Re: gEDA-user: PCB: Change default file-filter in open-dialog

2010-09-29 Thread Ineiev
Hi, Bert; On 9/30/10, Bert Timmerman wrote: > Hmm, g_key_file_* and friends arrived at GTK version 2.6. > > AFAICT, configure.ac checks for the GTK version to be at least 2.8.0, so all > gtk functions prior to that version (and not deprecated) should be > reasonable safe to use. 2.4.0, to be pre

gEDA-user: pcb-20100929 released

2010-09-29 Thread DJ Delorie
It's in the usual place :-) If someone can get the mingw builds working again, I'd appreciate that - neither the win32/build_pcb script nor a fedora mingw cross compiler work for me. Let's not wait a year for the next release... Note: I avoided the "what letter comes after 'z'" problem by simp

Re: gEDA-user: Cutouts

2010-09-29 Thread Rick Collins
You are a little shy of providing info. It is an STX-35398A part and is a very odd critter. But I understand it now. The drawing you provided has inaccuracies in it. They appear to show the cutout pushing to the rectangular pins. In believe in reality they only require a single rectangular

Re: gEDA-user: Cutouts

2010-09-29 Thread kai-martin knaak
DJ Delorie wrote: >> Outline layer? How would I edit that? > > Add another copper layer, change the name to "outline" > The purpose of the outline layer is to communicate non rectangular pcb shapes to the fab. See http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:pcb_tips#how_do_i_make_a_board_outline_to_go_with

Re: gEDA-user: Cutouts

2010-09-29 Thread kai-martin knaak
Dave Kinney wrote: > I know who I have to use a full service company. I just need to know > how to make them in pcb. The company wants gerber files. When I needed a square cutout, my fab just required me to provide the exact borders. So I drew the outline of the hole in the outline layer. A not

Re: gEDA-user: PCB: Change default file-filter in open-dialog

2010-09-29 Thread kai-martin knaak
Felix Ruoff wrote: > My idea is to store the filter from last using of the dialog and use > this filter again. +1. I was about to suggest this kind of automatic adaption to user preferences, when I read your mail :-) > The filter at the first launch of pcb after the > installation should be

Re: gEDA-user: PCB: Change default file-filter in open-dialog

2010-09-29 Thread kai-martin knaak
DJ Delorie wrote: > Personally, I like the filtered list to be the default, but only if > there's an easy way to unfilter it. And if it always chooses the > right filter :-) A bad example is the file dialog in gschem. It always filters for *.sch files. However, gschem is also the symbol editor.

Re: gEDA-user: Cutouts

2010-09-29 Thread DJ Delorie
> Outline layer? How would I edit that? Add another copper layer, change the name to "outline" ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Cutouts

2010-09-29 Thread Dave Kinney
Outlone layer? How would I edit that? On Sep 29, 2010, at 8:41 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: > > PCB's footprint format doesn't support cutouts like that. Your best > bet is to have silk lines for where the cutout should be, and just > edit your ouline layer to be what you need. > > > __

Re: gEDA-user: Cutouts

2010-09-29 Thread Dave Kinney
I know who I have to use a full service company. I just need to know how to make them in pcb. The company wants gerber files. On Sep 29, 2010, at 8:18 PM, Mark Rages wrote: > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 6:51 PM, Rick Collins wrote: >> I'm not sure what to make of this part. If this is the only

Re: gEDA-user: Cutouts

2010-09-29 Thread DJ Delorie
PCB's footprint format doesn't support cutouts like that. Your best bet is to have silk lines for where the cutout should be, and just edit your ouline layer to be what you need. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/

Re: gEDA-user: PCB: Change default file-filter in open-dialog

2010-09-29 Thread DJ Delorie
> Let's see what comments the pcb-devs have on your patch ;-) Personally, I like the filtered list to be the default, but only if there's an easy way to unfilter it. And if it always chooses the right filter :-) ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@m

Re: gEDA-user: Cutouts

2010-09-29 Thread Dave Kinney
Yes it's supposed to mount there. I need to know how to make the cutout for it to sit in place. I can get you a link for the PDF. As I said I'm confined for space. It's a kycon stx-35398... On Sep 29, 2010, at 7:57 PM, timecop wrote: > I was going to reply something about "why are you linkin

Re: gEDA-user: Cutouts

2010-09-29 Thread Mark Rages
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 6:51 PM, Rick Collins wrote: > I'm not sure what to make of this part.  If this is the only info you have > on this part, I wouldn't use it until I get one in hand.  It looks to me > like this is intended for the body of the part to sit in the plane of the > board with pins

Re: gEDA-user: Cutouts

2010-09-29 Thread timecop
I was going to reply something about "why are you linking to some stupid flash website with a jpeg on it instead of .pdf off manufacturer's website" but then I thought audio jacks are serious business and he's probably not allowed to disclose any more information than this under a NDA. -tc On Thu

Re: gEDA-user: Cutouts

2010-09-29 Thread Rick Collins
I'm not sure what to make of this part. If this is the only info you have on this part, I wouldn't use it until I get one in hand. It looks to me like this is intended for the body of the part to sit in the plane of the board with pins along the edges. Notice the drawing shows the edge of th

Re: gEDA-user: new footprint guidelines

2010-09-29 Thread Rick Collins
At 07:00 PM 9/29/2010, you wrote: Rick Collins wrote: The point I wanted to make is, that there's nothing wrong with our memories but that the 2009 version of IPC-7351 contradicts the 2005 version (probably 2003 as I see now), maybe in order to conform to EIAJ/ANSI 481C. So this conformance sh

Re: gEDA-user: Cutouts

2010-09-29 Thread Dave Kinney
http://www.box.net/shared/3axnnkflhe That is the link. I'm not too worried about cost. I'm really wondering how to create the footprint that has the cutout in it. On Sep 29, 2010, at 7:13 PM, Rick Collins wrote: > What link? > > In general, rectangular openings are not well received by the PW

Re: gEDA-user: Cutouts

2010-09-29 Thread Rick Collins
What link? In general, rectangular openings are not well received by the PWB maker. If they are large enough (somewhere in the range of 0.1 or 0.2 inches wide or more) they can be routed, but that often costs a bit more. A small rectangular pin is typically accommodated by notching the edge

Re: gEDA-user: new footprint guidelines

2010-09-29 Thread Armin Faltl
Rick Collins wrote: The point I wanted to make is, that there's nothing wrong with our memories but that the 2009 version of IPC-7351 contradicts the 2005 version (probably 2003 as I see now), maybe in order to conform to EIAJ/ANSI 481C. So this conformance should be veryfied. Do you have a c

gEDA-user: Cutouts

2010-09-29 Thread dave kinney
Hi, im designing something using a 3.5mm audio jack that is space confined, i need to use a jack that mounts in the middle of the circuit board. unfortunatly i cant figure out how to make the cutout in the footprint or the rectangular(with circular ends) pins. the link is a picture o

Re: gEDA-user: PCB footprints & polygons question

2010-09-29 Thread michalwd1979
Many thanks for clarifications! > > Activate "New polygons are full ones" in the settings menu to disable > removal of islands for new polygons. For existing polgons you can add > the fullpoly flag in a text editor. > > Note to Peter Clifton: This does not work in the OpenGL enables > versi

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA and PCB at DVClub UK - thanks, Chitlesh

2010-09-29 Thread Chitlesh GOORAH
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Gareth Edwards <> wrote: > Hi Chitlesh > > On 28 September 2010 19:03, Chitlesh GOORAH <> wrote: >> You can find the slides on http://www.tandvsolns.co.uk/downloads/ > > Would you mind if I re-presented your slideset to our Hackerspace > (below in .sig)? I'm sure mo

Re: gEDA-user: PCB: Change default file-filter in open-dialog

2010-09-29 Thread Bert Timmerman
Hi Felix, > -Original Message- > From: geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org > [mailto:geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org] On Behalf Of Felix Ruoff > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 11:24 AM > To: gEDA user mailing list > Subject: Re: gEDA-user: PCB: Change default file-filter in open-dialo

gEDA-user: "Concerns in Cleaning Under Low Profile Components at SMTAI 2010"

2010-09-29 Thread Bob Paddock
Anyone here going to this event?: http://www.globalsmt.net/smt/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=11580&Itemid=396 See Kyzen’s Rich Brooks Discuss "Concerns in Cleaning Under Low Profile Components at SMTAI 2010" SMTA International, scheduled to take place October 25-28, 2010 at the Wa

Re: gEDA-user: new footprint guidelines

2010-09-29 Thread Rick Collins
At 08:38 AM 9/29/2010, you wrote: Hi, Rick Collins wrote: At 04:53 PM 9/28/2010, you wrote: For all those, that follow the discussion from here or vaguely remember some other rotations: Rick Collins wrote: I had to go through all this some time ago and recently I wanted to iron out all the

Re: gEDA-user: pcb opengl: ps export malformed

2010-09-29 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Krzysztof =?utf-8?Q?Ko=C5=9Bciuszkiewicz?= wrote: > It seems in Peter's pcb branch ps export does not work as intended. > > For a 2-layer board both front and back copper layers are exported > twice, as indicated by console output during export. When using > multifile export the *.front.ps and *

Re: gEDA-user: gnetlist segmentation fault

2010-09-29 Thread DJ Delorie
> > No, actually, an attribute is required to have a value, > > There seems to be no good design reason for this restriction: an > empty string is still a perfectly good string, just as zero is a > perfectly good number. I agree, this caused me problems during the final phases of my last board -

Re: gEDA-user: gschem sym files

2010-09-29 Thread Karl Hammar
Kai-Martin Knaak: > Karl Hammar wrote: ... > >> 6, add some kind of GUI control to activate/deactivate rules > > Gui things are for others to contribute with, but maybe if we could > > make drc2 react on some attributes? > How about an attribute to the connecting net to silence drc2 at this > spe

Re: gEDA-user: gnetlist segmentation fault

2010-09-29 Thread John Doty
On Sep 29, 2010, at 3:31 AM, Patrick Bernaud wrote: > Hi John, > > John Doty writes: >> [...] >> This is a coding error somewhere. There should be nothing wrong with an >> empty string as an attribute: it's a perfectly good string. > > No, actually, an attribute is required to have a value, T

Re: gEDA-user: gschem sym files

2010-09-29 Thread Karl Hammar
Kai-Martin Knaak: > Karl Hammar wrote: > >> 4, add explicit documentation on the rules in the wiki > > I'm not the wiki man. I could read the code (I assume you mean drc2) > > and try to describe it in text, but someone else has to enter it > > into the wiki. > Ok, if you describe the rules here o

Re: gEDA-user: new footprint guidelines

2010-09-29 Thread Armin Faltl
Hi, Rick Collins wrote: At 04:53 PM 9/28/2010, you wrote: For all those, that follow the discussion from here or vaguely remember some other rotations: Rick Collins wrote: I had to go through all this some time ago and recently I wanted to iron out all the difficulties so that the assembly h

Re: gEDA-user: gschem sym files

2010-09-29 Thread Karl Hammar
Kai-Martin Knaak: > Karl Hammar wrote: > >> 5, add a tutorial on how to adapt the DRC rules to the local needs > Well documented examples would take me a long way. Ok, I'll use http://turkos/git/openhw/wascator_c240/styrkort.sch as an example. * How to tell drc2 which tests to skip: $ gn

Re: gEDA-user: gschem sym files

2010-09-29 Thread Karl Hammar
John Doty: > On Sep 28, 2010, at 12:39 PM, Karl Hammar wrote: > > In gnet-drc2.scm: > > ;; Example: > > ;; (define dont-check-non-numbered-parts 1) ... > > and there is also descriptions how to alter what is allowed to > > connect to what in the file. The problem seems to get that inside > > > > g

Re: gEDA-user: gnetlist segmentation fault

2010-09-29 Thread Patrick Bernaud
Thomas Dean writes: > I have an application which causes a seg fault in gnetlist. I think > this can be fixed by changing the schematic. But, Segmentation fault > is NEVER the proper response. Your issue is similar to bug #3032626 (a malformed attribute as Kai-Martin explained). I have propos

Re: gEDA-user: gnetlist segmentation fault

2010-09-29 Thread Patrick Bernaud
Hi John, John Doty writes: > [...] > This is a coding error somewhere. There should be nothing wrong with an > empty string as an attribute: it's a perfectly good string. No, actually, an attribute is required to have a value, see documentation (and code) for o_attrib_string_get_name_value()

Re: gEDA-user: PCB: Change default file-filter in open-dialog

2010-09-29 Thread Felix Ruoff
Hi Bert, Bert Timmerman wrote: Commit message says it all: Apply filters to load filechooser dialogs. [1988982] [2686963] Applies filters to the filechooser dialogs when loading layouts, layouts (to buffer), elements (to buffer) and netlists. Default behaviour is to not fi