Re: gEDA-user: Next step

2010-11-03 Thread Alberto Maccioni
I have done a couple of pcb's this way; the results are good enough; actually it all depends on the quality of your milling machine, mine was not so good so I had some distorsions, but the code itself is right. The exporter takes each copper layer, enlarges the traces to take into account the radiu

Re: gEDA-user: Next step

2010-11-02 Thread Darryl Gibson
John Griessen wrote: > > Wow, that's great! You are talking about milling away copper to make > conductors, right? > As well as drilling holes... Wow is right, I thought you milled the shape of the board, and etched the copper. -- Darryl Gibson N2DIY Linux, free software, for the people, by th

Re: gEDA-user: Next step

2010-11-02 Thread John Griessen
On 11/02/2010 01:50 AM, Markus Hitter wrote: I didn't actually send it to a milling machine yet, but the simulation in EMC2-sim looks fine. Wow, that's great! You are talking about milling away copper to make conductors, right? As well as drilling holes... John Griessen __

Re: gEDA-user: Next step

2010-11-01 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 01.11.2010 um 23:12 schrieb John Griessen: Did you already get circuit prototyping results with that? I didn't actually send it to a milling machine yet, but the simulation in EMC2-sim looks fine. Markus - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dipl. Ing. (FH) Markus Hitter http://www.j

Re: gEDA-user: Next step

2010-11-01 Thread John Griessen
On 11/01/2010 06:52 PM, Matthew Sager wrote: You would have to use a layer as a "milling" layer and then you could draw arbitrary holes and slots. But the question was about milling and drilling CAM SW, so tool paths --> EMC2 and HeeksCAD JG __

Re: gEDA-user: Next step

2010-11-01 Thread Matthew Sager
Am 01.11.2010 um 22:03 schrieb Matthew Sager: if you plan to use the same size bit as the trace width and you just want to mill down the center of the trace. Huh? If you mill down the center of the trace you remove the copper there and get a negative of what you want

Re: gEDA-user: Next step

2010-11-01 Thread John Griessen
On 11/01/2010 04:27 PM, Markus Hitter wrote: Didn't notice the "Enhancements for gEDA/pcb G-code export" thread? Oh yes. It's great that you are working on this. It's just not ready for him to use I though, Is it? Did you already get circuit prototyping results with that? JG __

Re: gEDA-user: Next step

2010-11-01 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 22:27 +0100, Markus Hitter wrote: > > When building pcb from source, you get an G-code exporter, which > produces isolation milling and drilling G-code. > gcode export is available in the 20100929 snapshot, we have it already in the official Gentoo tree (still marked tes

Re: gEDA-user: Next step

2010-11-01 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 01.11.2010 um 22:03 schrieb Matthew Sager: if you plan to use the same size bit as the trace width and you just want to mill down the center of the trace. Huh? If you mill down the center of the trace you remove the copper there and get a negative of what you want. Did I miss something

Re: gEDA-user: Next step

2010-11-01 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 01.11.2010 um 18:52 schrieb John Griessen: only worried about milling and drilling. We've not had anyone with a circuit mill talk here yet that I know. Didn't notice the "Enhancements for gEDA/pcb G-code export" thread? When building pcb from source, you get an G-code exporter, which

Re: gEDA-user: Next step

2010-11-01 Thread Matthew Sager
On 11/01/2010 12:20 PM, Darryl Gibson wrote: Yes, I'd like to mill, drill, stuff, and solder too, but for now I'm only worried about milling and drilling. We've not had anyone with a circuit mill talk here yet that I know. The EMC2 discussion list might be good for that. Als

Re: gEDA-user: Next step

2010-11-01 Thread John Griessen
On 11/01/2010 12:20 PM, Darryl Gibson wrote: Yes, I'd like to mill, drill, stuff, and solder too, but for now I'm only worried about milling and drilling. We've not had anyone with a circuit mill talk here yet that I know. The EMC2 discussion list might be good for that. Also HeeksCAD might b

Re: gEDA-user: Next step

2010-11-01 Thread Darryl Gibson
John Griessen wrote: > On 11/01/2010 07:18 AM, Darryl Gibson wrote: >> If I wanted to do my own fab what CAM software would you recommend? >> > > None usually. Output postscript from pcb, then either make a toner > transfer > print with a laser printer, or print on clear film with an inkjet print

Re: gEDA-user: Next step

2010-11-01 Thread Darryl Gibson
DJ Delorie wrote: >> If I wanted to do my own fab what CAM software would you recommend? > > I do my own fab at home, and just use PCB. Is there something else > you need besides that? Yes, I'd like to mill, drill, stuff, and solder too, but for now I'm only worried about milling and drilling. -

Re: gEDA-user: Next step

2010-11-01 Thread John Griessen
On 11/01/2010 07:18 AM, Darryl Gibson wrote: If I wanted to do my own fab what CAM software would you recommend? None usually. Output postscript from pcb, then either make a toner transfer print with a laser printer, or print on clear film with an inkjet printer to make a mask for exposing ph

Re: gEDA-user: Next step

2010-11-01 Thread DJ Delorie
> If I wanted to do my own fab what CAM software would you recommend? I do my own fab at home, and just use PCB. Is there something else you need besides that? ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/li

gEDA-user: Next step

2010-11-01 Thread Darryl Gibson
If I wanted to do my own fab what CAM software would you recommend? -- Darryl Gibson N2DIY Linux, free software, for the people, by the people. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-use

Re: gEDA-user: Next step questions

2007-02-18 Thread Craig Niederberger
I'm an idiot. export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}:/opt/geda/lib *Many thanks* Peter & Ben for helping me get the CVS version on my Fedora 5 box tonight! I'm now going to pour some vodka and back this puppy up. Again, many thanks, Craig ___ ge

Re: gEDA-user: Next step questions

2007-02-18 Thread Craig Niederberger
*Many thanks*, Peter! export ACLOCAL_FLAGS="-I /usr/local/share/aclocal" did the trick to build and complete without errors. Now for the final (I hope) hair pulling moment, when I issue the command gschem I get /opt/geda/bin/gschem: error while loading shared libraries: libgeda.so.28: canno

Re: gEDA-user: Next step questions

2007-02-18 Thread Peter Clifton
On Sun, 2007-02-18 at 20:39 -0600, Craig Niederberger wrote: > Does anyone know what version of gettext the CVS make for geda/gaf > expects? I'm beginning to think that in updating gettext from 0.14.5 > to 0.16.1 I overshot the mark: > > ./configure: line 7594: AM_GNU_GETTEXT: command not found

Re: gEDA-user: Next step questions

2007-02-18 Thread Peter Clifton
On Sun, 2007-02-18 at 19:57 -0600, Craig Niederberger wrote: > Thanks, Peter! I built and installed gettext 1.8.1, and it went a > little farther. It now errored out at a place which I don't get at > all: > > autogen.sh running: aclocal ... > aclocal:configure.ac:486: warning: macro `AM_GNU_GET

Re: gEDA-user: Next step questions

2007-02-18 Thread Craig Niederberger
Does anyone know what version of gettext the CVS make for geda/gaf expects? I'm beginning to think that in updating gettext from 0.14.5 to 0.16.1 I overshot the mark: ./configure: line 7594: AM_GNU_GETTEXT: command not found ./configure: line 7595: syntax error near unexpected token `0.16.1' ./co

Re: gEDA-user: Next step questions

2007-02-18 Thread Craig Niederberger
Thanks, Peter! I built and installed gettext 1.8.1, and it went a little farther. It now errored out at a place which I don't get at all: autogen.sh running: aclocal ... aclocal:configure.ac:486: warning: macro `AM_GNU_GETTEXT' not found in library aclocal:configure.ac:487: warning: macro `AM_

Re: gEDA-user: Next step questions

2007-02-18 Thread Peter Clifton
On Sun, 2007-02-18 at 19:38 -0600, Craig Niederberger wrote: > Thanks, Ben. I installed guile 1.6.8, and it went a little farther, > then complained that I don't have gettext installed. Weird thing is, > I do. > > **Error**: You must have `gettext' installed. > You can get it from: http://www.gn

Re: gEDA-user: Next step questions

2007-02-18 Thread Craig Niederberger
Thanks, Ben. I installed guile 1.6.8, and it went a little farther, then complained that I don't have gettext installed. Weird thing is, I do. **Error**: You must have `gettext' installed. You can get it from: http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext make: *** [gschem/configure] Error 1 root:~/gedas

Re: gEDA-user: Next step questions

2007-02-18 Thread Peter Clifton
On Sun, 2007-02-18 at 16:59 -0800, Ben Jackson wrote: > On Sun, Feb 18, 2007 at 06:54:18PM -0600, Craig Niederberger wrote: > > OK, so I'm trying to install via CVS geda/gaf. I'm getting this error with > > make install: > > > > checking for guile-config... no > > configure: error: guile-config r

Re: gEDA-user: Next step questions

2007-02-18 Thread Ben Jackson
On Sun, Feb 18, 2007 at 06:54:18PM -0600, Craig Niederberger wrote: > OK, so I'm trying to install via CVS geda/gaf. I'm getting this error with > make install: > > checking for guile-config... no > configure: error: guile-config required but not found > make: *** [libgeda/config.h] Error 1 > >

Re: gEDA-user: Next step questions

2007-02-18 Thread Craig Niederberger
OK, so I'm trying to install via CVS geda/gaf. I'm getting this error with make install: checking for guile-config... no configure: error: guile-config required but not found make: *** [libgeda/config.h] Error 1 # guile --version Guile 1.6.7 I read on a previous post by Stuart Sept 2005: Any

Re: gEDA-user: Next step questions

2007-02-16 Thread Craig Niederberger
I'm so sorry, you sure did, and they look *great*. I can hardly wait to give them a spin! Again, many thanks for the help, and many thanks for making beautiful PCB design and fabrication a reality for someone with just a linux box sitting in a small apartment without even a garage!! Thanks, Crai

Re: gEDA-user: Next step questions

2007-02-16 Thread DJ Delorie
> For pcb, the cvs instructions on that page are pretty generic cvs > instructions. Anything special for pcb? Will a standard make after the > download do? I just posted instructions about an hour ago... ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.se

Re: gEDA-user: Next step questions

2007-02-16 Thread Craig Niederberger
*Many, many* thanks! For geda/gaf, the instructions are pretty clear. The only question I have is what I should set in Fedora for the environment variables PATH, LD_LIBRARY_PATH, and PKG_CONFIG_PATH. For pcb, the cvs instructions on that page are pretty generic cvs instructions. Anything speci

Re: gEDA-user: Next step questions

2007-02-16 Thread Stuart Brorson
Beware that --enable-doc is the default, but will fail without --enable-maintainer-mode (which makes some of the needed images). So choose one of --disable-doc or --enable-maintainer-mode --enable-doc Otherwise the make will fail in the doc which interferes with make install.

Re: gEDA-user: Next step questions

2007-02-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Harry Eaton wrote: DJ's optimizer might be able to automatically remove the nubbins. The optimizer as its included with the stock PCB version 20060822 is pretty good at removing these nubs. I autorouted a board the other day and there was only one nubbin that wouldn't go away with the opti

Re: gEDA-user: Next step questions

2007-02-16 Thread Ben Jackson
On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 01:33:02PM -0500, DJ Delorie wrote: > [other configure options, type "./configure --help" to see them all: > --enable-doc to build documenatation > --enable-maintainer-modeto rebuild docs from sources] Beware that --enable-doc is the default, but will fail w

Re: gEDA-user: Next step questions

2007-02-16 Thread DJ Delorie
For pcb, just: cvs -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/pcb login (hit entery for password) cvs -z3 -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/pcb co -P pcb cd pcb ./configure --prefix=/opt/geda --with-gui=lesstif or ./configure --prefix=/opt/geda --with-gui=gtk [other configure options, type "./

Re: gEDA-user: Next step questions

2007-02-16 Thread Stuart Brorson
Don't use the CD yet. I haven't updated it, and I won't update it until Ales does the next release. Your best bet is to learn how to install from CVS. It's not hard. Here are instructions for gEDA/gaf: http://geda.seul.org/developer.html and for PCB: http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=737

Re: gEDA-user: Next step questions

2007-02-16 Thread Craig Niederberger
Thanks super. I intend to yum remove geda-* and pcb-* and then install the latest version. What's the best way to do that? Get the iso from http://www.geda.seul.org/download.html? That's what I did last time before installing with yum. Is there an easier or better way? Not sure how to use CV

Re: gEDA-user: Next step questions

2007-02-16 Thread DJ Delorie
> Thanks super. I had gone to the yum install, as when I originally > built and installed gEDA I could only get it to work in my home > directory (didn't seem to like the Fedora setup). Is this newer > build easier to install system wide on Fedora? Any pointers? I install both geda and pcb in

Re: gEDA-user: Next step questions

2007-02-16 Thread Craig Niederberger
Thanks super. I had gone to the yum install, as when I originally built and installed gEDA I could only get it to work in my home directory (didn't seem to like the Fedora setup). Is this newer build easier to install system wide on Fedora? Any pointers? Again, thanks, Craig On 2/16/07, DJ Del

Re: gEDA-user: Next step questions

2007-02-16 Thread DJ Delorie
> Thanks super, John, DJ & Harry! Question: during my last install, I > just used yum on Fedora to install gEDA. Would the December changes > appear on a yum update? Probably not; the last snapshot was just a week ago, and the previous one was August. > If not, can I just overwrite my current

Re: gEDA-user: Next step questions

2007-02-16 Thread Craig Niederberger
Thanks super, John, DJ & Harry! Question: during my last install, I just used yum on Fedora to install gEDA. Would the December changes appear on a yum update? If not, can I just overwrite my current pcb executable with that from the current snapshot, or is there more to do? Many, many thanks,

Re: gEDA-user: Next step questions

2007-02-16 Thread Harry Eaton
--- Craig Niederberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1. Is it possible when autorouting traces in PCB to > have some automatically > set to one set of thicknesses, drill hole sizes, > etc. and others > automatically set to another set of thicknesses, > drill hole sizes, etc? Or > must I always s

Re: gEDA-user: Next step questions

2007-02-15 Thread DJ Delorie
> Well, my PCB arrived in the mail a short while ago. I soldered in > the components, and everything works beautifully. Yay! Mine's in fab now. > 1. Is it possible when autorouting traces in PCB to have some > automatically set to one set of thicknesses, drill hole sizes, > etc. and others aut

Re: gEDA-user: Next step questions

2007-02-15 Thread John Luciani
On 2/15/07, Craig Niederberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi gEDA gurus, 3. In my next PCB, I need to add surface mount components. I've noticed that some part data sheets spec out the pad sizes, but many don't--they just spec out the part feet. Are there good general rules for making SMT pa

gEDA-user: Next step questions

2007-02-15 Thread Craig Niederberger
Hi gEDA gurus, Well, my PCB arrived in the mail a short while ago. I soldered in the components, and everything works beautifully. *Many thanks* for those who helped me with my questions from design to fabrication. For those who are interested, a blog of robot #3's brain can be found at http:/