Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-18 Thread Andrew Poelstra
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 11:34:04PM +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Andrew Poelstra wrote: > > > I like KMK's > >>click/double-click idea if possible. > > > > Very possible. But you would still be unable to toggle visibility > > independent of selection using the mouse. > > Why is this so?

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-18 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Andrew Poelstra wrote: > I like KMK's >>click/double-click idea if possible. > > Very possible. But you would still be unable to toggle visibility > independent of selection using the mouse. Why is this so? Are double clicked items automatically selected in GTK widgets? > How important i

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-18 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Colin D Bennett wrote: > I really dislike the double-click idea. I often need to quickly > enable/disable visibility of multiple layers, Nothing beats accel-keys for fast actions. In this case [ctrl-N] or [shift-N] would be the natural choice. > and the last thing I need is to have to doubl

Re: gEDA-user: Off topic: request for a little help

2011-08-18 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Stephen Ecob wrote: > Can they >> be shrunk and still be clear enough not to look silly? That would >> speed up page loading. > > Thanks, I think I'll do that. The only time I got noticable download delays was with the details page for each product. IMHO, it would be best to use the same image

Re: gEDA-user: Creating bill of materials?

2011-08-18 Thread John Hudak
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Joshua <[1]jos...@laserlinc.com> wrote: I agree with Delorie. I also was only making slow progress with gattrib. I found the copy and paist functionality limited and strange. I also was confronted with the add column bug. If I remember

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-18 Thread Andrew Poelstra
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 11:49:22AM -0700, Colin D Bennett wrote: > On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 18:57:33 -0700 > Andrew Poelstra wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 09:50:25AM -0700, Colin D Bennett wrote: > > > I like the color swatch and how it shows a small > > > rectangle of the layer color when the

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-18 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 18:57:33 -0700 Andrew Poelstra wrote: > On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 09:50:25AM -0700, Colin D Bennett wrote: > > I like the color swatch and how it shows a small > > rectangle of the layer color when the layer is hidden; if this > > swatch were the show/hide toggle, that would be

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-18 Thread Andrew Poelstra
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 09:50:25AM -0700, Colin D Bennett wrote: > > I really dislike the double-click idea. I often need to quickly > enable/disable visibility of multiple layers, and the last thing I need > is to have to double-click each button. I would much prefer a small > region on the but

Re: gEDA-user: Creating bill of materials?

2011-08-18 Thread Joshua
I agree with Delorie. I also was only making slow progress with gattrib. I found the copy and paist functionality limited and strange. I also was confronted with the add column bug. If I remember correctly it corrupted my files when it shifted the properties from one heading to the next. Th

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-18 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 09:25:06 -0700 Jared Casper wrote: > On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Andrew Poelstra wrote: > > > 2. Whenever you hide a layer, the selector would jump to the > > previously-selected layer. I haven't tried it yet, but I > > think that from a user's perspective that

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-18 Thread Andrew Poelstra
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 01:13:37PM -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: > > > Very possible. But you would still be unable to toggle visibility > > independent of selection using the mouse. How important is this > > to people? It bothers me, but only because there is no keyboard > > shortcut in Gtk for toggli

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-18 Thread DJ Delorie
> Very possible. But you would still be unable to toggle visibility > independent of selection using the mouse. How important is this > to people? It bothers me, but only because there is no keyboard > shortcut in Gtk for toggling visibility. Ctrl- doesn't toggle visibility? That's what the less

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-18 Thread Andrew Poelstra
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 09:25:06AM -0700, Jared Casper wrote: >On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Andrew Poelstra <[1]as...@sfu.ca> >wrote: > > 2. Whenever you hide a layer, the selector would jump to the > > previously-selected layer. I haven't tried it yet, but I > t

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-18 Thread Jared Casper
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Andrew Poelstra <[1]as...@sfu.ca> wrote: 2. Whenever you hide a layer, the selector would jump to the previously-selected layer. I haven't tried it yet, but I think that from a user's perspective that would make the visibility

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-18 Thread Andrew Poelstra
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 08:29:13AM +0200, Krzysztof Kościuszkiewicz wrote: > 2011/8/18 Andrew Poelstra : > > > Kai (and others), what do you think of this mockup?: > > > > http://wpsoftware.net/andrew/dump/mockup.png > > Looks good. It resembles GtkTreeView and that raises a question - will > it

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-18 Thread Andrew Poelstra
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 04:12:34AM +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Andrew Poelstra wrote: > > > Kai (and others), what do you think of this mockup?: > > > > http://wpsoftware.net/andrew/dump/mockup.png > > Layer names with white background are much easier to read than white > on color we have

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-18 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Bert Timmerman wrote: > BTW, we could truncate layernames in buttons: ack. > "pins/pads" --> "leads" Better: Divide these. Pads are different from pins. Pads reside on only one layer while pins are spanning all layers. During my recent multilayer layout it would have been handy to disable pad

Re: gEDA-user: Gschem and footprints

2011-08-18 Thread Steve Meier
I am happy that doc is still useful. Best Wishes to All here at geda, Steve M. On Wed, 2011-08-17 at 08:44 -0500, kqt4a...@comcast.net wrote: > On Tue, 16 Aug 2011, Colin D Bennett wrote: > > > On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 15:35:46 -0500 (CDT) > > kqt4a...@comcast.net wrote: > > > >> I am sure this has

Re: gEDA-user: Task list for Symbol library creation.

2011-08-18 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Павел Таранов wrote: > We need a library as big as possible (not just basic symbols). ack. In an ideal world, we'd have both: A comprehesive lib of symbols, footprints and simulation models that represent all existing components. And a subset that represents a reasonalble choice to begin with.

Re: gEDA-user: Creating bill of materials?

2011-08-18 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
DJ Delorie wrote: >> I think the concept of import/exporting into a spreadsheet program >> is an approach worthy of consideration as well. > > http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/dj_delorie/tools/sch2csv > http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/dj_delorie/tools/csv2sch Sure, comma separated lists can be im

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-18 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Andrew Poelstra wrote: > Kai (and others), what do you think of this mockup?: > > http://wpsoftware.net/andrew/dump/mockup.png Layer names with white background are much easier to read than white on color we have now. If it were me, the colored squares could be a tad larger without increasig t

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-18 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Steven Michalske wrote: > I really like this one. Bonus points for setting layer color by > clicking on the colored rectangle. This should be part of a "properties dialog" for the respective layer. Properties may include attributes like "skip-DRC", DRC rules specific to this layer, layer name,

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-18 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 07:48:31 +0200 "Bert Timmerman" wrote: > > I think such a thing would look like: > > http://wpsoftware.net/andrew/dump/selector.png > > > > What do people think of this? > > IMHO, the former proposal with visibilty buttons without "rectangles" > is the improvement we are loo

Re: gEDA-user: Off topic: request for a little help

2011-08-18 Thread Andy Fierman
> > Which browser and OS are you using ? > Chrome (with default settings i.e. JS enabled) on WinXP Pro SP3 32 bit. Haven't tried it at home with FF on LMDE 64 bit. :) BTW; just submitted a couple of your pages to: http://validator.w3.org/ Quite a few errors. H. :( Andy ___

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-18 Thread Vanessa Ezekowitz
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 01:05:33 +0200 Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Andrew Poelstra wrote: > > > I think such a thing would look like: > > http://wpsoftware.net/andrew/dump/selector.png > > > > What do people think of this? > > Invisibility by greyed out buttons is much more easily grasped > on a gl