM, Jan Martinek wrote: > > On 11/23/2010 03:52 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > >> Hi. > >> I just hit a legitimate use case for mirrored footprints: > >> A layout sketch for dead-bug-prototyping. That is, glue the > >> co

Re: gEDA-user: Thermal pads overlapping regular SMD pads and solder mask

2010-11-24 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 15:39:28 -0800 Colin D Bennett wrote: > On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 18:25:12 -0500 > DJ Delorie wrote: > > > Right, if you read my comment I suggested making the call itself > > conditional. > > I just realized that after I posted. > > The follo

gEDA-user: pstoedit patch fixing crash in Inkscape->pstoedit->pcb

2010-11-30 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 14:25:51 -0800 Colin D Bennett wrote: > On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 15:25:49 -0600 > Mark Rages wrote: > > > I've seen this bug before too. Try "text to path" in Inkscape. If > > that fails, binary search for the offending text: Delete half o

Re: gEDA-user: Text in PCB elements

2010-12-10 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Thu, 9 Dec 2010 15:35:23 -0300 John Coppens wrote: > I'd like to put text into PCB elements (in this case to label pins of > a connector on the silk screen), but that doesn't seem possible... > Each time I try to add text to an element, it just disappears. I > checked the specs. > > I know I

Re: gEDA-user: Text in PCB elements

2010-12-13 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 23:28:25 +0100 Armin Faltl wrote: > Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > > There is a difference: The rendering happens on footprint creation > > time. It is irreversible, meaning, the text cannot be edited after > > the fact. > I think I got you now: you want to place one footprint per

Re: gEDA-user: Erroneous rats added to PCB

2010-12-16 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Fri, 17 Dec 2010 00:40:50 + Peter Clifton wrote: > On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 16:37 -0500, DJ Delorie wrote: > > Peter Laurich writes: > > > Has anyone else seen this problem? > > > > http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3137324&group_id=73743&atid=538811 > > Hmm, I can't reproduc

Re: gEDA-user: Erroneous rats added to PCB

2010-12-16 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 23:54:12 -0800 Colin D Bennett wrote: > On Fri, 17 Dec 2010 00:40:50 + > Peter Clifton wrote: > > > On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 16:37 -0500, DJ Delorie wrote: > > > Peter Laurich writes: > > > > Has anyone else seen this problem? > &g

gEDA-user: Duplicate messages and mailing list To: address

2010-12-20 Thread Colin D Bennett
I'm getting all the replies to Kai-Martin Knaak's messages twice. It looks like it has something to do with K-M's messages having a To: field of geda-u...@seul.org while everyone else's has geda-user@moria.seul.org, causing the replies to have an extra Cc: address of geda-u...@seul.org. Is everyo

Re: gEDA-user: gschem Add Attribute

2010-12-20 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 12:49:00 -0500 "George M. Gallant, Jr." wrote: > The gschem "Add Attribute" defaults to "Show Name & Value". Is there > a user selectable option to default to "Show Value Only"? Maybe a nice feature to have would be to default to the choice the user made last time Add Attribu

Re: gEDA-user: bugs, warts and feature requests (2)

2010-12-21 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 14:24:57 +0100 Kovacs Levente wrote: > On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 13:17:50 +0100 > kai-martin knaak wrote: > > > • pcb missing feature: A GUI way to do FreeRotateBuffer() > > This does not have to be driven by the mouse. In many cases > > keyboard input would be preferred. > > yay

Re: gEDA-user: How to make a foot print

2010-12-22 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Wed, 22 Dec 2010 13:34:31 -0800 blueeag...@gmail.com wrote: > I really like the gSchema program and after getting used to it, I > find it better than most I have tried. But the PCB program has a lot > to be desired. I could probably do it if all I needed was through > hole, but I need some cu

Re: gEDA-user: get-package-attribute sometimes returns "?" - ID: 3114991

2010-12-23 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Thu, 23 Dec 2010 16:11:18 +0100 Stefan Salewski wrote: > On Thu, 2010-12-23 at 15:18 +0100, Armin Faltl wrote: > > > I'll provide my symbols and footprints with this features: > > > > * symbols are smaller than the standard library > > > > Why? > > I think the only reason to shrink all sy

Re: gEDA-user: How to make a foot print

2011-01-05 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Wed, 29 Dec 2010 12:45:14 +0100 Levente Kovacs wrote: > On Wed, 22 Dec 2010 17:29:24 -0800 > Colin D Bennett wrote: > > > You are not alone. Making footprints in pcb takes a lot of > > practice, for me a least. I have made many footprints in pcb over > > the pas

Re: gEDA-user: Soft and Hard symbols

2011-01-06 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Mon, 03 Jan 2011 11:25:26 -0500 DJ Delorie wrote: > > Stefan Salewski writes: > > I guess all this was discussed on the list multiple times in the > > past, > > My thoughts: http://www.delorie.com/pcb/component-dbs.html > > You should be able to defer the selection of packages, pinouts, an

Re: gEDA-user: SourceForge bug trackers frozen

2011-01-06 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Thu, 6 Jan 2011 16:38:59 + Peter TB Brett wrote: > In case you're wondering where the gEDA/gaf bug trackers at > SourceForge.net have disappeared to, they've been shut down so that > no new changes occur while Peter C gets the bugs imported to their > new home at Launchpad.net. The conver

Re: gEDA-user: Soft and Hard symbols

2011-01-07 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 20:21:29 +0100 Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Colin D Bennett wrote: > > > The orthogonality > > of these three pieces (schematic, footprint mapping, and PCB > > layout) is pleasing to me, but I have to admit that you would > > rarely find a need to

Re: gEDA-user: Bug triage

2011-01-07 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Fri, 7 Jan 2011 10:22:53 + Peter TB Brett wrote: > Please use "Fix released" only if the fix has been in a released > version (the latest release was 1.6.1). Otherwise, use "Fix > committed". Is there any special tag or status indicator I can use for a bug which has a working bugfix patc

Re: gEDA-user: Bug triage

2011-01-07 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 10:14:19 + Peter Clifton wrote: > There are a lot of bugs which are still "New", ie.. haven't been > confirmed or triaged yet, and I'd like to encourage EVERYONE to come > and help with that task. I have a question regarding the validity of the following bug: “Make minim

Re: gEDA-user: Bug triage

2011-01-07 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 16:17:55 -0500 DJ Delorie wrote: > > The minimimum size is still set to 1000, but was never updated when we > switched to centimils, so the smallest board is now limited to 10 > mils! > > Yes, the GTK sizes dialog still enforces it! OK, then I have included you comment in t

Re: gEDA-user: Bug triage

2011-01-08 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Sat, 08 Jan 2011 19:40:49 + Peter Clifton wrote: > On Sat, 2011-01-08 at 19:33 +, Gareth Edwards wrote: > Writing a bug triage guide would be handy I think.. thanks! We can > update it if and when we find problems with how things are working. Yes, it would be useful to have a bug tria

Re: gEDA-user: Bugs, warts and feature requests (5)

2011-01-11 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 01:03:50 +0100 Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > • gerbv feature request: Add a view mode that shows only the > difference of two layers. This would be handy when I have to asses > the changes that I made to an existing design. Also: * gerbv feature request: Ability to view the boar

Re: gEDA-user: Building PCB

2011-01-13 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 19:29:53 +0100 Markus Hitter wrote: > > Am 13.01.2011 um 16:46 schrieb DJ Delorie: > > > Run autogen.sh; it runs everything else for you. Then run configure > > with the options you want. > > > > autopoint is in gettext > > autopoint is in a seperate package, but other tha

Re: gEDA-user: Rant about "Make Inv Text Vis"

2011-01-16 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 08:47:19 + Peter Clifton wrote: > Are there any use-cases for invisible text which is not an attribute? > Since it might exist already though - we MAY have to add an: > "Invisble [x]" option to the text edit dialogue box. I often include lines or even paragraphs of invisi

Re: gEDA-user: gschem: How to set the margin for printing?

2011-01-16 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 20:20:32 -0600 John Griessen wrote: > On 01/16/2011 08:07 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > > But no margin is > > too little. Is there a way to set the size of the margin? > > > Put something that prints along the edge of the page > so that it goes int the unprintable space on

Re: gEDA-user: gschem: How to set the margin for printing?

2011-01-18 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 17:43:13 -0600 John Griessen wrote: > On 01/17/2011 12:47 AM, Colin D Bennett wrote: > > It seems bad to force the drawing to be designed for a specific > > printer and page (thus margin in paper space units) size. > > It also seems bad for printers to n

Re: gEDA-user: OpenGL branch

2011-01-18 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 18:10:11 + Peter Clifton wrote: > On Tue, 2011-01-18 at 11:49 -0500, George M. Gallant, Jr. wrote: > > What is required to run the OpenGL port? > > Just a working (and not ancient) OpenGL driver. If glxgears runs, it > will "probably" run. > > git clone -b pcb+gl git://r

Re: gEDA-user: gschem: How to set the margin for printing?

2011-01-19 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 12:57:39 +0100 Markus Hitter wrote: > Am 18.01.2011 um 09:42 schrieb Colin D Bennett: > > > it's unfortunate that printers are usually not > > physically capable of printing on the entire page for the intended > > paper size. However, gi

Re: gEDA-user: cheapest pcb manufacturer that does silkscreen/soldermask

2011-01-21 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 10:05:27 -0800 yamazakir2 wrote: > I have been using 4pcb for awhile now and even for a small board the > cheapest option they have is $250 for an order of 5 boards (their > minimum quantity). They have a bare bones (no silk/mask) option that I > have been using that allows yo

gEDA-user: gschem: directly connecting two nets?

2011-01-23 Thread Colin D Bennett
Sometimes I would like to directly connect two nets. There are a number of different specific cases in which I would like to do this for simplicity in the schematic. For instance, I might have an "input port" component (e.g., input-1.sym) on a connector pin with net "VLCD", and then somewhere els

Re: gEDA-user: git based wiki

2011-01-24 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 04:02:57 +0100 Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Peter TB Brett wrote: > > > Bonus points for syntax highlighting mode for Emacs. > > http://alexott.blogspot.com/2008/09/emacs-dokuwiki.html ;-) > > > > An example of IMHO *lovely* markup is reStructured Text. I like reStructuredTe

Re: gEDA-user: OT - Joystick control of stepper or servo motors

2011-01-24 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:19:53 -0500 "David C. Kerber" wrote: > Hi, electronics gurus! I'm looking for suggestions on the best > inexpensive way to use a USB game joystick to control stepper or > servo motors. > > The application is using a joystick to drive the the platform > positioning knobs

Re: gEDA-user: OT - Joystick control of stepper or servo motors

2011-01-25 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 13:31:00 + Peter Clifton wrote: > On Tue, 2011-01-25 at 10:16 +0900, John Doty wrote: > > On Jan 25, 2011, at 9:53 AM, Peter Clifton wrote: > > > > > How much does the Armadeus board cost? > > > > The embedded board itself is 118,00€ (full version). It's designed > > to

gEDA-user: pcb: possible to have multiple silk layers?

2011-01-26 Thread Colin D Bennett
Is there any way to set up multiple silk screen layers in pcb? The idea is that I want to be able to turn off display of the extra text/graphics on the silk layer that I have added to the board, but still be able to see the component outlines. For the same purpose I also wish we could group objec

Re: gEDA-user: pcb: possible to have multiple silk layers?

2011-01-26 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 21:38:39 +0100 Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Colin D Bennett wrote: > > > For the same purpose I also wish we could group objects together > > <https://bugs.launchpad.net/pcb/+bug/699592> so that my imported > > text/graphics I add to the board (o

Re: gEDA-user: git for gedasymbols.org ?

2011-02-03 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Thu, 3 Feb 2011 13:51:33 +0100 (CET) k...@aspodata.se (Karl Hammar) wrote: > Kai-Martin: > > How about git for gedasymbols.org? > > (I'd volunteer to modify the instructions to reflect the change) > > Yes please, and I'd volunteer to do the conversion. I have to say it would be much more p

Re: gEDA-user: git for gedasymbols.org ?

2011-02-03 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Thu, 3 Feb 2011 11:32:22 -0700 asom...@gmail.com wrote: > I have to agree with Mark. Maintaining a hierarchical organization > would be a laborious and thankless job for one poor schmuck. But a > tagging scheme puts most of the burden on individual contributors. I > think it could actually w

gEDA-user: transition of pcb internal units to metric (SI, mm)

2011-02-07 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Sun, 6 Feb 2011 18:57:06 +0100 Markus Hitter wrote: > Am 06.02.2011 um 16:24 schrieb Peter Clifton: > > > Imperial parts are not a problem for a sufficiently fine metric > > grid. I > > don't think we should remove the option of working on a Mil grid > > though. > > I'm wondering what's

Re: gEDA-user: New Column: From the CAD Library

2011-02-07 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Mon, 07 Feb 2011 13:30:24 -0500 rickman wrote: > On 2/7/2011 11:21 AM, Peter C.J. Clifton wrote: > > On Feb 7 2011, rickman wrote: > > > >> The real question is does the current method cause any problems? > >> When this was discussed a few months ago the answer was "no". So > >> why worry a

Re: gEDA-user: New Column: From the CAD Library

2011-02-07 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Mon, 7 Feb 2011 13:38:30 -0500 DJ Delorie wrote: > > > What are people using this software for that requires better than 10 > > millionths of an inch accuracy? > > The problem people see is that a metric grid is rounded to the inch > units, so a 45 degree line does NOT always end on a grid p

Re: gEDA-user: transition of pcb internal units to metric (SI, mm)

2011-02-07 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Mon, 7 Feb 2011 13:41:12 -0500 DJ Delorie wrote: > Please don't start the discussion again; we already came to a > reasonable conclusion last time. Sorry, I was trying to show that this thread is heading toward duplicating that discussion. > * nanometer internal units > > * 32-bit values on

Re: gEDA-user: transition of pcb internal units to metric (SI, mm)

2011-02-07 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Mon, 7 Feb 2011 15:09:08 -0500 DJ Delorie wrote: > > this is NOT what the current software does > > True. > > > there are NO plans to change any of it. > > False. I will add only this: anyone with questions about the metric units/nanometer/64-bit change should read every single post in the

Re: gEDA-user: transition of pcb internal units to metric (SI, mm)

2011-02-08 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Tue, 8 Feb 2011 07:27:01 -0800 Edward Hennessy wrote: > On Feb 7, 2011, at 10:41 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: > > > > * nanometer internal units > > > > * 32-bit values on 32-bit machines, 64-bit on 64-bit. > > > > * configure option for 64-bit values regardless of machine in case > > you need a b

gEDA-user: Abuse of "reply" considered harmful: how to post to a mailing list

2011-02-09 Thread Colin D Bennett
To all participants on the geda-user mailing list who wish to begin a new thread of discussion: Whenever you intend to post a message to begin a *new* thread of discussion, do not use the "reply" feature of your e-mail application to do so. Instead, click the "To: gEDA user mailing list " address

Re: gEDA-user: Open Collector Error Checking

2011-02-10 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 16:47:39 -0700 John Doty wrote: > > On Feb 10, 2011, at 4:40 PM, Oliver King-Smith wrote: > > > I am getting this error when I run the DRC2 > > ERROR: Pin(s) with pintype 'open collector': U70:2 U70:4 > > are connected by net 'unnamed_net204' > > to pin(s) wi

Re: gEDA-user: Strange resistor footprints

2011-02-17 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 11:14:36 -0500 DJ Delorie wrote: > You can disable the M4 macro libraries and just use the file-based > libraries (skip-m4 yes or --skip-m4) This is what I always do. Newlib footprints FTW; m4 lib must die. My gsch2pcb project files look like: $ cat Board.project

Re: gEDA-user: polygon regression in pcb+gl

2011-02-17 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 05:27:29 +0100 Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > This may be mainly for Peter Clifton: > The current head of his pcb+gl branch omits some polygons in my > layouts. See the attached screen shots. The working copy of pcb+gl > was pulled from repo.or.cz on December 6th. Unfortunately, I

Re: gEDA-user: polygon regression in pcb+gl

2011-02-18 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 19:12:36 +0100 Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Colin D Bennett wrote: > > > The git history is a litte muddled... > > > > When you say it's a little muddled, do you think that if it wasn't > > rebased constantly that the history would be

gEDA-user: Snap to grid preventing selecting/dragging text

2011-02-21 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 00:10:40 -0800 (PST) Oliver King-Smith wrote: > OK I see the error of my ways. I had to turn off the grid so I could > click on the refdes. This brings up a good point. Very often I have difficulty selecting small components and more significantly text in pcb, due to snap-t

Re: gEDA-user: Snap to grid preventing selecting/dragging text

2011-02-21 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 02:52:01 +0100 Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Colin D Bennett wrote: > > > This brings up a good point. Very often I have difficulty selecting > > small components and more significantly text in pcb, due to > > snap-to-grid being enabled. > > Did

gEDA-user: pcb GTK tear-off menus don't respond to mouse clicks

2011-02-22 Thread Colin D Bennett
Has anyone else noticed that the items in pcb's tearoff menus don't respond to mouse clicks anymore? When I click an item in a torn off menu, it becomes selected (has a dark background) but no action is taken. I can then press the up or down arrow keys to move the selection up and down the menu,

Re: gEDA-user: pcb GTK tear-off menus don't respond to mouse clicks

2011-02-23 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 01:33:17 + Peter Clifton wrote: > On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 14:03 -0800, Colin D Bennett wrote: > > Has anyone else noticed that the items in pcb's tearoff menus don't > > respond to mouse clicks anymore? > > > > When I click an item in

Re: gEDA-user: pcb GTK tear-off menus don't respond to mouse clicks

2011-02-23 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 05:21:51 +0100 Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Peter Clifton wrote: > > > I can reproduce the bug, but only for the torn-off menus themselves. > > sub-menus of a torn off menu work correctly. > > Torn off menus work all right over here. This is with debian/wheezy > updated yesterd

Re: gEDA-user: Board cleaner recommendations

2011-02-23 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 13:41:30 -0600 John Griessen wrote: > On 02/23/2011 01:38 PM, yamazakir2 wrote: > > what do you guys use to get it looking flux-free > > and clean again? > > If you use water wash flux and solder paste, you can use hot > water and a little detergent. Could use the dish washe

gEDA-user: pcb commands to automatically select, cut, rotate, and paste elements

2011-02-23 Thread Colin D Bennett
I'm trying to make a board with a moderate number of LEDs arranged in concentric circles. To do this, I am trying to formulate a pcb command script that will perform all the necessary operations to do this. The basics are working, but I cannot figure out how to indicate the "reference point" when

Re: gEDA-user: Board cleaner recommendations

2011-02-23 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 07:53:32 +1100 Stephen Ecob wrote: > It's crucial for parts to be quite dry *before* soldering - otherwise > the rapid boiling of trapped moisture can cause components to crack. > *After* soldering, it's much less of an issue. Many components can be > washed with water and de

Re: gEDA-user: pcb GTK tear-off menus don't respond to mouse clicks

2011-02-23 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 21:08:54 + Peter Clifton wrote: > On Wed, 2011-02-23 at 09:30 -0800, Colin D Bennett wrote: > > On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 05:21:51 +0100 > > Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > > > > > Peter Clifton wrote: > > > > > > > I can

Re: gEDA-user: pcb commands to automatically select, cut, rotate, and paste elements

2011-02-23 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 15:36:58 -0500 DJ Delorie wrote: > > If you know where each LED goes, why not put them on the board in the > right place, instead of dispersing them then moving them? Then you > know where the Paste() reference is. How exactly does one put them on the board in the right pla

Re: gEDA-user: pcb commands to automatically select, cut, rotate, and paste elements

2011-02-23 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 22:14:49 +0100 Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > DJ Delorie wrote: > > > Or write a plugin that does a MoveComponent() > > A MoveComponent() action would be a major step toward general > scriptability. IMHO, this should be part of the core, not as a > volatile plugin. Is there som

Re: gEDA-user: pcb commands to automatically select, cut, rotate, and paste elements

2011-02-23 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:18:48 -0500 DJ Delorie wrote: > > A MoveComponent() action would be a major step toward general > > scriptability. IMHO, this should be part of the core, not as a > > volatile plugin. > > If you'd like to do the patch, go for it. Otherwise, a plugin gets > him a solution

Re: gEDA-user: Please test new grids for GTK PCB

2011-02-24 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 07:17:33 + (UTC) jpka wrote: > Hi! > I prepare patch for new grid management, if you're interested please > test it: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/pcb/+bug/724154 The new grid support is fantastic. I love it. I did some editing of the UI text that you might find helpful;

Re: gEDA-user: pcb plugin smartdisperse fails on load

2011-02-24 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 20:48:39 + Peter Clifton wrote: > On Thu, 2011-02-24 at 15:45 -0500, DJ Delorie wrote: > > > In-tree "plugins" is a +1 from me, as I hate to think of the > > > level of breakage we could cause if we do more drastic > > > re-factoring of PCB. > > > > I was thinking, pcb pr

Re: gEDA-user: Please test new grids for GTK PCB

2011-02-24 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 22:14:42 +0100 Felix Ruoff wrote: > Am 24.02.2011 08:17, schrieb jpka: > > I prepare patch for new grid management, if you're interested > > please test it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/pcb/+bug/724154 > > Thanks > Hi, > > I have had a short test of your powerfull patch. I am n

Re: gEDA-user: General Layers questions

2011-02-24 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 22:41:03 + Peter Clifton wrote: > On Thu, 2011-02-24 at 23:04 +0100, Martin Kupec wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have written something to: > > http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:pcb_layers > > > > It is still a bit work in progess, but you can start editing it to > > fit your ide

Re: gEDA-user: General Layers questions

2011-02-24 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 20:59:31 -0800 Jared Casper wrote: > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 7:39 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak > wrote: > >> I agree that color does not belong in the layout file.  I may keep > >> changing my preferences on my pcb color theme, but I don't want to > >> update all my layout files to t

Re: gEDA-user: Anybody have any experience with cheap chinese reflow ovens?

2011-02-25 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:40:21 + David Smith wrote: > yamazakir2 wrote: > > I'm talking about ones such as these: > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/T-962-INFRARED-IC-HEATER-REFLOW-WAVE-OVEN-BGA-T962-a5-/120664888674?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c18301562 > > > > It seems like $320 shipped is pre

gEDA-user: gschem: net attribute for power I/O, clean appearance? (no “:1”)

2011-03-08 Thread Colin D Bennett
Has there been any work or planning toward making it easier and less error-prone to produce schematics using “tidy” single-pin nets for power symbols and I/O port symbols? By “tidy”, I mean that the completely unnecessary “:1” should not be shown on the schematic. I try to name my power nets with

Re: gEDA-user: gschem: net attribute for power I/O, clean appearance? (no “:1”)

2011-03-09 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Tue, 8 Mar 2011 18:41:59 -0600 Mark Rages wrote: > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Colin D Bennett > wrote: > > Hidden option 3: Make gschem assume “:1” for ‘net’ attribute values > > without a “:N” suffix. > > This has been proposed by several users, including me

Re: gEDA-user: Skip DRC on "outline" layer

2011-03-11 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 02:32:06 +0100 Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Kovacs Levente wrote: > > > However, it is not a good idea to place vias close to the edge of > > the board. > Sometimes it may even be desired > to have a plated hole on the center of the outline. The result is > a metalized cylindri

Re: gEDA-user: Attribute Net (without pin assignment) - for Power and Port Symbols

2011-04-14 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 22:41:23 +0100 Peter Clifton wrote: > On Wed, 2011-04-13 at 22:26 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: > > > pin[pinnumber=1] { > > pinnumber="99"; > > } > > And regarding stuff like the above - where we key off one attribute > and change it in the rule, IF that is ever legal - w

Re: gEDA-user: Parallel Installation of Stable and Unstable gEDA Version

2011-04-14 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 08:59:06 +0100 Peter Clifton wrote: > Beware that pcb and geda only play nice when installed into the same > prefix, so you will want to install PCB into both places you install > gEDA. Perhaps some kind of symlink to switch between installed > versions into one path would als

Re: gEDA-user: Out and In symbols in gschem & getting net names to come out in PCB

2011-05-02 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Mon, 02 May 2011 01:49:57 +0100 Peter Clifton wrote: > On Sun, 2011-05-01 at 19:23 -0500, David W. Schultz wrote: > > On 05/01/2011 07:01 PM, Stephen Ecob wrote: > > > Are there any gschem oldtimers around who can explain the > > > rational for the :1 requirement ? > > > If there's no good rea

Re: gEDA-user: How can i edit the coordinate grid?

2011-05-05 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Thu, 5 May 2011 11:44:06 +0200 Jonas Stein wrote: > Date File and Folio is not well aligned in my coordinate grid. > Author fits well. > > How can i change the position? > > It looks like this here: > > | Author:|File: > |Date: |Folio: 1/1 It sounds you are talking about the gsc

Re: gEDA-user: Where is pcb-20100929 for Win32 ?

2011-05-06 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Fri, 6 May 2011 12:28:33 +0200 Duncan Drennan wrote: > > I am sorry for the delay. I had problems not related to GEDA PCB. > > Here are the links: pcbinst-1.99z - > > http://www.unibytes.com/OuH9OEv9hbYB > > Appears to be working well for me :) Allowing me to add some holes to > polygons to s

gEDA-user: pcb doesn't allow adding a thermal to vias

2011-05-06 Thread Colin D Bennett
I am confused why pcb won't allow me to add a thermal to a via and to a through-hole pin. I am trying to connect these to the ground plane. Clicking the via or pin with the "THRM" tool has no effect. I expect it to add the X connecting the pin/via to the surrounding polygon ground plane. I even

Re: gEDA-user: pcb doesn't allow adding a thermal to vias

2011-05-06 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Fri, 06 May 2011 21:28:51 +0200 (CEST) Vaclav Peroutka wrote: > > > > I am confused why pcb won't allow me to add a thermal to a via and > > to a through-hole pin. I am trying to connect these to the ground > > plane. Clicking the via or pin with the "

Re: gEDA-user: pcb doesn't allow adding a thermal to vias (RESOLVED)

2011-05-06 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Fri, 6 May 2011 15:49:27 -0400 DJ Delorie wrote: > For the thermal tool to work, the CURRENT layer needs to be the layer > you want to add the thermal to. > > If your current layer is "component", it won't add a thermal to "gnd" > even if that's the only layer with a polygon on it. DJ, Prob

Re: gEDA-user: pcb doesn't allow adding a thermal to vias

2011-05-06 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Fri, 6 May 2011 12:24:48 -0700 Andrew Poelstra wrote: > On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 11:54:41AM -0700, Colin D Bennett wrote: > > I am confused why pcb won't allow me to add a thermal to a via and > > to a through-hole pin. I am trying to connect these to the ground > >

gEDA-user: pcb: polygon hole tool

2011-05-06 Thread Colin D Bennett
How does the polygon hole tool work? I am trying to make a hole in my ground plane polygon. So I made the ground plane layer active, and made sure that the ground plane polygon is unlocked. Then I click the HOLE tool and click four points to define a perfect square. However, nothing happens --

Re: gEDA-user: Stuck on magnetic nets

2011-05-08 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Sun, 8 May 2011 13:57:33 -0700 Mike Bushroe wrote: > I just started up again using gschem after a long break, and was > surprised to see a new feature called magnet net. I general, it was > great, but it also caused problems. I started with probably an > undersized title block, and the page r

gEDA-user: pcb: strategies for 2-layer polygon planes? (chopped up polygons...)

2011-05-10 Thread Colin D Bennett
I tried to use a nice big ground plane floods on my 2-layer PCB design to provide a low impedance ground and to implement the reference design for the RF IC (Atmel AT86RF231) and PCB antenna designs I was using. I know you can't have a perfect ground plane on a 2-layer board when you are routing t

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