My 2 cents.
I use to convert pdf files to svg through Makefiles. I don't remember
the app I use for it offhand but can look if anyone is interested
(it's all free software, other than inkscape).
I also usually produce schematics in pdf with logos, barcodes, and
vital data (date, project, etc). I
Am 11.04.2011 um 23:34 schrieb Peter Clifton:
Inkscape. I don't think there is
anything available which is remotely comparable which doesn't cost
serious money.
Scribus/ScribusNG. Better suited for desktop publishing and not so
CorelDraw-like. But that's off topic :-)
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If anybody's interested there's a lot of info on previous attempts to
produce standards based EDA formats here;
http://xml.coverpages.org/xmlAndEDA.html
this is probably old hat to many of you!
My assessment is;
1. They tried to cover way too much in one go with edaXML, PCB's, MCM,
fat symbols,
On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 03:52 +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:
> Steven Michalske wrote:
>
> >> Microsoft and Apple do not like
> >>
> >>
> > Safari has supported SVG for a while now? Why doesn't apple like SVG?
>
> Sorry, I got confused by Apples dislike of flash.
OT: Now there is a POV I can g
Steven Michalske wrote:
>> Microsoft and Apple do not like
>>
>>
> Safari has supported SVG for a while now? Why doesn't apple like SVG?
Sorry, I got confused by Apples dislike of flash.
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On Apr 12, 2011, at 2:55 AM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:
> Peter Clifton wrote:
>
>> TBH, I've not seen SVG anywhere on the main-stream internet.
>
> Wikipedia prefers SVG for anything that is not a photograph. The servers
> render SVG graphics to PNG as needed before handing it out to the bro
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:43:08PM +0100, Peter Clifton wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-04-11 at 12:37 -0700, Larry Doolittle wrote:
> > Surely you can convert SVG to EPS, which TeX/LaTeX happily embed.
> > http://sk1project.org/modules.php?name=Products&product=uniconvertor
> I use pdfLaTeX with LyX almost
On Mon, 2011-04-11 at 12:37 -0700, Larry Doolittle wrote:
> Surely you can convert SVG to EPS, which TeX/LaTeX happily embed.
>
> Looks like UniConvertor/sK1 is the usual Free tool to script that
> conversion. Would it make any sense to leverage that software base,
> and add Gerber or native gED
On Mon, 2011-04-11 at 20:12 +0100, Andrew Seddon wrote:
> > TBH, I've not seen SVG anywhere on the main-stream internet. Linux
> > desktops use SVG a lot for desktop graphics, but it really isn't as
> > prevalent as it should be.
>
> The latest version of every major Desktop/Mobile browser's suppo
On Mon, 2011-04-11 at 20:55 +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:
> Peter Clifton wrote:
> > What excuse is there for OpenOffice / LibreOffice being so appallingly
> > bad at working with SVG files?
>
> Actually, SVG import is among the first features of libreoffice beyond
> openoffice:
> http://www.li
On Mon, 2011-04-11 at 07:50 -0400, Ethan Swint wrote:
> On 04/10/2011 04:55 PM, Andrew Seddon wrote:
> > I am exploring the idea of using the Scalable Vector Graphics standard
> > as an EDA format.
> >
> > https://github.com/seddona/svgparts
> >
> > Would be interested in your thoughts, there's a l
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 08:55:12PM +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:
> Peter Clifton wrote:
>
> > TBH, I've not seen SVG anywhere on the main-stream internet.
>
> Wikipedia prefers SVG for anything that is not a photograph. The servers
> render SVG graphics to PNG as needed before handing it out to
> TBH, I've not seen SVG anywhere on the main-stream internet. Linux
> desktops use SVG a lot for desktop graphics, but it really isn't as
> prevalent as it should be.
The latest version of every major Desktop/Mobile browser's support is
good enough for what we want to do. Support across the web (
Peter Clifton wrote:
> TBH, I've not seen SVG anywhere on the main-stream internet.
Wikipedia prefers SVG for anything that is not a photograph. The servers
render SVG graphics to PNG as needed before handing it out to the browser.
> Linux
> desktops use SVG a lot for desktop graphics, but it r
On Mon, 2011-04-11 at 18:14 +0100, Andrew Seddon wrote:
> I think EDIF pretty much died, no party had a vested interest in
> making it work and the standard is a bloated mess.
>
> SVG represents a real opportunity to piggy back on the much more
> dominant force of the interwebs.
TBH, I've not see
On Mon, 2011-04-11 at 18:14 +0100, Andrew Seddon wrote:
> I think EDIF pretty much died, no party had a vested interest in
> making it work and the standard is a bloated mess.
>
> SVG represents a real opportunity to piggy back on the much more
> dominant force of the interwebs.
TBH, I've not see
I think EDIF pretty much died, no party had a vested interest in
making it work and the standard is a bloated mess.
SVG represents a real opportunity to piggy back on the much more
dominant force of the interwebs.
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Steven Michalske wrote:
> This is what I see as a
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 12:28 AM, Stefan Salewski wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-04-11 at 23:18 +0800, Steven Michalske wrote:
>> This is what I see as a benefit. If you go to a vendor's website you
>> will find one or two EDA footprint and symbol files. But nothing that
>> was a bell ringer for commonali
On Mon, 2011-04-11 at 23:18 +0800, Steven Michalske wrote:
> This is what I see as a benefit. If you go to a vendor's website you
> will find one or two EDA footprint and symbol files. But nothing that
> was a bell ringer for commonality. It would be nice to have a
> universal starting point.
>
This is what I see as a benefit. If you go to a vendor's website you
will find one or two EDA footprint and symbol files. But nothing that
was a bell ringer for commonality. It would be nice to have a
universal starting point.
There is EDIF but I see EDIF as not being so useful, i think they
tri
Peter Clifton writes:
> On Mon, 2011-04-11 at 13:05 +0100, Andrew Seddon wrote:
>
>> 1. Be translated to common EDA formats with relatively simple algorithms
>> 2. Display nicely on standard SVG viewers
>> 3. Be easily to manipulate by tools working natively in the format
>> (this is probably imp
> On Sun, 2011-04-10 at 21:55 +0100, Andrew Seddon wrote:
>> I am exploring the idea of using the Scalable Vector Graphics standard
>> as an EDA format.
>>
>> https://github.com/seddona/svgparts
>>
>> Would be interested in your thoughts, there's a little more
>> explanation on my blog.
>>
>
> What
On Sun, 2011-04-10 at 21:55 +0100, Andrew Seddon wrote:
> I am exploring the idea of using the Scalable Vector Graphics standard
> as an EDA format.
>
> https://github.com/seddona/svgparts
>
> Would be interested in your thoughts, there's a little more
> explanation on my blog.
>
What would be
Yeah I think allowing a file to be saved by a general purpose tool
will be really tricky, as we'd have to account for everything that
might happen. Inkscape does weird stuff to SVG's even if you just open
and save straight away.
I dont really think that mode of operation is super useful anyway. I
On Mon, 2011-04-11 at 13:05 +0100, Andrew Seddon wrote:
> 1. Be translated to common EDA formats with relatively simple algorithms
> 2. Display nicely on standard SVG viewers
> 3. Be easily to manipulate by tools working natively in the format
> (this is probably implicit in 1 though)
>
> Keen to
> $ firefox symbol.svg
>
> renders a familiar looking symbol on my debian linux machine.
>
> So, are you thinking of making a translation in and out of gschem for all the
> attributes
> a full symbol needs? Embedding the attribs in the SVG?
>
> Then being able to morph the visual shape of a symbo
> The idea of basing future formats on SVG has been thought of, floated,
> and discussed before now. I don't recall whether any conclusions were
> reached. I personally have mixed feelings, but am leaning towards the
> the thought that it is a good idea - but with a healthy dose of
> uneasiness abo
On 04/10/2011 04:55 PM, Andrew Seddon wrote:
I am exploring the idea of using the Scalable Vector Graphics standard
as an EDA format.
https://github.com/seddona/svgparts
Would be interested in your thoughts, there's a little more
explanation on my blog.
You might want to check out Fritzing (fr
> $ firefox symbol.svg
>
> renders a familiar looking symbol on my debian linux machine.
>
> So, are you thinking of making a translation in and out of gschem for all the
> attributes
> a full symbol needs? Embedding the attribs in the SVG?
>
> Then being able to morph the visual shape of a symbo
On Apr 11, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Peter Clifton <[1]pc...@cam.ac.uk> wrote:
On Sun, 2011-04-10 at 21:55 +0100, Andrew Seddon wrote:
I am exploring the idea of using the Scalable Vector Graphics
standard
as an EDA format.
[2]https://github.com/seddona/svgparts
Would be
On 04/10/2011 07:51 PM, Peter Clifton wrote:
Supporting complex geometry primitives which SVG would bring also means
internal processing in PCB might get more difficult.
And then the ones using external programs to create such data could do the
changes
to pcb to allow it to parse those data...
On Sun, 2011-04-10 at 21:55 +0100, Andrew Seddon wrote:
> I am exploring the idea of using the Scalable Vector Graphics standard
> as an EDA format.
>
> https://github.com/seddona/svgparts
>
> Would be interested in your thoughts, there's a little more
> explanation on my blog.
>
> p.s this is p
On 04/10/2011 03:55 PM, Andrew Seddon wrote:
I am exploring the idea of using the Scalable Vector Graphics standard
as an EDA format.
$ firefox symbol.svg
renders a familiar looking symbol on my debian linux machine.
So, are you thinking of making a translation in and out of gschem for all th
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