Re: Copyright assignment wiki page

2008-04-08 Thread Florian Weimer
* Richard Kenner: >> This is probably true for a country like the USA, but like FX >> the FSF didn't ask a disclaimer from my employer: in France >> as long as you don't use your employer ressources to contribute >> your employer has absolutely no say on what you do outside your work. > > That's t

Re: Copyright assignment wiki page

2008-04-08 Thread Paolo Bonzini
Then I suggest changing our contribute page from contact us (either via the gcc@gcc.gnu.org list or the GCC maintainer that is taking care of your contributions) to obtain the relevant forms to contact us (either via the gcc@gcc.gnu.org list or a GCC Steering Commitee member) to obtain the

Re: Copyright assignment wiki page

2008-04-08 Thread FX Coudert
Moreover, our contribute page says "the GCC maintainer that is taking care of your contributions" and there is no documentation to maintainers, so that part at least is wrong: maintainers don't know what to do. Or else, I just didn't receive the maintainer welcome package including the appr

Re: Copyright assignment wiki page

2008-04-07 Thread Jim Wilson
FX Coudert wrote: Moreover, our contribute page says "the GCC maintainer that is taking care of your contributions" and there is no documentation to maintainers, so that part at least is wrong: maintainers don't know what to do. Or else, I just didn't receive the maintainer welcome package inc

Re: Copyright assignment wiki page

2008-04-07 Thread Manuel López-Ibáñez
On 07/04/2008, FX Coudert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Then, I think the FSF has no solution but to discard contributions from > quite a few people. How many employers actually are going to issue such a > disclaimer? In all academic places I know, at least, you'll never get > anything like that,

Re: Copyright assignment wiki page

2008-04-07 Thread Ian Lance Taylor
FX Coudert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> That's true in the US as well, but what happens later on if your >> employer >> comes by later on and claims you DID use employer resources? Where >> would >> that leave the FSF? Very few employees have deep enough pockets to >> indemnify the FSF from th

Re: Copyright assignment wiki page

2008-04-07 Thread FX Coudert
I'm afraid I have to ask to remove the form from that Wiki. :-( You're welcome to remove it yourself, but please replace them with appropriate, *clear* documentation of the copyright assignment process. The recent past (including my own experience some years ago) has shown that http://gcc.

Re: Copyright assignment wiki page

2008-04-07 Thread Laurent GUERBY
On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 17:03 -0400, Richard Kenner wrote: > > This is probably true for a country like the USA, but like FX > > the FSF didn't ask a disclaimer from my employer: in France > > as long as you don't use your employer ressources to contribute > > your employer has absolutely no say on w

Re: Copyright assignment wiki page

2008-04-07 Thread FX Coudert
That's true in the US as well, but what happens later on if your employer comes by later on and claims you DID use employer resources? Where would that leave the FSF? Very few employees have deep enough pockets to indemnify the FSF from their employer! Then, I think the FSF has no solution

Re: Copyright assignment wiki page

2008-04-07 Thread Richard Kenner
> This is probably true for a country like the USA, but like FX > the FSF didn't ask a disclaimer from my employer: in France > as long as you don't use your employer ressources to contribute > your employer has absolutely no say on what you do outside your work. That's true in the US as well, but

Re: Copyright assignment wiki page

2008-04-07 Thread Laurent GUERBY
On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 09:40 -0700, Joe Buck wrote: > On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 05:09:35PM +0100, FX wrote: > > The web page documentation at http://gcc.gnu.org/contribute.html > > doesn't really have the specifics of getting a copyright assignment > > done in the simple case of an individual contribu

Re: Copyright assignment wiki page

2008-04-07 Thread Gerald Pfeifer
On Mon, 7 Apr 2008, FX wrote: > The web page documentation at http://gcc.gnu.org/contribute.html > doesn't really have the specifics of getting a copyright assignment > done in the simple case of an individual contributing on his free > time. I've set up a wiki page that we can refer people to, at

Re: Copyright assignment wiki page

2008-04-07 Thread FX
> This page has a major problem. The FSF wants the employer disclaimer > in all cases. The process that I describe is the one I went through, and other people as well to my knowledge. If you (truthfully) answer "no" to the question about employer/university ownership claims, I don't think they

Re: Copyright assignment wiki page

2008-04-07 Thread Joe Buck
On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 05:09:35PM +0100, FX wrote: > > The web page documentation at http://gcc.gnu.org/contribute.html > > doesn't really have the specifics of getting a copyright assignment > > done in the simple case of an individual contributing on his free > > time. I've set up a wiki page th

Re: Copyright assignment wiki page

2008-04-07 Thread Joe Buck
On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 05:09:35PM +0100, FX wrote: > The web page documentation at http://gcc.gnu.org/contribute.html > doesn't really have the specifics of getting a copyright assignment > done in the simple case of an individual contributing on his free > time. I've set up a wiki page that we ca

Copyright assignment wiki page

2008-04-07 Thread FX
The web page documentation at http://gcc.gnu.org/contribute.html doesn't really have the specifics of getting a copyright assignment done in the simple case of an individual contributing on his free time. I've set up a wiki page that we can refer people to, at http://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/CopyrightAssig