Re: Exhaustive Instructions for Toolchain Generation

2017-10-04 Thread David Brown
On 03/10/17 23:27, R0b0t1 wrote: > On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 4:35 PM, Sandra Loosemore > wrote: >> On 09/26/2017 03:05 PM, R0b0t1 wrote: >>> Is there anything else I should be aware of? >> >> >> Yes, there are companies (like, ahem, the one I work for -- >> CodeSourcery/Mentor/Siemens) who provide c

Re: Exhaustive Instructions for Toolchain Generation

2017-10-04 Thread Jonathan Wakely
On 3 October 2017 at 22:27, R0b0t1 wrote: > I decline to do your company's market research for them. They could choose > to pay me, of course. Based on the failures I am experiencing I doubt that > your company has gotten the build process entirely correct. Given that you apparently only recently

Re: Exhaustive Instructions for Toolchain Generation

2017-10-04 Thread Nathan Sidwell
On 10/04/2017 06:34 AM, Jonathan Wakely wrote: On 3 October 2017 at 22:27, R0b0t1 wrote: I decline to do your company's market research for them. They could choose to pay me, of course. Based on the failures I am experiencing I doubt that your company has gotten the build process entirely correc

Re: GNU Tools Cauldron 2017 follow up: "Reviewed-by" etc.

2017-10-04 Thread Thomas Schwinge
Hi! Ping. On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 20:37:50 +0200, I wrote: > On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 12:18:39 -0600, Carlos O'Donell wrote: > > On 09/21/2017 11:56 AM, Richard Biener wrote: > > > On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 11:38:29 -0600, Carlos O'Donell > > > wrote: > > > > On 09/21/2017 10:50 AM, Thomas Schwinge wrote: >

Re: strlen optimizations based on whether stpcpy is declared?

2017-10-04 Thread Martin Sebor
On 10/02/2017 12:53 PM, Martin Sebor wrote: On 10/02/2017 12:00 PM, Jakub Jelinek wrote: On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 11:45:24AM -0600, Martin Sebor wrote: What's more, in strict mode GCC transforms stpcpy calls to strcpy. Only if the result is not needed or if the length of the source string is a

Re: Exhaustive Instructions for Toolchain Generation

2017-10-04 Thread Joseph Myers
There are over 25000 words of GCC installation documentation in install.texi, and that's not even including e.g. libstdc++ configure options documented elsewhere. Other toolchain components also have such documentation. It's true that, as a consequence of the toolchain being made up of multip

Re: Exhaustive Instructions for Toolchain Generation

2017-10-04 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 11:25 AM, Joseph Myers wrote: > There are over 25000 words of GCC installation documentation in > install.texi, and that's not even including e.g. libstdc++ configure > options documented elsewhere. Other toolchain components also have such > documentation. > > It's true th

Re: Exhaustive Instructions for Toolchain Generation

2017-10-04 Thread Joseph Myers
On Wed, 4 Oct 2017, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > Of the thousands of hits when searching for the information on a task > like compiling GCC, there's probably a handful of good sources. > Everything else is just crap on the web that someone decided to blog > about. (This is speaking from experience). T

Re: Exhaustive Instructions for Toolchain Generation

2017-10-04 Thread Jonathan Wakely
On 4 October 2017 at 17:14, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > Maybe some of the first steps is to (1) recognize the information > management problem, and (2) provide information dissemination that's > {amicable|consistent|?} with what's occurring in 2017. I mean, What does that mean in concrete terms? > RE

Re: Exhaustive Instructions for Toolchain Generation

2017-10-04 Thread Jonathan Wakely
On 4 October 2017 at 17:25, Jonathan Wakely wrote: > On 4 October 2017 at 17:14, Jeffrey Walton wrote: >> Maybe some of the first steps is to (1) recognize the information >> management problem, and (2) provide information dissemination that's >> {amicable|consistent|?} with what's occurring in 201

Re: Exhaustive Instructions for Toolchain Generation

2017-10-04 Thread Jeffrey Walton
>>> For completeness, GCC has a wiki. But I still don't have an account to >>> make an occasional update; and I still don't know how to get an >>> account. I tried to get one in the past but the process was broken so >>> I gave up. >> >> 1) create an account >> 2) get your username added to the rig

Re: Exhaustive Instructions for Toolchain Generation

2017-10-04 Thread Jonathan Wakely
On 4 October 2017 at 17:45, Jeffrey Walton wrote: For completeness, GCC has a wiki. But I still don't have an account to make an occasional update; and I still don't know how to get an account. I tried to get one in the past but the process was broken so I gave up. >>> >>> 1) cr

Re: pass manager question

2017-10-04 Thread Sandra Loosemore
On 10/03/2017 10:45 AM, Sandra Loosemore wrote: On 10/03/2017 05:36 AM, Martin Jambor wrote: Hi, On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 01:27:05PM -0600, Sandra Loosemore wrote: Is there an idiom for target-specific back end code to ask the pass manager if a particular pass (e.g., "split1") has already run?

Re: Exhaustive Instructions for Toolchain Generation

2017-10-04 Thread Manuel López-Ibáñez
On 04/10/17 00:22, Sandra Loosemore wrote: On 10/03/2017 03:27 PM, R0b0t1 wrote: On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 4:35 PM, Sandra Loosemore mailto:san...@codesourcery.com>> wrote: [snip] FAOD, R0b0t1 forwarded mail I deliberately sent off-list back to the list.  I do know that business solicitations a

Re: Exhaustive Instructions for Toolchain Generation

2017-10-04 Thread Nathan Sidwell
On 10/04/2017 02:10 PM, Manuel López-Ibáñez wrote: Incidentally, I don't understand why there is no "Professional Support" page where we can direct people to find professional support. It could My recollection is that the FSF explicitly prohibit this. nathan -- Nathan Sidwell

Slides from GNU Tools Cauldron

2017-10-04 Thread Jan Hubicka
Hello, all but one videos from this year Cauldron has been edited and are now linked from https://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/cauldron2017 (plugins BoF will appear till end of week). I would also like to update the page with links to slides. If someone beats me on this and adds some or all of them as attach

Re: Exhaustive Instructions for Toolchain Generation

2017-10-04 Thread Manuel López-Ibáñez
On 4 Oct 2017 8:01 pm, "Nathan Sidwell" wrote: On 10/04/2017 02:10 PM, Manuel López-Ibáñez wrote: Incidentally, I don't understand why there is no "Professional Support" > page where we can direct people to find professional support. It could > My recollection is that the FSF explicitly prohibi

gcc-6-20171004 is now available

2017-10-04 Thread gccadmin
Snapshot gcc-6-20171004 is now available on ftp://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/snapshots/6-20171004/ and on various mirrors, see http://gcc.gnu.org/mirrors.html for details. This snapshot has been generated from the GCC 6 SVN branch with the following options: svn://gcc.gnu.org/svn/gcc/branches/gcc-6