Re: gEDA-user: plugins (was: How can you help...)

2011-09-12 Thread DJ Delorie
> IMHO, this should not be plural. That is, a getting started should > decide for one work-flow and stick with it. As John points out, there's more to geda than making circuit boards. So, tutorials for schematics->pcb, schematics->sim, verilog->sim, etc. Then, within each case, beginner vs advanc

Re: gEDA-user: plugins (was: How can you help...)

2011-09-12 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
DJ Delorie wrote: >> I still have to decide, where to start. An overview? A getting >> started? A HOWTO? A table of contents to be filled? > > Based on what kinds of questions I tend to answer in irc and email, I > think the relative priority should be: > > * Introductory tutorials that demonstr

Re: gEDA-user: plugins (was: How can you help...)

2011-09-12 Thread John Doty
On Sep 12, 2011, at 8:05 AM, John Hudak wrote: > So, the doc would have two sections: There's nothing whatever preventing you from creating gEDA documentation and publishing it on your own site (or gedasymbols.org: even us black sheep are accepted there). That's what Stuart Brorson did when

Re: gEDA-user: plugins (was: How can you help...)

2011-09-12 Thread John Hudak
My suggestion is to first create an outline. The first n sections should be in tutorial form, using a small example, and focusing on the main steps, beginning with installation of the tool(s), problem statement (going from schematic to board layout to what needs to shipped to a boar

Re: gEDA-user: plugins (was: How can you help...)

2011-09-12 Thread DJ Delorie
> I still have to decide, where to start. An overview? A getting started? > A HOWTO? A table of contents to be filled? Based on what kinds of questions I tend to answer in irc and email, I think the relative priority should be: * Introductory tutorials that demonstrate the most common flows, s

Re: gEDA-user: plugins (was: How can you help...)

2011-09-12 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Abhijit Kshirsagar wrote: > Somehow missed this thread and replied on the other one... Count me > in for documentation. Please let me know what I can do. I still have to decide, where to start. An overview? A getting started? A HOWTO? A table of contents to be filled? > Some of the documentati

Re: gEDA-user: plugins (was: How can you help...)

2011-09-09 Thread Abhijit Kshirsagar
Hey, Somehow missed this thread and replied on the other one... Count me in for documentation. Please let me know what I can do. Some of the documentation I have written previously is here: gEDA-Tutorials.pdf on https://sites.google.com/site/abhijit86k/linux/geda ~Abhijit On Fri, Sep 9, 201

Re: gEDA-user: plugins (was: How can you help...)

2011-09-09 Thread Vladimir Zhbanov
On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 10:51:31PM +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > I am close to start off a gEDA wikibook (http://en.wikibooks.org). > Would you join the effort? > How about updating the existing wiki documentation? - Gschem User Guide is outdated. - PCB Manual is outdated. - Circuit Simulatio

Re: gEDA-user: plugins (was: How can you help...)

2011-09-07 Thread Dan Roganti
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak <[1]k...@familieknaak.de> wrote: Dan Roganti wrote: > I'll be glad to help anyone in this development group with this > documentation work. I am close to start off a gEDA wikibook ([2]http://en.wikibooks.org). Would yo

Re: gEDA-user: plugins (was: How can you help...)

2011-09-07 Thread Andrew Poelstra
On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 10:51:31PM +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Dan Roganti wrote: > > > I'll be glad to help anyone in this development group with this > > documentation work. > > I am close to start off a gEDA wikibook (http://en.wikibooks.org). > Would you join the effort? > I'd be happy

Re: gEDA-user: plugins (was: How can you help...)

2011-09-07 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Dan Roganti wrote: > I'll be glad to help anyone in this development group with this > documentation work. I am close to start off a gEDA wikibook (http://en.wikibooks.org). Would you join the effort? ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.de http://pool.sks-keyserver

Re: gEDA-user: plugins (was: How can you help...)

2011-09-07 Thread Dan Roganti
On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 12:13 PM, John Griessen <[1]j...@ecosensory.com> wrote: I can see a core set of plugins shipping with the source, but not all. I don't see it as a big deal though, since if a feature is really "core" it will be in the core, so not shipping plug

Re: gEDA-user: plugins (was: How can you help...)

2011-09-06 Thread Bert Timmerman
Hi all, > -Original Message- > From: geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org > [mailto:geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org] On Behalf Of DJ Delorie > Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 2:39 AM > To: geda-u...@seul.org > Subject: Re: gEDA-user: plugins (was: How can you help...)

Re: gEDA-user: plugins (was: How can you help...)

2011-09-06 Thread DJ Delorie
> > https://github.com/bert/pcb-plugins.git > > This URL gives me "404 This is not the web page you are looking for." It works fine once you realize you have to take the .git off to change it from a repository to a web page. Seems a silly detail to me, but that's how it's set up on github. __

Re: gEDA-user: plugins (was: How can you help...)

2011-09-06 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Bert Timmerman wrote: >> Is there even a comprehensive list of plugins that are done >> at a single place? > > https://github.com/bert/pcb-plugins.git This URL gives me "404 This is not the web page you are looking for." :-| ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.de h

Re: gEDA-user: plugins (was: How can you help...)

2011-09-05 Thread Bert Timmerman
Hi Bob, > -Original Message- > From: geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org > [mailto:geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org] On Behalf Of Bob Paddock > Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 2:38 AM > To: gEDA user mailing list > Subject: Re: gEDA-user: plugins (was

Re: gEDA-user: plugins (was: How can you help...)

2011-09-05 Thread Bob Paddock
> Documenting them however is a big deal. Is there even a comprehensive list of plugins that are done at a single place? ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: plugins (was: How can you help...)

2011-09-05 Thread DJ Delorie
> I can see a core set of plugins shipping with the source, but not all. I can see us breaking out some of the core actions into a plugins directory, and importing some public plugins there too. Might be a good way to manage our "library" of actions. > I think it would help a lot if the scheme

gEDA-user: plugins (was: How can you help...)

2011-09-05 Thread John Griessen
On 09/05/2011 09:33 AM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: Also, they tend to bit-rot and break when the main source moves on. That's why they are separate. There is not enough coding/testing man-or-woman-power to pull all conceivable plugins along with core changes. Seems obvious. The ones that are t