Re: gEDA-user: An idea: rework design support...

2011-05-14 Thread DJ Delorie
> To counter that.. I see no compelling reason to keep it though. We'll need it more when we add layer types. > Given we'll probably end up keeping the irksome things, can we swap the > terminology around? Yup. I think we decided "sheets" was the best term for what is now known as "layers".

Re: gEDA-user: An idea: rework design support...

2011-05-14 Thread John Griessen
On 05/14/2011 05:47 PM, Peter Clifton wrote: On Sat, 2011-05-14 at 13:56 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: > > I do not have a problem with the idea of single layer per physical > > layer, > > PCB uses a single layer group per physical layer, with one or more > drawing layers within each group. I

Re: gEDA-user: An idea: rework design support...

2011-05-14 Thread John Doty
On May 14, 2011, at 4:47 PM, Peter Clifton wrote: > On Sat, 2011-05-14 at 13:56 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: >>> I do not have a problem with the idea of single layer per physical >>> layer, >> >> PCB uses a single layer group per physical layer, with one or more >> drawing layers within each group.

Re: gEDA-user: new gschem does look great!!

2011-05-14 Thread Dave McGuire
On 5/14/11 6:30 PM, Peter Clifton wrote: In case it wasn't clear from my rushed message, I had never seen the anti-aliased gschem before today... I wondered if this might have been the case, as I couldn't spot any difference in rendering between the HTML5 renderer and current gschem! I've foun

Re: gEDA-user: PCB GL Memory leak

2011-05-14 Thread Peter Clifton
On Sat, 2011-05-14 at 23:53 +0100, Thomas Oldbury wrote: > The "pcb" process under System Monitor shows usage. It seems to >allocate it in large blocks of ~100MB at a time and never lets go of >these. Are you working on a particularly complex board? I've tried git HEAD PCB and nothing jum

Re: gEDA-user: Pressing "=" key causes PCB to freeze for a few minutes

2011-05-14 Thread Peter Clifton
On Sat, 2011-05-14 at 16:36 +0200, Felix Ruoff wrote: > In the default-konfiguration, the '='-Key is for 'Simple optimization' >from the 'Connects' menu. I can imagine, that this needs some time, but >I have not tested it now. >You can disable/modify this by editing the file 'gpcb-menu.

Re: gEDA-user: An idea: rework design support...

2011-05-14 Thread Peter Clifton
On Sat, 2011-05-14 at 13:56 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: > > I do not have a problem with the idea of single layer per physical > > layer, > > PCB uses a single layer group per physical layer, with one or more > drawing layers within each group. I see no reason to dump that now. > We just need to wor

Re: gEDA-user: PCB GL Memory leak

2011-05-14 Thread Peter Clifton
On Sat, 2011-05-14 at 10:59 +0100, Thomas Oldbury wrote: > After using PCB+gl for more than an hour or so on a basic 4-layer >board, it is using nearly 3.5 GB of memory, slowing the system to a >crawl and forcing it to page a lot of data. Is anyone else experiencing >this issue? It is

Re: gEDA-user: new gschem does look great!!

2011-05-14 Thread Peter Clifton
On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 21:01 -0700, Colin D Bennett wrote: > In case it wasn't clear from my rushed message, I had never seen the > anti-aliased gschem before today... I wondered if this might have been the case, as I couldn't spot any difference in rendering between the HTML5 renderer and current

Re: gEDA-user: An idea: rework design support...

2011-05-14 Thread John Doty
On May 14, 2011, at 2:31 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: > >> No, it does not. There is no 1-1 relationship between pcb layers and >> physical layers. > > Yes, there is. You just have a different interpretation of the word > "layers" than the rest of us. My interpretation corresponds to the normal mean

Re: gEDA-user: An idea: rework design support...

2011-05-14 Thread DJ Delorie
> No, it does not. There is no 1-1 relationship between pcb layers and > physical layers. Yes, there is. You just have a different interpretation of the word "layers" than the rest of us. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www

Re: gEDA-user: An idea: rework design support...

2011-05-14 Thread John Doty
On May 14, 2011, at 11:56 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: > >> I do not have a problem with the idea of single layer per physical >> layer, > > PCB uses a single layer group per physical layer, No, it does not. There is no 1-1 relationship between pcb layers and physical layers. Examples: The insulati

Re: gEDA-user: One more viewer for gEDA data.

2011-05-14 Thread Robas, Teodor
Hello Pavlo, That is just just too nice :) For the suggestions section: 1. it would be even nicer to have it integrated with gedasymbols 2. inverted pins don't have the inverted bar above their name (probably not implemented yet ...) Regards, Teodor On 01/-10/-28163 09:59 PM, Павел Таран

Re: gEDA-user: One more viewer for gEDA data.

2011-05-14 Thread Andrew Poelstra
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 09:40:05PM +0300, Павел Таранов wrote: > Hmmm... HTML5 exporter HID for PCB ? > >Not shure whether I correctly understand "HID"? :) >Current implementation doesn't understand PCB file format, this feature >is planned after gschem implementation. The pcb s

Re: gEDA-user: One more viewer for gEDA data.

2011-05-14 Thread Bob Paddock
2011/5/14 Павел Таранов : >   Thank you all, for the warm words :) > >     I was not aware that HTML5 (canvas) already supports editing of >     graphics     -- can you point me to a description and a minimal example, > like >     scribble-window? > >   No, just now SVG was not the root technology

Re: gEDA-user: One more viewer for gEDA data.

2011-05-14 Thread Павел Таранов
Hmmm... HTML5 exporter HID for PCB ? Not shure whether I correctly understand "HID"? :) Current implementation doesn't understand PCB file format, this feature is planned after gschem implementation. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@

Re: gEDA-user: One more viewer for gEDA data.

2011-05-14 Thread Павел Таранов
Thank you all, for the warm words :) I was not aware that HTML5 (canvas) already supports editing of graphics -- can you point me to a description and a minimal example, like scribble-window? Unfortunatly canvas by itself doesn't support editing, so any editing just e

Re: gEDA-user: An idea: rework design support...

2011-05-14 Thread DJ Delorie
> I do not have a problem with the idea of single layer per physical > layer, PCB uses a single layer group per physical layer, with one or more drawing layers within each group. I see no reason to dump that now. We just need to work on the UI and terminology so that it's less confusing how it a

Re: gEDA-user: One more viewer for gEDA data.

2011-05-14 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 23:22 +0300, Павел Таранов wrote: > Hi, >I'd like to introduse project Wedana ([1]http://wedana.sf.net), which >is based on the gEDA file format. >This project is HTML5 renderer (and editor) for the gEDA file formats. A very interesting project. I was not aware t

Re: gEDA-user: One more viewer for gEDA data.

2011-05-14 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Sat, 14 May 2011 11:11:12 +0200 darko wrote: > Actually, the new gschem is great. Until this week when I upgraded to > > Ubuntu 11.04, I had a really old gschem that did not have > > anti-aliasing. In fact this is the first time I've opened a > > schematic in the new and slick gschem. It rea

Re: gEDA-user: PCB GL Memory leak

2011-05-14 Thread Thomas Oldbury
I didn't have it from the last git, but I haven't compiled the PCB+gl branch without gl yet. On 14 May 2011 15:43, Levente Kovacs <[1]leventel...@gmail.com> wrote: On Sat, 14 May 2011 10:59:57 +0100 Thomas Oldbury <[2]toldb...@gmail.com> wrote: > After using PCB+gl for more tha

Re: gEDA-user: PCB GL Memory leak

2011-05-14 Thread Levente Kovacs
On Sat, 14 May 2011 10:59:57 +0100 Thomas Oldbury wrote: > After using PCB+gl for more than an hour or so on a basic 4-layer > board, it is using nearly 3.5 GB of memory, slowing the system to a > crawl and forcing it to page a lot of data. Is anyone else > experiencing this issue? Do you have t

Re: gEDA-user: Pressing "=" key causes PCB to freeze for a few minutes

2011-05-14 Thread Felix Ruoff
In the default-konfiguration, the '='-Key is for 'Simple optimization' from the 'Connects' menu. I can imagine, that this needs some time, but I have not tested it now. You can disable/modify this by editing the file 'gpcb-menu.res'. There is a line {"Simple optimization" djopt(si

gEDA-user: Pressing "=" key causes PCB to freeze for a few minutes

2011-05-14 Thread Thomas Oldbury
I have not yet figured out what the "=" key does in PCB, but whenever it gets pressed, the program freezes for a few minutes. Unfortunately, on my laptop keyboard it is very close to the delete key, so this leads to a lot of frustration. How do I turn it off? _

Re: gEDA-user: An idea: rework design support...

2011-05-14 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Peter Clifton writes: > FWIW, I'd love to see PCB's enforce one "layer" per "layer" of the > board, tagging objects if necessary to implement similar functionality > to what we currently use "layers" and "layer groups" for. One layer per physical layer would imply that element pins (pads) are ta

gEDA-user: PCB GL Memory leak

2011-05-14 Thread Thomas Oldbury
After using PCB+gl for more than an hour or so on a basic 4-layer board, it is using nearly 3.5 GB of memory, slowing the system to a crawl and forcing it to page a lot of data. Is anyone else experiencing this issue? ___ geda-user mailing l

Re: gEDA-user: One more viewer for gEDA data.

2011-05-14 Thread darko
Actually, the new gschem is great. Until this week when I upgraded to Ubuntu 11.04, I had a really old gschem that did not have anti-aliasing. In fact this is the first time I've opened a schematic in the new and slick gschem. It really does look great and it *is* the new hotness. Thanks for do