Re: gEDA-user: two more pcb questions

2008-07-31 Thread Dan McMahill
Dave N6NZ wrote: >> 2. Can someone recommend fab houses to make pcbs? >> > I've successfully used: > > pcbexpress.com -- fast, , high quality > apcircuits.com -- fast, , high quality, > batchpcb.com -- slow, $, moderate quality I've had good luck with apcircuits. If you want a 2 layer,

Re: gEDA-user: OT: I hate footprints

2008-07-31 Thread Dan McMahill
Philipp Klaus Krause wrote: > It seems the only way to deal with them is to create each footprint from > scratch eachtime I have to use one. Nearly eachtime I try to use an > existing footprint things turn out wrong. > There seems to be nearly no standardization in these things. Each chip > manufac

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA/gaf development version 1.5.0.20080706 released!

2008-07-31 Thread der Mouse
> IIRC the control key does not create a key-press-event. This is not true at the X level. It may be true at some higher level, but, if so, it's a defect in the interface layer between that level and the underlying X level. /~\ The ASCII der Mouse \ / Ribbon Campaign X

Re: gEDA-user: Help ordering pcb

2008-07-31 Thread phil
>What are the .fab.gbr, front.gbr and frontpaste.gbr files? fab is a fabrication drawing outlining the numbers of holes and sizes and general info. You should send it. gbr. is the artwork for each layer. You should have: top_copper.gbr bottom_copper.gbr top_silk.gbr plated-holes.cnc for a si

Re: gEDA-user: Help ordering pcb

2008-07-31 Thread DJ Delorie
> I'm ordering a pcb from APCircuits. They want me to use their dropdown list > to define each file from the export gerber that PCB spat out. What are the > .fab.gbr, front.gbr and frontpaste.gbr files? Should I include the .net > and .pcb files? In pcb, use the File->Export->Gerber option to

gEDA-user: Help ordering pcb

2008-07-31 Thread Robert Butts
I'm ordering a pcb from APCircuits. They want me to use their dropdown list to define each file from the export gerber that PCB spat out. What are the .fab.gbr, front.gbr and frontpaste.gbr files? Should I include the .net and .pcb files? Thanks ___

Re: gEDA-user: OT: I hate footprints

2008-07-31 Thread Steve Meier
Well, there is a fair amount of standardization. Far from perfect but some exits. Devices which use JEDEC packages seem pretty good, few exceptions where you have to watch out for pin number. But JEDEC doesn't cover every available package. I have been working on a spread sheet where I try to capt

Re: gEDA-user: Newby experiences with the pcb layout tool

2008-07-31 Thread Ben Jackson
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 12:05:17PM +0200, Juergen Harms wrote: > > 2. Usage notes, stability > > Problems: > - I had quite frequent problems adding points to a polygon - but no > serious problem, saving and re-starting pcb always helped It would help to know if you were using thin-drawn polygon

Re: gEDA-user: OT: I hate footprints

2008-07-31 Thread Dave McGuire
On Jul 31, 2008, at 1:14 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: >> It seems the only way to deal with them is to create each >> footprint from >> scratch eachtime I have to use one. Nearly eachtime I try to use an >> existing footprint things turn out wrong. > > We -all- feel your pain. Yep. The one that

Re: gEDA-user: OT: I hate footprints

2008-07-31 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Thursday 31 July 2008 17:29:52 Philipp Klaus Krause wrote: > It seems the only way to deal with them is to create each footprint from > scratch eachtime I have to use one. Nearly eachtime I try to use an > existing footprint things turn out wrong. We -all- feel your pain.

Re: gEDA-user: Test with SVG schematics

2008-07-31 Thread Kevin Bortis
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 6:15 PM, Peter TB Brett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One of the problems we encountered was the question of how to associate > electrical data (connectivity etc) with the graphical elements -- in > particular, the question of how to make symbols and heirachy work well. For

Re: gEDA-user: Can I undo an auto route all rats?

2008-07-31 Thread Robert Butts
Yes, I just figured out how to do it. Thanks On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 12:33 PM, DJ Delorie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I want to backup and reroute a board and I'd like to start with just > > rats again, is this possible? The layout has already been saved. > > Have you tried the "rip up all

Re: gEDA-user: Can I undo an auto route all rats?

2008-07-31 Thread DJ Delorie
> I want to backup and reroute a board and I'd like to start with just > rats again, is this possible? The layout has already been saved. Have you tried the "rip up all autorouted tracks" option? ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org ht

gEDA-user: OT: I hate footprints

2008-07-31 Thread Philipp Klaus Krause
It seems the only way to deal with them is to create each footprint from scratch eachtime I have to use one. Nearly eachtime I try to use an existing footprint things turn out wrong. There seems to be nearly no standardization in these things. Each chip manufacturer gives them a different name, pcb

gEDA-user: Can I undo an auto route all rats?

2008-07-31 Thread Robert Butts
I want to backup and reroute a board and I'd like to start with just rats again, is this possible? The layout has already been saved. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Test with SVG schematics

2008-07-31 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Thursday 31 July 2008 16:38:37 Kevin Bortis wrote: > I think a SVG based schematic format would have huge advantage over > other formats. One is that you could view any schematics direct in a > web browser without need of any EDA Software installed. This is something that Peter Clifton and I d

Re: gEDA-user: Newby experiences with the pcb layout tool

2008-07-31 Thread Juergen Harms
Whow, seeing the pcb forum I had thought that this is a quiet place where not much happens, and just wanted to say great stuff! What you say needs careful replying - I am off for a long weekend, dont know whether I will manage before coming back. Cheers, Juergen ___

Re: gEDA-user: two more pcb questions

2008-07-31 Thread Dave N6NZ
> > 2. Can someone recommend fab houses to make pcbs? > I've successfully used: pcbexpress.com -- fast, , high quality apcircuits.com -- fast, , high quality, batchpcb.com -- slow, $, moderate quality -dave ___ geda-user mailing list geda-u

Re: gEDA-user: Newby experiences with the pcb layout tool

2008-07-31 Thread Dave N6NZ
Juergen Harms wrote: > > 3. Wishes > > - Be able to export directly to Gerber - I presently export the .pcb > files to a windows system and use the GC-Preview tool from ... I have > seen that an alfa release of a Gerber previewer exists at Sourceforge, > but that does not allow to import .pcb

Re: gEDA-user: Test with SVG schematics

2008-07-31 Thread Kevin Bortis
What I have forgotten to say, the SVG contains all metadata for schematics. I added them by extend the SVG DTD with private elements and attributes ( http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/extend.html#PrivateElementsAndAttribute ). On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Kevin Bortis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, >

Re: gEDA-user: Newby experiences with the pcb layout tool

2008-07-31 Thread Ian Chapman
1. Installation: - There is no way to have non-copper holes (even adding 0x08 to the flags does not help) - forget it == Pin[-39800 0 7500 2000 6500 5550 "Pin_2" "2" "pin"] Pin[21800 0 7500 2000 6500 5550 "H1" "3" "hole"] Hole I guess goes onto the unplated drill fil

gEDA-user: Test with SVG schematics

2008-07-31 Thread Kevin Bortis
Hi, I read something about the SVG capabilities of Safari (WebKit.org based web browser) in the morning. After the reading, I thought it could also be possible to implement a complete SVG based file format for schematics. After some reading of the SVG standard specification, I wrote a basic schem

Re: gEDA-user: Newby experiences with the pcb layout tool

2008-07-31 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:05:17 +0200, Juergen Harms wrote: > Problems: > - I had quite frequent problems adding points to a polygon - but no > serious problem, saving and re-starting pcb always helped can you be a bit more specific on how to reproduce the problems? > - There is no way to have non

Re: gEDA-user: file format for symbols (to automatically build symbols)

2008-07-31 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:17:14 -0400, Christopher Friedt wrote: > Does anyone know if gschem has a 'symbol wizard' or a scripting > interface (or could one possibly write a script to generate a schematic > file?) Some of these have already been written. Chances are, one of them is already installe

gEDA-user: Newby experiences with the pcb layout tool

2008-07-31 Thread Juergen Harms
My felicitations, that is a great tool! Here are a couple of observations which might be interesting to other users. 1. Installation: Platform : Mandriva-Linux 2008.1 Additional rpm-packages required: byacc, libgtk+2.0_0-devel, gd-utils, libgd-devel. With these packages installed, installatio

Re: gEDA-user: file format for symbols (to automatically build symbols)

2008-07-31 Thread Ales Hvezda
[snip] >In other words, what is the file format of a symbol in the library? > http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:file_format_spec -Ales ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user