gEDA-user: Help - please

2007-02-24 Thread Harold D. Skank
People, I need some help here. I'm trying to work with _LARGE_ symbols and footprints. In the smaller case, over 1100 pins and in the larger case over 1700 pins. In order to make the information more readable, I have broken the symbols into slots, 4 in the smaller case and 6 in the larger case.

Re: gEDA-user: making footprint gifs

2007-02-24 Thread John Luciani
On 2/23/07, Dan McMahill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: John Luciani wrote: > On 2/23/07, Marc Moreau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> well Primarily: Ping Luciani. >> >> How did you make all the gifs of your footprints? Is it a script to >> do it automagickly, or is it part of PCB? > > > I have a sc

Re: gEDA-user: New gEDA Suite CD test release available

2007-02-24 Thread Stuart Brorson
The installer worked fine on Fedora Core 5 x86_64.I don't install from a CD but copy the contents to a directory on the hardrive and install from there. Ray Warren Thank you! I'll move the .iso over to seul.org shortly since most reports were positive _

Re: gEDA-user: Help - please

2007-02-24 Thread Stuart Brorson
Harold, To run gsch2pcb I have created a project1 file in which I can tell the system which schematic pages to process (1 symbol slot per page). If I process only 1 or 2 pages, i.e. 1 or 2 slots, the system functions correctly and I can enter PCB and pull up the footprint and view the associate

Re: gEDA-user: gsch2pcb problems - I think!

2007-02-24 Thread Dan McMahill
Harold D. Skank wrote: People, I just created a 4-slot symbol and associated 1153 pin footprint for a Xilinx element that I need to route. This morning I set out to test these elements to see if they worked together OK. Well - I created a dummy schematic composed of the 4 slot elements, and c

Re: gEDA-user: Help - please

2007-02-24 Thread Dan McMahill
Stuart Brorson wrote: It's just a blind shot in the dark, but here's a possibility. I took two minutes to look through the gsch2pcb.c code, which lives in utils/src. There are a number of places where a 1024 byte character buffer is created at the beginning of a function, like this: add_elem

Re: gEDA-user: PCB Element for a Molex 71661-2068?

2007-02-24 Thread Steve Morss
Ben, Thanks for the feedback. I didn't know about that pinout - I didn't see it in the first document you sent, but I saw it in the second. Anyway, I 've been working on a tool for doing footprints more easily, and your part looked different from the ones I've been doing, so I thought I'd t

Re: gEDA-user: Help - please

2007-02-24 Thread Ales Hvezda
Harold, >> People, >> >> I need some help here. I'm trying to work with _LARGE_ symbols and >> footprints. In the smaller case, over 1100 pins and in the larger case [snip] > >Can you send me a test case that I can run? It is quite possible that As I responded yesterday: http://archives.seu

Re: gEDA-user: Help - please

2007-02-24 Thread Dan McMahill
Harold D. Skank wrote: People, I need some help here. I'm trying to work with _LARGE_ symbols and footprints. In the smaller case, over 1100 pins and in the larger case over 1700 pins. In order to make the information more readable, I have broken the symbols into slots, 4 in the smaller case

Re: gEDA-user: making footprint gifs

2007-02-24 Thread Marc Moreau
On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 08:26:19 -0500 "John Luciani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2/23/07, Dan McMahill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > John Luciani wrote: > > > On 2/23/07, Marc Moreau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >> well Primarily: Ping Luciani. > > >> > > >> How did you make all the gifs

Re: gEDA-user: Help - please

2007-02-24 Thread Stuart Brorson
no, I'm pretty certain (95%) that it is not gsch2pcb causing the problem. It is almost certainly gnetlist. gnetlist -g PCB -o myfile.net mysch1.sch mysch2.sch ... Fair enough. In the backend gnet-PCB.scm, this fcn: (define (PCB:display-connections nets) (apply format #f "~:@{~A-~A ~

Re: gEDA-user: making footprint gifs

2007-02-24 Thread John Griessen
Dan McMahill wrote: DJ Delorie wrote: I was just thinking "teach pcb to load elements directly". Then you can export them wit the EPS hid. that would be convenient. A path to do that could be load element to the buffer...the reverse of what we already have... I like all the talk lately

Re: gEDA-user: making footprint gifs

2007-02-24 Thread John Griessen
DJ Delorie wrote: Ok, done. $ pcb -x eps --eps-scale 8 --eps-file r8c-ssop20.eps r8c-ssop20.fp Nice. much more utile than "load to buffer"! Thanks DJ, John Griessen ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bi

Re: gEDA-user: Help - please

2007-02-24 Thread John Griessen
Harold D. Skank wrote: People, I need some help here. I'm trying to work with _LARGE_ symbols and footprints.. . . . Help would be greatly appreciated. This is an important project and further delays would cause serious problems. Steve Meier works with large FPGA symbols and probably has a

Re: gEDA-user: Help - please

2007-02-24 Thread Stuart Brorson
On Sat, 24 Feb 2007, Harold D. Skank wrote: In order to make the information more readable, I have broken the symbols into slots, 4 in the smaller case and 6 in the larger case. Since none of the slots within a symbol share any common pins, I have deleted the slotdef attribute from the symbols.

Re: gEDA-user: gsch2pcb problems - I think!

2007-02-24 Thread Richard Balogh
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Re: gEDA-user: Help - please

2007-02-24 Thread Harold D. Skank
Stuart, That was pretty much my starting point, with the same results. Thanks for the information though, as in thinking about the problem, I wasn't certain just what the various slot attributes were contributing, given that there were no common pins among the *.sym elements. Harold Skank O

Re: gEDA-user: gsch2pcb problems - I think!

2007-02-24 Thread Dan McMahill
Harold D. Skank wrote: Dan & Co. I have attached all the files revelant to this problem below, i.e. the pcb footprint, the *.sym files from gEDA, the schematic and project files and a copy of the error output from the gsch2pcb command. I VERY much appreciate any assistance on this problem. Whi

Re: gEDA-user: gsch2pcb problems - I think!

2007-02-24 Thread Harold D. Skank
Dan, Sorry, I inadvertently sent you a copy of project1 using only 2 of the symbol slots, Test_2.sch and Test_3.sch. I can run that version correctly as well. I expect you will see a failure if you add Test_1.sch to the project1 file. I'm attaching an altered copy of project1 below. Harold

Re: gEDA-user: gsch2pcb problems - I think!

2007-02-24 Thread Dan McMahill
Harold D. Skank wrote: Dan, Sorry, I inadvertently sent you a copy of project1 using only 2 of the symbol slots, Test_2.sch and Test_3.sch. I can run that version correctly as well. I expect you will see a failure if you add Test_1.sch to the project1 file. I'm attaching an altered copy of pr

Re: gEDA-user: gsch2pcb problems - I think!

2007-02-24 Thread Harold D. Skank
Dan, Comments inserted below. Harold Skank On Sat, 2007-02-24 at 15:04 -0500, Dan McMahill wrote: > Harold D. Skank wrote: > > Dan, > > > > Sorry, I inadvertently sent you a copy of project1 using only 2 of the > > symbol slots, Test_2.sch and Test_3.sch. I can run that version > > correct

gEDA-user: Making gsch2pcb prefer files vs m4?

2007-02-24 Thread Ben Jackson
I have jcl's library installed. If I specify a package name that appears many places, like 0805, I get the m4 one from gsch2pcb. Similarly for SO16W. If I specify a name that's unique, like DIP-18-300, then it will find the file and use it. How can I set the search order to prefer a particular

Re: gEDA-user: gsch2pcb problems - I think!

2007-02-24 Thread Stuart Brorson
Harold, The bad news for you is that I was able to successfully run gsch2pcb on your file. So both Dan and I had no problem with your design files. Here's another thought. Your error is: FORMAT: error with call: (format #f "~:@{~A-~A ~} <===" ("U1" "G29") ("U1" "G34") ("U1" "G9") ("U1" "H1")

Re: gEDA-user: New gEDA Suite CD test release available

2007-02-24 Thread Ray Warren
On Fri, Feb 23, 2007 at 06:38:03AM -0500, Stuart Brorson wrote: > gEDA users -- > > Following the releases of PCB and gEDA/gaf, I have created a new > version of the gEDA Suite install CD. For now, it lives on my > website: > > http://www.brorson.com/gEDA/ > > Later, after some testing, I will

Re: gEDA-user: Making gsch2pcb prefer files vs m4?

2007-02-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ben Jackson wrote: I have jcl's library installed. You can also install jcl's sch2pcb, specifying the directory and _file_ footprints. Save a text file as sch2pcb in your project directory and just ./sch2pcb project to get it to run. It should be something like what's below, changing fo

Re: gEDA-user: Making gsch2pcb prefer files vs m4?

2007-02-24 Thread Dan McMahill
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ben Jackson wrote: I have jcl's library installed. You can also install jcl's sch2pcb, specifying the directory and _file_ footprints. Save a text file as sch2pcb in your project directory and just ./sch2pcb project to get it to run. It should be something lik

Re: gEDA-user: gsch2pcb problems - I think!

2007-02-24 Thread Dan McMahill
Stuart Brorson wrote: Harold, The bad news for you is that I was able to successfully run gsch2pcb on your file. So both Dan and I had no problem with your design files. Here's another thought. Your error is: FORMAT: error with call: (format #f "~:@{~A-~A ~} <===" ("U1" "G29") ("U1" "G34") (

gEDA-user: PCB slowdown?

2007-02-24 Thread Ben Jackson
I just pulled up Darrel Harmon's single board computer to test a plugin I'm working on. I'm on the latest PCB CVS, minus a day or so. It takes my computer about 4 seconds to redraw if you can see the whole thing. I went back to 20060822 and it's much faster, essentially no lag for drawing the sam

Re: gEDA-user: PCB slowdown?

2007-02-24 Thread Ben Jackson
On Sat, Feb 24, 2007 at 05:11:36PM -0800, Ben Jackson wrote: > I just pulled up Darrel Harmon's single board computer to test a plugin Sorry, forgot the link: http://dlharmon.com/sbc.html -- Ben Jackson AD7GD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.ben.com/

Re: gEDA-user: PCB Element for a Molex 71661-2068?

2007-02-24 Thread John Luciani
On 2/23/07, Ben Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I need a PCB element for a Molex 71661-2068: http://www.molex.com/product/micro/71661r.html I've placed the Molex 71661 series connectors on my website at http://www.luciani.org/geda/pcb/pcb-footprint-list.html#Connector The silkscreen shou

gEDA-user: Footprint Changes at luciani.org

2007-02-24 Thread John Luciani
* Added CTS resistor networks series 740, 741, 742, 743, 744, 745, 746, * Added Molex EBBI connectors 71661 Series (Option B). See Molex drawing SDA-71661-2*** Rev. M for mounting information. * Fixed the silkscreen on the Molex 68301 header footprints. For the headers with an odd number of p

Re: gEDA-user: PCB slowdown?

2007-02-24 Thread Dan McMahill
Ben Jackson wrote: I just pulled up Darrel Harmon's single board computer to test a plugin I'm working on. I'm on the latest PCB CVS, minus a day or so. It takes my computer about 4 seconds to redraw if you can see the whole thing. I went back to 20060822 and it's much faster, essentially no la

Re: gEDA-user: PCB slowdown?

2007-02-24 Thread Ben Jackson
On Sat, Feb 24, 2007 at 08:27:24PM -0500, Dan McMahill wrote: > > Probably the polygon clipper code. After the initial loading is it > faster to zoom and pan? I thought that might be it, but my recent hacking on autocrop led me to believe that polygons would only be "plowed" when necessary, and

Re: gEDA-user: PCB slowdown?

2007-02-24 Thread DJ Delorie
> Probably the polygon clipper code. After the initial loading is it > faster to zoom and pan? Probably is. If you disable the two inner layer, it's normal speed. If you view just one inner layer, it's slow. > Makes me wonder if polygons in pcb need to have a "poured/unpoured" > state. In t

gEDA-user: A (premature) release of SmartDisperse plugin

2007-02-24 Thread Ben Jackson
My first test board for PCB involved an array of LEDs, and even with just a few components it got really annoying searching for the resistors that went with each LED after the DisperseElements(). My head was filled with grandiose schemes for improving Disperse without turning it into autoplace. I

Re: gEDA-user: A (premature) release of SmartDisperse plugin

2007-02-24 Thread DJ Delorie
> In the spirit of open source I cast this hack upon the waters for > someone else to improve. Ultimately I think the PCB data structures > are so bad, especially from the perspective of a plugin, that a > really good plugin would have to construct a whole new > element/netlist representation int

Re: gEDA-user: gsch2pcb problems - I think!

2007-02-24 Thread Dan McMahill
Dan McMahill wrote: Stuart Brorson wrote: Harold, The bad news for you is that I was able to successfully run gsch2pcb on your file. So both Dan and I had no problem with your design files. and I've now tried gnetlist from 20070216, 20061020, 20050820, and 20040111 with varying guile vers

Re: gEDA-user: PCB slowdown?

2007-02-24 Thread Harry Eaton
--- DJ Delorie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lesstif has a "thindraw polygons" option that does > basically that. > Unfortunately, the clipper makes it useless because > it doesn't know > about the flag, so you see hundreds of polygon slice > outlines. I need > to move all the thindraw stuff to o

Re: gEDA-user: PCB slowdown?

2007-02-24 Thread DJ Delorie
> Line 2046 in draw.c attempts to check for the thindraw flag but it > seems you've moved the thin drawing into the hid (but only for > lesstif). The GTK gui correctly handles thin draw of the polygons, > which make the panning and zooming much faster for the sbc board. Yup, I saw that. That's w

gEDA-user: The amazing Align/Distribute plugin

2007-02-24 Thread Ben Jackson
Ok, having "finished" the smartdisperse plugin, I moved on to phase 2 of my "I'm sick of moving LEDs by hand" master plan. Introducing Align() and Distribute(), which work much like the similarly named functions in Visio. Given that PCB does not have the concept of "first selected object" to draw

Re: gEDA-user: The amazing Align/Distribute plugin

2007-02-24 Thread DJ Delorie
How about a "move element by name to X,Y" action? Then you could write a perl script to generate an action script, and run it to place everything. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-us