Re: gEDA-user: help with pcb dsn plugin

2011-09-18 Thread Peter Clifton
... Cool. Just for the record, I don't like PCB's code formatting style myself either ;) -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel:

Re: gEDA-user: help with pcb dsn plugin

2011-09-17 Thread Peter Clifton
). You might need to try and contact the original author, but I'd personally not worry about implementing compatibility with the file-format. The only issue we might have is what we call it - Specctra might be a trademarked name. > -- Probably some other stuff. > > It appears to be worki

gEDA-user: Zoom bug on Windows

2011-09-16 Thread Peter Clifton
src/hid/gtk/gui-top-window.c: setlocale (LC_NUMERIC, "POSIX"); /* use decimal point instead of comma */ FAIL ___^ The gschem commit in question was this: commit a78d166a1b57b80ff46e2ac98a14989b8af77c3e Author: Peter Clifton Date:

Re: gEDA-user: windows testers wanted

2011-09-16 Thread Peter Clifton
On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 13:06 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: > As for the z / Z shortcuts, could you > > 1) Describe where those keys are on your keyboard? >Are they the non-shifted, and shifted versions of the same physical > button? >Do you have to hold any other modif

Re: gEDA-user: windows testers wanted

2011-09-16 Thread Peter Clifton
ut whether something is blocking your short-cuts (like a hidden or transparent IME window or something like that). Do other keyboard shortcuts work? - For example, does typing ":" bring up a command window - either in the status bar area of PCB, or as a separate window? Best regards,

Re: gEDA-user: unconnected tracks

2011-09-16 Thread Peter Clifton
On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 02:02 +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > here comes the forgotten patch for more intuitive select and unselect > menu items. If there are corresponding items in pcb-menu.res, it would be good to keep those in sync as we change gpcb-menu.res, otherwise - looks good. --

Re: gEDA-user: windows testers wanted

2011-09-15 Thread Peter Clifton
On Thu, 2011-09-15 at 14:51 -0600, asom...@gmail.com wrote: > v key when board is flipped: doesn't work (bug #841547) The build you tested missed the fix for that (not by much), but it ought to be fixed in tomorrow's build. Best wishes, -- Peter Clifton Electrical Enginee

Re: gEDA-user: trcing with pcb design

2011-09-14 Thread Peter Clifton
just one form of back annotation. For many operations, change-by-change back-annotation would be easier to deal with than just throwing an extracted netlist back at the schematic editor. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomso

Re: gEDA-user: Another pcb segfault

2011-09-14 Thread Peter Clifton
is the default state. Did you have any extra patches or configure options in place to get the asserts to be active? (I'm betting the fact that DJ and I didn't see the assert fail is only due to the fact that we're using the default build settings). Regards, -- Peter Clifton

Re: gEDA-user: cygwin geda tools

2011-09-13 Thread Peter Clifton
rks. Specifically, I have a patch (which is in minipack), which drops all gschem's old printing code in favour for cairo printing - which works on Windows. PCB cannot print using cairo, and I have no immediate plans to work on that - sorry. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, E

Re: gEDA-user: Wire-only Symbols - Netlist problems

2011-09-11 Thread Peter Clifton
http://www.amazon.com/System-Dynamics-Approach-Dean-Karnopp/dp/0471459402 Cool, that looks interesting. I look forward to hearing how you progress with this. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3

Re: gEDA-user: why some skip KiCAD and gEDA

2011-09-10 Thread Peter Clifton
ide should not look like a Lord of the Rings style manuscript ;) -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared

Re: gEDA-user: Wire-only Symbols - Netlist problems

2011-09-10 Thread Peter Clifton
es bond graphs for > simulation? Its not a concept I've come across before. Do you have a simple reference as to where (and how) they are used? -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (

Re: gEDA-user: Wire-only Symbols - Netlist problems

2011-09-09 Thread Peter Clifton
it We've been a bit tardy with making releases of our latest and greatest code. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748

Re: gEDA-user: why some skip KiCAD and gEDA

2011-09-09 Thread Peter Clifton
t to see about this, looked at my gschem - then found I had ALREADY DONE THIS back in January! commit 1c531ec953bb3a7fe895eafc65c3d4f85c2603c6 Author: Peter Clifton Date: Sat Jan 15 13:45:08 2011 + gschem: Delete "Edit"->"Make Inv Text Vis" menu item This

Re: gEDA-user: Electromagnetic bike

2011-09-09 Thread Peter Clifton
ave bolt-holes for the brake disk - bolt to it). Obviously this would mean you couldn't use the disk brake, so I hope the whole assembly is going to be stationary ;) -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Ca

Re: gEDA-user: why some skip KiCAD and gEDA

2011-09-08 Thread Peter Clifton
Shift B" . add-bus-hotkey) ("Shift H" . hierarchy-keymap) ("Shift U" . edit-undo) ("Shift R" . edit-redo) ("Shift Z" . view-zoom-out-hotkey) ("Control x" . clipboard-cut) ("Control c" . clipboard-copy) ("Con

Re: gEDA-user: why some skip KiCAD and gEDA

2011-09-08 Thread Peter Clifton
gt; > text and attributes making them visible! > > > > It is not like “en” which just toggles the display mode to show > > invisible text, but “ev” actually changes the entities. For my money, we could kill "ev" and its menu item completely. I don't think it serv

Re: gEDA-user: Wire-only Symbols - Netlist problems

2011-09-08 Thread Peter Clifton
ould be a help for any further diagnostic, but it sounds like you might be trying to do something which isn't supported. -- Peter Clifton signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Wire-only Symbols - Netlist problems

2011-09-08 Thread Peter Clifton
gt; Would it help it I posted a schematic? Could anyone shed some light please? I think it is a known issue that you can't place nets (wires) inside symbols - only pins, attributes and graphical elements. Other than that - I'm not sure what issue you might be running into. Reg

Re: gEDA-user: time for a pcb release cycle?

2011-09-07 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 22:47 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: > On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 10:56 -0700, Colin D Bennett wrote: > > How about this for a solution: > > > > 1. When saving to disk, don't disconnect/reconnect the file watch, > >just leave it connected. Howev

Re: gEDA-user: time for a pcb release cycle?

2011-09-07 Thread Peter Clifton
le modification >time is equal to the previously captured save_time. I've done it purely on mtimes, and it "seems" to work. No doubt someone will find me a corner case where it is broken though :( Best wishes, -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Dep

Re: gEDA-user: CERN goes for KiCAD

2011-09-07 Thread Peter Clifton
bility. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab phone, ask for me) signature.asc Description: This is a dig

Re: gEDA-user: time for a pcb release cycle?

2011-09-07 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 10:42 +0200, Kovacs Levente wrote: > Each time I save my layout, a message appears: "layout changed. Do you > want to load it?" or something like that. > > Brr well of couse it changed! I saved it! :-) Ok, I know it is a good > feature... Yes - it turns out that my c

Re: gEDA-user: CERN goes for KiCAD

2011-09-06 Thread Peter Clifton
xport for our tools might be a wise move if we want them to reconsider after they have tried KiCAD. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +4

Re: gEDA-user: "revert" vs "reload"

2011-09-05 Thread Peter Clifton
On Mon, 2011-09-05 at 21:55 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: > Looking at where I hooked up my code, I have hooked it up in a stupid > place - the file monitoring is cancelled and re-wired every time PCB > handles a menu action! > > It probably needs to hook up so it is only

Re: gEDA-user: "revert" vs "reload"

2011-09-05 Thread Peter Clifton
t; with a gschem / gattrib version. I would love to see this consistently > > across the tools, yet didn't have time to do the gEDA parts at the > > moment. > > Cool, thanks. I asked Ales and DJ on IRC earlier, and we have a consensus that bumping the version requirement to GTK

Re: gEDA-user: "revert" vs "reload"

2011-09-05 Thread Peter Clifton
of GTK 3.0 out there yet? -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab phone, ask for me) signature.asc Descript

Re: gEDA-user: test repo

2011-09-05 Thread Peter Clifton
ght themselves that development work ;) (Seriously). Best wishes. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared la

Re: gEDA-user: David Jones - EEVBlog on Open Hardware

2011-09-05 Thread Peter Clifton
On Mon, 2011-09-05 at 03:37 +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Peter Clifton wrote: > > > gEDA and KiCAD get a mention ;) > > > > http://www.eevblog.com/2011/08/12/eevblog-195-open-source-hardware-explained/ > > About what point in time? Sorry - can't recal

Re: gEDA-user: "revert" vs "reload"

2011-09-05 Thread Peter Clifton
, yet didn't have time to do the gEDA parts at the moment. Actually gattrib support might be tricky, since it opens multiple files and doesn't support reloading at the moment (?) - gschem support would be awesome. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department

gEDA-user: David Jones - EEVBlog on Open Hardware

2011-09-04 Thread Peter Clifton
gEDA and KiCAD get a mention ;) http://www.eevblog.com/2011/08/12/eevblog-195-open-source-hardware-explained/ -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the

Re: gEDA-user: Tearoffs on popup menu in pcb?

2011-09-03 Thread Peter Clifton
ol buttons on a tool-bar. One of the better(?) hidden features in PCB ;) -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab ph

Re: gEDA-user: pcb gtk: Toggle buttons for route styles?

2011-09-02 Thread Peter Clifton
ot;smart" route-style which has different settings for different layers. That would make assigning one route-style to one net much more practical. You (and the auto-router) wouldn't have to switch styles when switching layers etc.. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineer

Re: gEDA-user: Fwd: Re: [OH Updates] How can you help solve the proprietary tool problem?

2011-09-02 Thread Peter Clifton
i-Martin and me. Just for the record, I'm not sure what our moderation policy is. Are any of your posts being rejected by moderation? (If so - just what kind of emails are you sending? ;)). -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge

Re: gEDA-user: pcb gtk: Toggle buttons for route styles?

2011-09-01 Thread Peter Clifton
). Perhaps I'm just used to the old way, so am resistant to change. Throwing out a crazy idea.. in word-processors etc.., "styles" are found in a drop-down combo-box. I know that doesn't fit so well with where we have space for the route-style selector, but just a crazy though.

Re: gEDA-user: gpcb-menu.res

2011-09-01 Thread Peter Clifton
On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 09:13 +0200, Kovacs Levente wrote: > On Thu, 01 Sep 2011 02:01:34 +0100 > Peter Clifton wrote: > > > Not a complete fix > > Peter, thanks for fixing it! Sorry I broke it in the first place! I was almost certain it was broken before I wrote that patc

Re: gEDA-user: gpcb-menu.res

2011-08-31 Thread Peter Clifton
y" fix I made in the PCB+GL branch was: commit f059e9536659aedefa4a91c249a40b8eafe309d4 Author: Peter Clifton Date: Tue Aug 30 20:48:13 2011 +0100 Fix layer on/off rendering I'm not certain this is correct at all. It works around failure to switch layer visibility on / off after

Re: gEDA-user: gpcb-menu.res

2011-08-31 Thread Peter Clifton
On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 01:46 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: > Yes - I did break it (at least partially).. I'll fix the bit I broke. Not a complete fix, but: commit acbf10c2bf1814c5ffbe13dbcfd03fc9ffcaca89 Author: Peter Clifton Commit: Peter Clifton hid/gtk: Attempt to fix logic

Re: gEDA-user: "revert" vs "reload"

2011-08-31 Thread Peter Clifton
common practice for a lot of editors now, including vim (or at least gvim). I've lost count the number of times I've had the same schematic accidentally open twice by accident - for example. A warning when the file changes underneath me could be a huge bonus to know I need to _thi

Re: gEDA-user: gpcb-menu.res

2011-08-31 Thread Peter Clifton
ity"), but that was only last week or so. :( Yes - I did break it (at least partially).. I'll fix the bit I broke. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No s

Re: gEDA-user: "revert" vs "reload"

2011-08-31 Thread Peter Clifton
"reload" but > if you have unsaved changes, you see "revert". Gah, PLEASE NO. Just stick with the Gnome HIG specification and be done with it. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3

Re: gEDA-user: essential library -- plaese comment.

2011-08-31 Thread Peter Clifton
a > about what should they look like. If you can get hold of a copy of the standard for us to look at, that might be useful. I believe some European countries follow IEC standards for symbols. Shame the IEC standards are so darned expensive and hard to get. -- Peter Clifton Electrical

Re: gEDA-user: gpcb-menu.res

2011-08-31 Thread Peter Clifton
On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 00:56 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: > On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 14:00 +0200, Kovacs Levente wrote: > > On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 12:01:00 -0700 > > Andrew Poelstra wrote: > > > > > Fixed in git head. > > > > Thanks! Maybe I can see why th

Re: gEDA-user: gpcb-menu.res

2011-08-31 Thread Peter Clifton
, then testing if that layer is on. Note that the for-loop stops one-short, as the value left in idx can be one greater than the termination criteria of the for loop (which IS the last in the layer group). idx is abused as both a group index, and a layer index. These are completely different (

Re: gEDA-user: "revert" vs "reload"

2011-08-31 Thread Peter Clifton
GLib/GIO. This is present (I think), since GLib 2.18. This corresponds to approximately GTK 2.16 and onwards. (From a quick scan of the git repository, GTK 2.16 requires at least GLIB 2.19.7). Regards, -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Camb

Re: gEDA-user: New gtk menu system

2011-08-31 Thread Peter Clifton
to determine which layers to route on, and various other bits of code (including object selection) seem to care. Perhaps the easier option would be to contractually ban the core from assigning layer visibilities. That would mean banning or moving some of the misc.c APIs which touch that. Best wis

Re: gEDA-user: New gtk menu system

2011-08-29 Thread Peter Clifton
+- src/hid/gtk/gui-top-window.c | 1235 - src/hid/gtk/gui.h | 14 +- 10 files changed, 1001 insertions(+), 1331 deletions(-) That is my kind of diffstat ;) New functionality, less lines. Awesome. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineer

Re: gEDA-user: gedasymbols.org down?

2011-08-29 Thread Peter Clifton
server trouble > always happen when you need them the most ;-| Yes - I got a message from DJ saying it has knocked his power and internet down. (The server lives in DJ's basement). -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Tho

Re: gEDA-user: "revert" vs "reload"

2011-08-29 Thread Peter Clifton
enus-standard.html.en So my preference is that we stick with "Revert" here. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223

Re: gEDA-user: timestamps in pcb.git

2011-08-29 Thread Peter Clifton
ou with a bad time-stamp. Is it possible your computer clock is (or was) set wrong? -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)12

Re: gEDA-user: New layer selector to play with (git preview)

2011-08-27 Thread Peter Clifton
ntly breaking some aspects of postscript (and perhaps other) output in my PCB+GL branches though. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44

Re: gEDA-user: New layer selector to play with (git preview)

2011-08-27 Thread Peter Clifton
and I've not updated the "pours" branch in a while. Both of those need work on the drawing APIs, which I've not sorted out yet. Best wishes, -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3

Re: gEDA-user: New layer selector to play with (git preview)

2011-08-25 Thread Peter Clifton
On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 06:01 -0700, Andrew Poelstra wrote: > On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 06:28:09AM +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: > > > > A few nits when I tested it. (And not just looked at the screenshots).. > > > > 1. PCB crashes immediately on startup for me: > >

Re: gEDA-user: New layer selector to play with (git preview)

2011-08-25 Thread Peter Clifton
On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 05:52 -0700, Andrew Poelstra wrote: > On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 06:28:09AM +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: > > > > A few nits when I tested it. (And not just looked at the screenshots).. > > > > 1. PCB crashes immediately on startup for me: > > &

Re: gEDA-user: New layer selector to play with (git preview)

2011-08-25 Thread Peter Clifton
On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 06:23 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: > On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 03:21 -0700, Andrew Poelstra wrote: > > Hey all, > > > > The new gtk layer selector is finished for most uses now. If > > you want to play with it before it's ready to be published >

Re: gEDA-user: New layer selector to play with (git preview)

2011-08-25 Thread Peter Clifton
, or I'll end up resolving conflicts more than once). Best wishes, -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared

Re: gEDA-user: pcb HID GUI options: gtk, lesstif?

2011-08-24 Thread Peter Clifton
e upper. A decent graphics card capable of driving them is not though.. and it needs to have working GL drivers under Linux too ;) (I'm limited by my laptop, so just 1 or 2 monitors here). -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Th

Re: gEDA-user: canvas of openGL enabled PCB temporarily goes confetti

2011-08-24 Thread Peter Clifton
hot. I can't reproduce it here on Intel HW. Does it happen for any other GL applications, such as glxgears? -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal i

Re: gEDA-user: pcb HID GUI options: gtk, lesstif?

2011-08-24 Thread Peter Clifton
-arrives-with-single-window-mode-1328585.html Oh dear goodness do I _love_ this new mode in GIMP. I've been using it since it was first out in the gimp devel PPA, and it is superb. You can still undock things as you want, but it stops the damned floaty tool-palettes getting all over the p

Re: gEDA-user: Foss-pcb Proposed plan from CERN

2011-08-24 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 22:14 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: > On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 15:01 +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > > Peter Clifton wrote: > > > > Unpacking the container format, separating out individual footprints > > > from a library, identifying most of the bi

Re: gEDA-user: Foss-pcb Proposed plan from CERN

2011-08-24 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 15:01 +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Peter Clifton wrote: > > Unpacking the container format, separating out individual footprints > > from a library, identifying most of the binary record types within those > > footprints. It would take time and exam

Re: gEDA-user: Foss-pcb Proposed plan from CERN

2011-08-24 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 01:42 +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Peter Clifton wrote: > > > Even conversion of old legacy Altium designs could be done given access > ^ > Is this a serious restriction? > Would it be possible for a user of a c

Re: gEDA-user: pcb HID GUI options: gtk, lesstif?

2011-08-23 Thread Peter Clifton
use GL rendering too at some point if DJ wants - I already did a quick proof-of concept test to make sure it was feasible, but at this stage the code isn't perfectly factored out). Regards, -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9,

Re: gEDA-user: gschem crash on object drag

2011-08-23 Thread Peter Clifton
;valgrind" valgrind pcb path_to_your_pcb_file.pcb Would be very slow, but is excellent at nailing the root cause of memory corruption problems which lead to crashes. Again - checking if you can reproduce the issue under a later gschem version is probably the most efficient way to proceed.

Re: gEDA-user: How to do PCB Autorouting with non-plated holes

2011-08-23 Thread Peter Clifton
mber; i == my_group_number; i++) { ... } Or: do { i = my_group_number; ... } while (0); /* NB: The loop body will still execute once */ Regards, -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thoms

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds - summary

2011-08-23 Thread Peter Clifton
sooner look at it - often (and very ironically as it turned out), caused by the page auto-save code! -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds - summary

2011-08-23 Thread Peter Clifton
artwork there are 14 layers, going from all visible to > just one visible would take 13 clicks. Right-click, "Show only" might be nice here. Thinking of some nice signal displaying software I use at work, it has "Hide all waveforms below" "Hide all waveforms above"

Re: gEDA-user: viewing side vs. layers

2011-08-23 Thread Peter Clifton
mit which caused it, but I can't seem to find it now. I never did figure out whether the bug was in the original logic or not, but I know roughly where to look to start fixing it. (I came across that code recently when looking at refactoring the view-port change APIs in the GTK HID).

Re: gEDA-user: Foss-pcb Proposed plan from CERN

2011-08-23 Thread Peter Clifton
back, and the only reason it has stalled so far is a lack of my time. The formats aren't so bad to understand once you've had some luck figuring out the binary compression scheme. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Tho

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds - summary

2011-08-20 Thread Peter Clifton
gy. > > Also, try italicised text. That might make them appear distinct. Bear in mind that the current layer chooser doesn't make any distinction here, so it shouldn't trip people up _that_ much if we don't differentiate them. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, E

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-19 Thread Peter Clifton
tching off entire layer groups, or individual layers within them. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab

gEDA-user: PCB+GL rebased to git HEAD (with nanometers)

2011-08-19 Thread Peter Clifton
yet. Best regards, -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab phone, ask for me) signature.asc Description:

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-19 Thread Peter Clifton
. Given GTK was originally the "GIMP TOOL KIT", it seems sad that they have to go to such lengths to implement basic functionality. If we are really keen on the behaviour described - perhaps we could implement our own widget for it too. Regards, -- Peter Clifton Electrical E

Re: gEDA-user: personal component library frustration-HELP/suggestions please?

2011-08-16 Thread Peter Clifton
vantages of using skip-m4: > > + Avoids that nasty bug that occurs when a footprint name contains a > hyphen character ("-"). Which is now fixed anyway. > Disadvantages of using skip-m4: > > - Can't use your own custom m4 footprints directly? -- Peter Clifto

Re: gEDA-user: Nanometer conversion pushed to git head

2011-08-16 Thread Peter Clifton
rmat. > > > Thank you all for your support and testing as I have worked > on this over the last month or two. Your efforts are much appreciated. As soon as I get a chance, I'll try running it on some real production board data to verify things look the same. Best wishes,

Re: gEDA-user: PCB opengl?

2011-08-15 Thread Peter Clifton
On Mon, 2011-08-15 at 00:06 +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Peter Clifton wrote: > > >> If the problem only applies to me then could You please give me some tips > >> what to check? > > > > I can reproduce it. > > For some reason I can't. &g

Re: gEDA-user: PCB opengl?

2011-08-14 Thread Peter Clifton
On Sun, 2011-08-14 at 22:57 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: > On Sun, 2011-08-14 at 08:44 +0200, michalwd1979 wrote: > > >> Normally components that are on the far side are drawn with grey colour, > > >> but now I can see only pins, SMD pads (drown as expected in grey)

Re: gEDA-user: PCB opengl?

2011-08-14 Thread Peter Clifton
ine to work to helped focus the development effort. Best wishes, -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab

Re: gEDA-user: PCB opengl?

2011-08-14 Thread Peter Clifton
e not noticed it > > myself, but then I probably haven't been working on boards which had > > back-silk recently. > Dear Peter, > If the problem only applies to me then could You please give me some tips > what to check? I can reproduce it. I'm not quite sure

Re: gEDA-user: PCB opengl?

2011-08-13 Thread Peter Clifton
reproduce it, I'll try to get it fixed. I've not noticed it myself, but then I probably haven't been working on boards which had back-silk recently. Best wishes, -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson A

Re: gEDA-user: Constraint-based PCB footprint design

2011-08-08 Thread Peter Clifton
ly glad to see you've started this tool. Best wishes, -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab phone, ask f

Re: gEDA-user: New line-snapping feature for PCB - please try it!

2011-08-01 Thread Peter Clifton
... > > So, please revert the feature in the current state. It creates > more grief than joy. Agreed (having used it myself for a while now) - it needs revision before it is ready for prime-time. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of

Re: gEDA-user: Anybody ever had a board assembled (pick and place)?

2011-07-28 Thread Peter Clifton
27;ve seen them miss components when the silk-screen wasn't clear. I think they tend to manually program their PnP machines looking at the BOM and your board, rather than fighting with "n" different PnP formats different CAD systems might supply. Best wishes, -- Peter Clifton Electrica

Re: gEDA-user: Warp pointer nonesense

2011-07-27 Thread Peter Clifton
> Regards, > Colin > > > ___ > geda-user mailing list > geda-user@moria.seul.org > http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ

Re: gEDA-user: Warp pointer nonesense

2011-07-25 Thread Peter Clifton
On Mon, 2011-07-25 at 02:44 +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Peter Clifton wrote in the other mailinglist where mere users are not allowed > to post: > > > How about the attached patch? > > > > GTK HID, GL implementation only at the moment (GDK renderer won't b

Re: gEDA-user: Warp pointer nonesense

2011-07-25 Thread Peter Clifton
On Mon, 2011-07-25 at 09:04 +0200, Gabriel Paubert wrote: > On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 01:15:17AM +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > > Peter Clifton wrote on the other list where mere users are not allowed to > > post: > > > > > If no-one has any objection, I will r

Re: gEDA-user: Warp pointer nonesense

2011-07-24 Thread Peter Clifton
On Mon, 2011-07-25 at 01:15 +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Peter Clifton wrote on the other list where mere users are not allowed to > post: > My objection: I use regularily this feature to locate nets. It would be > a regression if it were removed without a replacement. Yes

Re: gEDA-user: New line-snapping feature for PCB - please try it!

2011-07-24 Thread Peter Clifton
an off-grid line without changing its angle? -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab phone, ask for me)

Re: gEDA-user: New line-snapping feature for PCB - please try it!

2011-07-24 Thread Peter Clifton
On Sun, 2011-07-24 at 20:23 +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Peter Clifton wrote: > > > Try it and you will see ;) > > > Now, that I tried a bit more, I see room for improvement :-) > Currently the cross hair snaps to lines on all layers. It should perhaps be a "st

Re: gEDA-user: Recap of remaining metric-conversion work

2011-07-24 Thread Peter Clifton
event coordinate conversion for the GTK HID though, and that could potentially conflict a bit. I'm trying to use the new types where applicable though - so I hope resolving the conflicts should just be a matter of checking whether I did anything stupid with my changes. Best wishes, -- Pe

Re: gEDA-user: Recap of remaining metric-conversion work

2011-07-24 Thread Peter Clifton
quot;) and _("mil") in its current code. I > did not want to change this, so I internationalized all the units. Yuck - never mind. We could change it to not translate, but since you've gone to the trouble of making it work, I don't see why we should. -- Peter Clifton Elect

Re: gEDA-user: New line-snapping feature for PCB - please try it!

2011-07-24 Thread Peter Clifton
On Sun, 2011-07-24 at 01:37 +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Peter Clifton wrote: > > > adding a feature for snapping to off-grid points along the body of a > > track. > > Sounds good, but I don't quite understand the details. Where exactly > are these

gEDA-user: New line-snapping feature for PCB - please try it!

2011-07-23 Thread Peter Clifton
t when you have parts on different grids. It might be possible to implement this more intelligently in a mode-specific way, but for now, the solution I came up with seems to be fairly effective. Best wishes, -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of C

gEDA-user: New line-snapping feature for PCB - please try it!

2011-07-23 Thread Peter Clifton
t when you have parts on different grids. It might be possible to implement this more intelligently in a mode-specific way, but for now, the solution I came up with seems to be fairly effective. Best wishes, -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of C

Re: gEDA-user: Recap of remaining metric-conversion work

2011-07-23 Thread Peter Clifton
I can commit the small changes to > const.h that actually do the conversion. Then I'll push and you guys can > jump on me for all the bugs I've caused. I'm looking forward to opening my "mm" designs with a "mm" grid and not chasing lost of off-grid gremlins

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA-dev: Draft documentation for Scheme API

2011-06-27 Thread Peter Clifton
-scheme/. That look amazing... The manual is pretty darn comprehensive, and from what I've read, the API is really nice too. I've not had much time for doing any gEDA stuff recently, but I look forward to seeing more of this when it lands. Best wishes, -- Peter Clifton Electrical Eng

Re: gEDA-user: PCB head fails with ***MEMORY-ERROR***

2011-06-08 Thread Peter Clifton
ight modify. I think the macro loops should ideally be used for read-only access to the data-structures only. I thought I was being clever (and more robust against problems) by adding the g_list_copy (), but obviously I had not taken care of the clean-up correctly. Best wishes, -- Peter Clifton

Re: gEDA-user: Blog post: Porting gEDA to Guile 2.0, and future plans

2011-06-08 Thread Peter Clifton
UI is ok but depends on completely deprecated widgets or is generally hateful - write it again from scratch. The aim should not really be to hack hack hack until we "just" compile with GTK 3.0, but to do a complete UI review - focusing on the most legacy code first. -- Peter C

Re: gEDA-user: trcing with pcb design

2011-06-08 Thread Peter Clifton
On Tue, 2011-06-07 at 12:56 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: > Yes, you need to specify a background PPM image. > http://www.delorie.com/pcb/bg-image.html It should load PNG fine as well... (certainly the GTK HID can), and probably other formats supported by gdkpixbuf, such as JPEG. -- Peter C

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