Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

I ("new moderator") won't recount what happened, it is neither here, or there, but Mark is presenting a very biased view of what occured, and also one of the reasons why he no longer is a moderator. The claims about doxxing, etc, are entierly untrue and unfounded.

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

Dear Alfred and Alexandre, It seems that neither of you would like to offer any evidence that counteracts what I have already been given by multiple individuals. Furthermore, Alexandre: > A misguided person thought that reciprocating the doxxing against RMS > was a good way to defend him. I

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

Dear Giacomo, On Tue, Mar 30 2021, Giacomo Tesio wrote: > On Tue, 30 Mar 2021 18:50:52 +0200 Martin Jambor wrote: > >> Unfortunately, all people are also able to close their eyes and ears >> and ignore mistreatment when they are not the victims and when their >> friend or their favorite public fig

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

To me (not being a contributor) this is the best contribution to the discussion so far. Am 30.03.2021 um 17:24 schrieb Maksim Fomin via Gcc: ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Friday, 26 March 2021 г., 23:02, Nathan Sidwell wrote: I would rather not have to write this email. Like many deve

Interested In extend the static analysis pass

Hey Team GNU Compiler, I'm Gagandeep Bhatia, currently pursuing the 2nd year at Christ University, Bangalore, India. You can reach me at gagandeepbhatia2...@gmail.com or +919466935025. I went through your upcoming projects on Google Summer of Code, your ide

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

Hi Giacomo, On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 11:28:49PM +0200, Giacomo Tesio wrote: > I've to say I'm a bit confused, but maybe we have different sources and > experience so we have different perspective on the matter. Yes, I am pretty sure the perspective changes for people who have had longer, or more d

Re: GSoC 2021 (incremental LTO)

Hi Dmitry, we are delighted you found contributing to GCC interesting. On Mon, Mar 29 2021, Dmitry Torilov via Gcc wrote: > Greetings, > > I saw a task on your site for GSoC called < Optimization (LTO) linking>>. I am very interested in it, and I would > like to know if it is possible to do it th

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 1:36 PM Mark Wielaard wrote: > > You are referencing the recent open letter which isn't really what > people are discussing here. Although many probably sympathize with > calling for the removal of the entire Board of the Free Software > Foundation and calling for Richard M

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 at 12:36, Mark Wielaard wrote: > Again, it isn't about this one or two incidents. I am sure someone can > find a way to explained it away by saying people simply misunderstood > his intentions or that no law was broken. But it is about a pattern of > behavior that shows RMS crea

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 at 13:29, Richard Biener wrote: > And just to repeat - all the GCC governance structure (the "SC") represents > all of the same non-openess as the FSF governance structure (because > the "SC" is in fact appointed by the Chief GNUisance "or his delegates"). The SC was appointed

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 8:28 AM Richard Biener via Gcc wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 1:36 PM Mark Wielaard wrote: > > > > You are referencing the recent open letter which isn't really what > > people are discussing here. Although many probably sympathize with > > calling for the removal of t

Re: Interested In extend the static analysis pass

Just one comment ... On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 at 12:30, Gagandeep Bhatia via Gcc wrote: > Right now the code is in GCC’s master branch for GCC 10 N.B. the master branch is for GCC 11. Make sure you are using that, not the gcc-10 branch, as there are lots of improvements to the static analysis code.

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 2:59 PM David Edelsohn wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 8:28 AM Richard Biener via Gcc > wrote: > > > > On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 1:36 PM Mark Wielaard wrote: > > > > > > You are referencing the recent open letter which isn't really what > > > people are discussing here.

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

Hi Martin, On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 10:53:20 +0200 Martin Jambor wrote: > Dear Giacomo, > > On Tue, Mar 30 2021, Giacomo Tesio wrote: > > On Tue, 30 Mar 2021 18:50:52 +0200 Martin Jambor wrote: > > > >> Unfortunately, all people are also able to close their eyes and > >> ears and ignore mistreatmen

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

Hi Mark, I'm a bit in a hurry and do not really want to focus on what happened in Harvey: to my eyes that story just show you cannot trust people just because they are nice and well known "open source" contributors, or because they work for big multinational that "do no evil" or even join the Good

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

* David Edelsohn via Gcc: > Has the GCC SC blocked any new port or major feature? Not that I'm aware of. What about the plugin framework? The libgcc licensing change would not have happened naturally. Someone had to step in and delay the plugin framework feature until the licensing changes wer

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 at 14:30, Giacomo Tesio wrote: > But people, groups and incentives changes. > Stallman does not. Well, he's not immortal. Are you really suggesting that his crowning achievement (the free software movement and copyleft) is actually not sustainable, and only works if he's watchi

Re: Interested In extend the static analysis pass

On Wed, 2021-03-31 at 16:59 +0530, Gagandeep Bhatia via Gcc wrote: > Hey Team GNU Compiler, I'm Gagandeep Bhatia, currently pursuing the > 2nd year at Christ University, Bangalore, India. You can reach me at > gagandeepbhatia2...@gmail.com  > or +919466935025.

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 11:34 PM > From: "Mark Wielaard" > To: "Giacomo Tesio" > Cc: "GCC Development" , "Nathan Sidwell" > Subject: Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee > > Hi Giacomo, > > On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 11:28:49PM +0200, Giacomo Tesio wrote: > > I've to say

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

I may have lost it in the enormous flood of text, but I want to ask these general questions. 1. Is there a published code of conduct for GCC community members, possibly different ones depending on which level of the organization you're in? 2. Is there a formal process for receiving claims of in

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 9:23 AM Paul Koning via Gcc wrote: > I may have lost it in the enormous flood of text, but I want to ask these > general questions. > > 1. Is there a published code of conduct for GCC community members, > possibly different ones depending on which level of the organization

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2021 at 1:28 AM > From: "Giacomo Tesio" > To: "Mark Wielaard" > Cc: "GCC Development" , "Nathan Sidwell" > Subject: Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee > > Hi Mark, > > I'm a bit in a hurry and do not really want to focus on what happened > in Harvey: to

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

On Wed, 2021-03-31 at 16:18 +0200, Christopher Dimech via Gcc wrote: [...snip...] > As for the "safe spaces" phase, this is about eliminating anything > and > everything that could emotionally troubling students. This assumes a > high > degree of fragility among western students.  I work as a jou

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Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 9:46 AM Florian Weimer wrote: > > * David Edelsohn via Gcc: > > > Has the GCC SC blocked any new port or major feature? Not that I'm aware > > of. > > What about the plugin framework? The libgcc licensing change would > not have happened naturally. Someone had to step i

Having trouble getting my school to sign the copyright disclaimer

Hello, I’m trying to get my school to sign the copyright disclaimer. Unfortunately the officials are reluctant to do that. Can anyone suggest what to do next? They claim that university owns copyright to my code if I wrote it for a school-related research project. However, since I’m an undergra

Re: Having trouble getting my school to sign the copyright disclaimer

On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 11:28 AM PKU via Gcc wrote: > > Hello, > > I’m trying to get my school to sign the copyright disclaimer. Unfortunately > the officials are reluctant to do that. Can anyone suggest what to do next? > > They claim that university owns copyright to my code if I wrote it for a

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

On March 31, 2021 5:23:09 PM GMT+02:00, David Edelsohn wrote: >On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 9:46 AM Florian Weimer >wrote: >> >> * David Edelsohn via Gcc: >> >> > Has the GCC SC blocked any new port or major feature? Not that I'm >aware of. >> >> What about the plugin framework? The libgcc licensin

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 5:28 AM Richard Biener via Gcc wrote: > > And just to repeat - all the GCC governance structure (the "SC") represents > all of the same non-openess as the FSF governance structure (because > the "SC" is in fact appointed by the Chief GNUisance "or his delegates"). While th

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2021 at 2:56 AM > From: "David Malcolm" > To: "Christopher Dimech" , "Mark Wielaard" > Cc: "GCC Development" , "Nathan Sidwell" > Subject: Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee > > On Wed, 2021-03-31 at 16:18 +0200, Christopher Dimech via Gcc wrote: > > [...

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 7:44 AM Joel Sherrill wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 9:23 AM Paul Koning via Gcc wrote: > > > I may have lost it in the enormous flood of text, but I want to ask these > > general questions. > > > > 1. Is there a published code of conduct for GCC community members, > >

Re: [GSoC-2021] Interested in project `Extend the static analysis pass`

On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 6:42 PM David Malcolm wrote: > On Tue, 2021-03-30 at 16:06 +0530, Saloni Garg wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 8:03 PM David Malcolm > > wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 2021-03-28 at 18:06 +0530, Saloni Garg wrote: > > > > Hi, I have tried the following examples with the fanal

Re: Having trouble getting my school to sign the copyright disclaimer

> They claim that university owns copyright to my code if I wrote it > for a school-related research project. That's potentially correct. And the purpose of them signing the disclaimer is to release that interest so that only you need to sign the assignment. The other way of doing it would be f

Re: Having trouble getting my school to sign the copyright disclaimer

On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 8:27 AM PKU via Gcc wrote: > I’m trying to get my school to sign the copyright disclaimer. > Unfortunately the officials are reluctant to do that. Can anyone suggest > what to do next? > Maybe the PLCT Lab at the Chinese Academy of Sciences can help. They are doing GCC a

Re: [GSoC-2021] Interested in project `Extend the static analysis pass`

On Wed, 2021-03-31 at 21:41 +0530, Saloni Garg wrote: > On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 6:42 PM David Malcolm > wrote: > > > On Tue, 2021-03-30 at 16:06 +0530, Saloni Garg wrote: > > > On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 8:03 PM David Malcolm < > > > dmalc...@redhat.com> > > > wrote: [...snip...] > > > > No, it's

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

[I previously sent this from another email account, but it seems to be lost. I am sending this on behalf of the GCC Steering Committee.] In 2012 RMS was added to the GCC Steering Committee web page based on his role in the GNU Project, though his role as a member of the Steering Committee has bee

RMS removed from the GCC Steering Committee (was: Remove RMS...)

Hi David, thanks for sharing! On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 14:27:29 -0400 David Edelsohn via Gcc wrote: > In 2012 RMS was added to the GCC Steering Committee web page > based on his role in the GNU Project [...] > we are removing him from the page. I have to admit that I had never carefully observed the

Re: RMS removed from the GCC Steering Committee (was: Remove RMS...)

On 3/31/2021 5:11 PM, Giacomo Tesio wrote: 10 out of 13 members of the GCC steering committee work either for American corporations (8), their subsidiaries (1) or an American University (1) recently covered by the press in India [3]. Also, 4 of these work for the same corporation (IBM / Red Ha

Re: RMS removed from the GCC Steering Committee (was: Remove RMS...)

Hi Jeff, thanks for fixing your affiliation, but let me note that it doesn't change a dime for the geopolitical-diversity issue that affects GCC since before RMS joined the Steering Committee. On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 17:35:36 -0600 Jeff Law wrote: > > To me, and to billions of people, this shows a

Re: RMS removed from the GCC Steering Committee

On 2021-03-31 17:04, Giacomo Tesio wrote: Hi Jeff, thanks for fixing your affiliation, but let me note that it doesn't change a dime for the geopolitical-diversity issue that affects GCC since before RMS joined the Steering Committee. Not to argue counter to the observation that there is cle