Re: gEDA-user: verilog -> gschem

2011-07-08 Thread frank
> Original Message > Subject: Re: gEDA-user: verilog -> gschem > From: Steven Michalske > Date: Fri, July 08, 2011 1:46 pm > To: gEDA user mailing list > Will the gentlest backend for verilog accept symbols with the source > attribute set, like hierarchy symbols, but > making

Re: gEDA-user: verilog -> gschem

2011-07-08 Thread frank
> Original Message > Subject: Re: gEDA-user: verilog -> gschem > From: Ouabache Designworks > Date: Fri, July 08, 2011 9:43 am > To: geda-user@moria.seul.org > > > The only difference between that and and PCB layout program is that you > don't care about trace width and you can

Re: gEDA-user: verilog -> gschem

2011-07-08 Thread frank
> Original Message > Subject: Re: gEDA-user: verilog -> gschem > From: John Griessen > Date: Fri, July 08, 2011 9:27 am > To: gEDA user mailing list > > On 07/07/11 17:31, fr...@frankthomson.net wrote: >> I just need to get it into gschem format to run through >> gnetlist to a

gEDA-user: verilog -> gschem

2011-07-07 Thread frank
p in the process requires running the design through gnetlist but since gnetlist only reads gschem files as input I need to get the verilog files to gschem to feed gnetlist. -Frank ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www

Re: gEDA-user: gnetlist backend

2011-06-10 Thread frank
n. I'll take a look at the spice-sdb backend and also at your gEDA fork. Since you are also doing IC work, if you happen to know of an open source detail or maze router please let me know. -Frank ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: gnetlist backend

2011-06-09 Thread Frank Thomson
r as I know they haven't made it to the >official documentation. Yes, I found that a day ago and it was very helpful, appreciate you having posted it. -Frank ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.

gEDA-user: gnetlist backend

2011-06-09 Thread frank
I'm working on a backend for gnetlist and have a minor problem, the top level schematic has IPAD/OPAD/IOPADs that i need to list in the netlist but I can't find a way to directly address the top level schematic, it doesn't seem to have a uref I can use to reference it. It does have a

gEDA-user: hiding an element's silk in pcb?

2011-01-13 Thread Frank
I know you can select an element and hide it's refdes with 'h'. Is there a way to hide all of the silk of an element? ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: prohibited areas on data sheet?

2011-01-05 Thread Frank
On Jan 5, 2011, at 5:51 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Frank wrote: > >> I'm creating a footprint according to the datasheet, and it has 3 >> different prohibited areas on the footprint. I'm not sure of the >> exact meaning of these areas. Can someone explai

gEDA-user: prohibited areas on data sheet?

2011-01-05 Thread Frank
I'm creating a footprint according to the datasheet, and it has 3 different prohibited areas on the footprint. I'm not sure of the exact meaning of these areas. Can someone explain? 1) Prohibited Area 2) Pattern Prohibition Area 2) Solder Prohibition Area

gEDA-user: rotate refdes in pcb?

2010-12-25 Thread Frank
. Moving it is not a problem. How can I rotate it? Thanks, Frank ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Random thoughts on the future interface of PCB

2010-12-14 Thread Frank Bergmann
can be compiled with mingw-cross (http://mingw-cross-env.nongnu.org/). It's usable but lacks some features you have to disable at compile time and run slow on win32. Frank. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.or

Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL Testers (please test)

2010-11-15 Thread Frank Bergmann
Am 11.11.2010 00:13, schrieb Peter Clifton: On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 21:34 +0100, Frank Bergmann wrote: You find the backtrace at http://www.frajasalo.de/frank/projekt/pcb/gdb-pcb.local_customisation_no_pours-backtrace-20101110-1.txt I hope it will help, even without the debugging symbols in

Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL Testers (please test)

2010-11-11 Thread Frank Bergmann
://www.frajasalo.de/frank/projekt/pcb/pcb.local_customisation_no_pours-20101110_amd4core.png The pixel shader which draws the rounded line ends (and vias / holes etc..) isn't working. Your hardware might not support that GL extension, I misread.. the card isn't that old.. but Debian stable i

Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL Testers (please test)

2010-11-11 Thread Frank Bergmann
On 11.11.2010 00:13, Peter Clifton wrote: On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 21:34 +0100, Frank Bergmann wrote: And on my Intel system I have disturbances comming like rays from the middle of the viewport/drawing area, see: http://www.frajasalo.de/frank/projekt/pcb/pcb.local_customisation_no_pours

Re: gEDA-user: Problems compiling PCB Release 20100929

2010-11-10 Thread Frank Bergmann
On 10.11.2010 23:17, DJ Delorie wrote: gdlib-config is part of the GD library available from www.boutell.com/gd. or install the gd and gd-devel packages. for ubuntu you find it in libgd2-(no)xpm-dev package ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@

Re: gEDA-user: Problems compiling PCB Release 20100929

2010-11-10 Thread Frank Bergmann
On 10.11.2010 21:36, DJ Delorie wrote: Try ./configure --disable-dbus or try installing package libdbus-1-dev ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL Testers (please test)

2010-11-10 Thread Frank Bergmann
fer mapped whilst I'm glClear'ing. (Although it should not care!). You find the backtrace at http://www.frajasalo.de/frank/projekt/pcb/gdb-pcb.local_customisation_no_pours-backtrace-20101110-1.txt I hope it will help, even without the debugging symbols in the system stuff. In my former te

Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL Testers (please test)

2010-11-09 Thread Frank Bergmann
false; will give you mapping with use_vbo, or arrays without. Sorry, I can not find any appearance of "buffer->use_map" or even "use_map" in your latest local_customisation_no_pours branch. Shall I use an other branch? Or

Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL Testers (please test)

2010-11-06 Thread Frank Bergmann
ivers. The cards are not well supported by proprietary drivers at installation time. Segmentation fault happens in hidgl_clean_unassigned_stencil() (hid/common/hidgl.c:1069) and backtrace goes into /usr/lib/dri/r300_dri.so, so maybe its a problem in the drive

Re: gEDA-user: coordinate systems [was: pcb crooked traces]

2010-10-13 Thread Frank Bergmann
On 12.10.2010 22:37, Andrew Poelstra wrote: What does "lefthanded coordinate system" mean? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartesian_coordinate_system#In_two_dimensions ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/

Re: gEDA-user: next PCB release - 1.99za vs 4.0

2010-09-14 Thread Frank Bergmann
d the silk and paste (for this board only smt parts had paste layer) layer to it. Now I got errors if I placed parts in the soldering tracks. Copper are allowed because it was covered by solder mask.) Frank. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@mori

Re: gEDA-user: next PCB release - 1.99za vs 4.0

2010-09-09 Thread Frank Bergmann
aps a step to far (or too early). There are probably other more useful refactors, such as making a layer-selector widget, route-style selector widget etc., and defining clean interfaces with those. ... command entry widget with history and auto completion ...

Re: gEDA-user: next PCB release - 1.99za vs 4.0

2010-09-09 Thread Frank Bergmann
ata (http://library.gnome.org/devel/gobject/stable/gobject-The-Base-Object-Type.html#g-object-get-data)? Maybe this can help putting some of the global variables in the main window. Frank. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.o

Re: gEDA-user: next PCB release - 1.99za vs 4.0

2010-09-08 Thread Frank Bergmann
.org/devel/gdl/stable/) for this feature. Maybe GDL will be longer available :) Frank. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: next PCB release - 1.99za vs 4.0

2010-09-08 Thread Frank Bergmann
nd if necessary. I guess the terms you want to understand are mostly relevant for writing new/own widgets. Frank. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: next PCB release - 1.99za vs 4.0

2010-09-08 Thread Frank Bergmann
Am 08.09.2010 03:31, schrieb DJ Delorie: Editing *anything* with two editors (any kind of editors) at the same time IS BAD, unless both are explicitly designed to work together that way. Yes, multiple users/instances can work on the same layout simultaneous... ___

Re: gEDA-user: rant: pcb print from command line

2010-03-09 Thread Frank Bergmann
he submitter to provide better patches next time. BTW ineiev "guides" me across my patch on sf until his requirements are met. Frank Bergmann. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: any last minute advice prior to sending out for PCB fab

2010-02-24 Thread Frank Bergmann
hey are good for, or does that just need some notes and > documentation and phone calls? For me, just copper, no solder mask but described in the bom and appeared in the pick and place data. Communicaton starts typically when they are missed ...

Re: gEDA-user: Message and Library windows

2010-02-24 Thread Frank Bergmann
rework my patch with libgdl. And the opportunity for different severities (different colors or little icons, filters, ...) are also in my mind. Frank Bergmann. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: PCB LF patch: single "foward annotate" sch->pcb button

2010-02-02 Thread Frank Bergmann
On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:52:40 -0500, DJ Delorie wrote: > Fixed. Amusingly enough, the lesstif hid had the same conflict, but > avoided it as that file didn't pull in the header. Now it builds, thanks! ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.o

Re: gEDA-user: PCB LF patch: single "foward annotate" sch->pcb button

2010-02-01 Thread Frank Bergmann
pcb/src/hid/gtk/gui-netlist-window.c:978: error: conflicting types for ‘NetlistChanged’ ../../pcb/src/misc.h:124: note: previous declaration of ‘NetlistChanged’ was here make[4]: *** [hid/gtk/libgtk_a-gui-netlist-window.o] Error 1 Frank. ___ geda-u

Re: gEDA-user: Feature Request Status-Terminal instead of dialogue and info boxes

2009-11-18 Thread Frank Bergmann
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:24:48 +, Peter Clifton wrote: > On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 18:35 +, Ineiev wrote: >> On 11/17/09, Peter Clifton >> wrote: >> > On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 14:11 +, Ineiev wrote: >> >> I think you may want to use this Frank Bergm

Re: gEDA-user: Working on xgsch2pcb-0.1.3 for Gentoo

2009-10-30 Thread Frank Bergmann
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:25:24 +0100, Bert Timmerman wrote: > On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 20:31 +0000, Frank Bergmann wrote: >> On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:47:21 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: >> >> > Where do you keep "unplaced" parts in your scheme? Do they still >>

Re: gEDA-user: Working on xgsch2pcb-0.1.3 for Gentoo

2009-10-29 Thread Frank Bergmann
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:12:50 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: > Don't forget to handle the case where the board doesn't yet have an > outline layer :-) Mmmh ... ! I'll create one ;-) ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi

Re: gEDA-user: Working on xgsch2pcb-0.1.3 for Gentoo

2009-10-29 Thread Frank Bergmann
hange internal data structures. Mmmh ... I think about it ... and maybe I found a solution for me and can provide some patches. Frank. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Working on xgsch2pcb-0.1.3 for Gentoo

2009-10-29 Thread Frank Bergmann
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:42:09 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: >> What are "unplaced parts"? - I know tools that define such parts as >> "parts not within the (closed) board outline" and mark them by color or >> symbol. > > Ah, "you don't" :-) > > The LinuxFund work includes an item for storing unplaced

Re: gEDA-user: Working on xgsch2pcb-0.1.3 for Gentoo

2009-10-29 Thread Frank Bergmann
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:47:21 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: >> http://frajasalo.de/frank/projekt/pcb/pcb_part-view_20091028-2257.png > > That board looks familiar... ;-) I would be suprised if not ... It is a good reference, throws some drc errors, is not to big to delay pcb'

Re: gEDA-user: Working on xgsch2pcb-0.1.3 for Gentoo

2009-10-28 Thread Frank Bergmann
able to multi-select, and hit "auto-disperse > selected" in the parts bin. Filter by name, by footprint (leave all > those decoupling caps to last etc..)... > > Anyone want to code this?? Mmmh - digging in my local git repos give me this: http://frajasalo.de/frank/p

Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL testing

2009-10-26 Thread Frank Bergmann
g driver...so here is my...) running your pcb-gl master-branch on FC11 with intel xorg driver (2.7.0) crashes my xserver while showing drc window (library window is ok). It seems to be a bug in the driver, because the same code on a debian lenny system with radeonhd xorg driver r

Re: gEDA-user: )(

2009-10-06 Thread Frank Bergmann
(smt res and caps as plain boxes) to the coordinates from the xyfile should give the first results. Frank. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: )(

2009-10-02 Thread Frank Bergmann
On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 20:14:46 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: > On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 18:59 +0000, Frank Bergmann wrote: >> Is the code you have trouble with already in your git repo? > > git clone git://repo.or.cz/geda-pcb/pcjc2.git cd pcjc2 > git checkout -b before_pours o

Re: gEDA-user: )(

2009-10-02 Thread Frank Bergmann
ioned before cairo claims hw acceleration. Well, I am have no x/graphics/rendering experience ... Is the code you have trouble with already in your git repo? And is the step towards OpenGL the next big step in pcb (gtkhid) development? Frank. ___ geda-

Re: gEDA-user: Intel stencil clear bug with multiple contexts

2009-10-01 Thread Frank Bergmann
On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:43:09 +, Frank Bergmann wrote: > On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:22:04 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: > >> Hi guys, >> >> This is a vague bug report at best - hence mentioned here in case it >> means anything to anyone. I've not really got e

Re: gEDA-user: Intel stencil clear bug with multiple contexts

2009-10-01 Thread Frank Bergmann
On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 23:22:14 +0200, Stefan Salewski wrote: > Hope not annoying you, but if you followed this list very carefully the > last years (I did not Me too. I am pretty new to this project. > ) you may know that Peter C. is a very smart > software developer who has contributed much to gE

Re: gEDA-user: Intel stencil clear bug with multiple contexts

2009-10-01 Thread Frank Bergmann
here on FC11. If you have code and instructions how to reproduce the "bug" I can do some tests here. Frank. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Soldering supplies

2009-06-10 Thread Frank Miles
Since DJ mentioned impedance level concerns associated with different kinds of flux: please note that the flux pen shown in John Luciani's generally excellent recommendations leads to seriously low electrical conductivity. [At least for high-impedance analog circuits]. It's a pretty aggressive flu

Re: gEDA-user: PCB build changes

2009-06-02 Thread Frank Bergmann
t ought to be happening soon actually. I am looking forward to the moment when the gl code hits the main line. Because it seems to be much faster, at least on one of my systems. When I load DJ's m32c sdram project the speed difference is dramatically! It still have some "fl

Re: gEDA-user: PCB build changes

2009-06-02 Thread Frank Bergmann
On Tue, 02 Jun 2009 00:17:22 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: > On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 21:28 +0000, Frank Bergmann wrote: >> Am Fri, 29 May 2009 07:25:27 -0400 schrieb Dan McMahill: >> >> > I just pushed some changes to part of how the PCB build system works. >> >

Re: gEDA-user: PCB build changes

2009-06-01 Thread Frank Bergmann
it's a little bit of topic, but there are any plans to integrate the OpenGL branch into the main git repo? Even perhaps as another hid compile option or, still better, as a runtime option? Frank. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul

Re: gEDA-user: PCB build changes

2009-06-01 Thread Frank Bergmann
on of a clean git repository, it could be better to discuss patches before applying them to the repo. git is designed to support this ... I have not tested your changes yet, but I like the intention. Frank. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@mo

Re: gEDA-user: fritzing

2009-05-07 Thread Frank Bergmann
e/she is willing to provide a further patch. Frank. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: fritzing

2009-05-07 Thread Frank Bergmann
one can see and > discuss the patch, and if people like it a committer can apply it with > almost zero effort. Find http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/everyday.html usefull learning git usage. Frank. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: fritzing

2009-05-07 Thread Frank Bergmann
27;m afraid the project needs a dicussion about the direction of such improvements/modernizations. > Cheers, Frank. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: ground plan

2009-02-11 Thread Frank Miles
DJ Delorie wrote: >> Is there some reason that "New Lines... clear polygons" is not on by >> default? >It *is* on by default. The problem is that gsch2pcb doesn't use pcb's >defaults. That's why in my tutorials, I don't let gsch2pcb create the >initial board. I'm probably blind, but I've only

Re: gEDA-user: Hiding power pins in schematic symbols?

2008-10-31 Thread Frank Miles
Thanks John and Kai-Martin, that should be an adequate if awkward work-around. It must also be the approach to take when other "shape changes" are desirable beyond the limits of rotation and mirroring. -Frank ___ geda-user mailing

gEDA-user: Hiding power pins in schematic symbols?

2008-10-31 Thread Frank Miles
Newbie questioner... Is there a way to selectively hide the power pins of a multi-sectioned component? That is, without having to resort to the "hidden connection" (net attribute) method? A simple example: a 7400 package, with 4 2-in nand gates. With OrCAD, I was able to create a _5_ element

Re: gEDA-user: External attribute read/write - how?

2008-10-23 Thread Frank Miles
yone for their ideas. Frank Miles ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

gEDA-user: External attribute read/write - how?

2008-10-22 Thread Frank Miles
provides a nice mechanism for hand-entry, but doesn't (in my quick check) seem to provide any mechanism for program control. If anyone can provide pointers to the documents that I have sloppily overlooked, I'd appreciate it. Thanks! Frank Miles

gEDA-user: gerbv - not reading format

2007-12-02 Thread Frank Miles
Gerbv (including 1.0.3) seems to have difficulty reading the format string. I've been trying to get gerbv to handle the first example Gerber code from the file: http://gerbv.sourceforge.net/docs/rs274xrevd_e.pdf : *G04 EXAMPLE 1: 2 BOXES %FSLAX23Y23*% %MOIN*%

gEDA-user: Attributes - docs with more complete/recent info?

2006-12-13 Thread Frank Miles
I'm trying to understand symbol attributes. The most current version of the "master attribute document" that I've found (2004) seems to be missing some things - such definitions for "pins" (seems to be the pin count) and "class" (what are the allowed values?). Is a more up-to-date doc availab

gEDA-user: Newer attributes doc?

2006-12-11 Thread Frank Miles
I'm trying to understand symbol attributes. The most current version of the "master attribute document" (2004) seems to be missing some things - such definitions for "pins" (seems to be the pin count) and "class" (and the acceptable values, if limited, for class). I haven't found any docs whic