Please move these off-topic discussions somewhere else, people are
already annoyed and angry as it is -- on both sides!
On Sat, 10 Apr 2021, Giacomo Tesio wrote:
> In fact, the mail boxes of the Steering Committee's members are
> stored on their corporate servers.
You keep making statements which are simply wrong.
None of my GCC-related e-mails touch the servers of my employer,
nor servers under the control of my
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On Fri, 9 Apr 2021, Giacomo Tesio wrote:
> GCC is clearly an US-only project.
This is simply incorrect.
> A US-corporate one. Totally SFW (in the US).
As is this.
> This is not intended as an insult.
> It's just a fact.
Ex falso quodlibet.
Gerald
On Sat, 10 Apr 2021, Richard Kenner via Gcc wrote:
> I really think that most of the people replying on this thread have a
> much more encompassing view of "GCC governance" than actually exists.
There are a number of people arguing here who have contributed little
to nothing to GCC, whose names e
> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 8:10 AM
> From: "Richard Kenner"
> To: rodg...@appliantology.com
> Cc: david.br...@hesbynett.no, dim...@gmx.com, g...@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF
>
> > So, that's a solid 'no' on the likelihood of you contributing
> > anything of value to
On Sat, 10 Apr 2021, 21:10 Alexandre Oliva via Gcc, wrote:
> On Apr 10, 2021, Bronek Kozicki via Gcc wrote:
>
> > It is called "actions have consequences".
>
> FTR, what consequences do you believe would be adequate for such actions
> as spreading difamatory rumors about an innocent person?
>
>
> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 7:52 AM
> From: "Thomas Rodgers"
> To: "Giacomo Tesio"
> Cc: gcc@gcc.gnu.org, "Pankaj Jangid"
> Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF
>
> On 2021-04-10 09:01, Giacomo Tesio wrote:
>
> > It's fantastic how inclusive you are, isn't it? :-D
> >
> > Indeed you
> But it's quite obvious, after you removed RMS's oversight on SC's decisions.
The SC is the "GNU maintainer" for GCC. The GNU project has oversight on
the maintainers of every GNU project, including GCC. The change to the
web page didn't affect that: RMS still has oversight on the SC's
decision
> So, that's a solid 'no' on the likelihood of you contributing
> anything of value to the discussion of GCC governance then?
I really think that most of the people replying on this thread have a
much more encompassing view of "GCC governance" than actually exists.
On 2021-04-10 09:01, Giacomo Tesio wrote:
It's fantastic how inclusive you are, isn't it? :-D
Indeed you ARE inclusive to those who share your interests, like
Nathan.
Just not to everybody else.
I share with Nathan an interest in making GCC the best C++ compiler and
standard library, and
On Apr 10, 2021, Bronek Kozicki via Gcc wrote:
> It is called "actions have consequences".
FTR, what consequences do you believe would be adequate for such actions
as spreading difamatory rumors about an innocent person?
I ask because some of the people campaigning against RMS have already
disc
At 11:39 AM 4/10/2021 +0100, Jonathan Wakely wrote:
On Sat, 10 Apr 2021 at 11:30, Sidney Marshall
wrote:
>
> When compiling the last few releases of GCC I get many warnings in
> format strings of the form:
>
> ../../gcc-10.3.0/gcc/analyzer/region-model.cc: In member function
> 'void ana::sva
> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 4:34 AM
> From: "David Brown"
> To: "Pankaj Jangid" , gcc@gcc.gnu.org
> Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF
>
> On 10/04/2021 14:58, Pankaj Jangid wrote:
> >
> > I have never said that the project will survive without maintainers. I
> > just asked you to cou
On Sat, 2021-04-10 at 21:18 +0530, Saloni Garg wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 8:19 AM David Malcolm
> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 2021-04-07 at 01:59 +0530, Saloni Garg wrote:
[...]
> > Looking at:
> > https://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/SummerOfCode#Application
> > we don't have a specific format to be follo
> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 4:14 AM
> From: "Thomas Rodgers"
> To: "Christopher Dimech"
> Cc: "David Brown" , g...@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF
>
> On 2021-04-10 08:54, Christopher Dimech wrote:
>
> <...snip...>
>
> > If you create a very pleasant wonderful atmosphere
On 10/04/2021 14:58, Pankaj Jangid wrote:
>
> I have never said that the project will survive without maintainers. I
> just asked you to count me as well. Success of the project also depends
> on how widely it is used. And you need to look at the reasons why people
> are using it.
>
I think it i
On 2021-04-10 08:54, Christopher Dimech wrote:
<...snip...>
If you create a very pleasant wonderful atmosphere, everybody behaves
wonderfully. If you create an unpleasant atmosphere, a whole lot of
people act nasty. That's how it is.
This is crux of it really. For many RMS has very much cre
> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 4:01 AM
> From: "Giacomo Tesio"
> To: gcc@gcc.gnu.org, "Thomas Rodgers" , "Jonathan
> Wakely"
> Cc: "Pankaj Jangid"
> Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF
>
> It's fantastic how inclusive you are, isn't it? :-D
>
> Indeed you ARE inclusive to those who
> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 3:59 AM
> From: "David Malcolm"
> To: "Thomas Rodgers" , "Christopher Dimech"
>
> Cc: g...@gnu.org, "David Brown"
> Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF
>
> On Sat, 2021-04-10 at 08:17 -0700, Thomas Rodgers wrote:
> > On 2021-04-09 14:34, Christopher Dimec
It's fantastic how inclusive you are, isn't it? :-D
Indeed you ARE inclusive to those who share your interests, like Nathan.
Just not to everybody else.
But it's quite obvious, after you removed RMS's oversight on SC's decisions.
And now I'm depicted as a "concern troll", because I don't share
On Sat, 2021-04-10 at 08:17 -0700, Thomas Rodgers wrote:
> On 2021-04-09 14:34, Christopher Dimech wrote:
>
> > > On the contrary, I eagerly await each and every one of your
> > > missives
> > > on
> > > this topic, hoping for exactly that very thing to occur.
[...]
> On 2021-04-10 07:49, Chri
> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 3:17 AM
> From: "Thomas Rodgers"
> To: "Christopher Dimech"
> Cc: "David Brown" , g...@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF
>
> On 2021-04-09 14:34, Christopher Dimech wrote:
>
> >> On the contrary, I eagerly await each and every one of your missi
On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 8:19 AM David Malcolm wrote:
> On Wed, 2021-04-07 at 01:59 +0530, Saloni Garg wrote:
> > Hi, apologies for the delayed reply. I was having some college
> > commitments.
> > On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 11:22 PM David Malcolm
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 2021-03-31 at 21:41 +053
On Sat, 10 Apr 2021, 15:38 John Darrington,
wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 01:50:42PM +0100, Bronek Kozicki via Gcc wrote:
>
> I would
> very much prefer if a person who openly expressed opinions, and also
> openly
> exercised behaviours, which I consider abhorrent, was *not*
> a
> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 12:37 AM
> From: "David Brown"
> To: "John Darrington"
> Cc: "Christopher Dimech" , "David Malcolm"
> , g...@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF
>
>
>
> On 09/04/2021 20:36, John Darrington wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 07:01:07PM +0200, Dav
On 2021-04-09 14:34, Christopher Dimech wrote:
On the contrary, I eagerly await each and every one of your missives
on
this topic, hoping for exactly that very thing to occur.
I do not see how you and your friends at redhat could really get any
value
from it, because being a seeker of truth
On 2021-04-10 05:35, Jonathan Wakely via Gcc wrote:
On Sat, 10 Apr 2021, 12:57 Pankaj Jangid,
wrote:
Jonathan Wakely via Gcc writes:
You are clueless about what the SC actually does, or the control they
have over GCC.
I think, it would be great help if someone can document what the SC
does.
> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 12:27 AM
> From: "David Brown"
> To: "Christopher Dimech"
> Cc: "John Darrington" , "David Malcolm"
> , g...@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF
>
> On 09/04/2021 20:02, Christopher Dimech wrote:
> >
> >> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2021 at 5:01
On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 01:50:42PM +0100, Bronek Kozicki via Gcc wrote:
I would
very much prefer if a person who openly expressed opinions, and also openly
exercised behaviours, which I consider abhorrent, was *not* associated with
the GCC project. It does not matter to me
On Sat, 10 Apr 2021, 13:50 David Brown, wrote:
> On 09/04/2021 20:02, Christopher Dimech wrote:
> >
> >> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2021 at 5:01 AM
> >> From: "David Brown"
>
> >>
> >> Different opinions are fine. Bringing national or international
> >> politics into the discussion (presumably m
Gabriel Ravier via Gcc writes:
>> What is this man? Are you trying to compute the probability of survival
>> a project? You forgot to count me. I am one of the users of GCC. If
>> there are no users then the project is dead; however heavyweight the
>> maintainers are.
>>
>> And let me also tell y
Hello there
As a long time GCC user, who is also a father to teenage children, I would
very much prefer if a person who openly expressed opinions, and also openly
exercised behaviours, which I consider abhorrent, was *not* associated with
the GCC project. It does not matter to me what kind of cont
On 09/04/2021 20:36, John Darrington wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 07:01:07PM +0200, David Brown wrote:
>
> Different opinions are fine. Bringing national or international
> politics into the discussion (presumably meant to be as an insult) is
> not fine. This is not a
On Sat, 10 Apr 2021, 12:57 Pankaj Jangid, wrote:
> Jonathan Wakely via Gcc writes:
>
> > You are clueless about what the SC actually does, or the control they
> > have over GCC.
>
> I think, it would be great help if someone can document what the SC
> does.
>
https://gcc.gnu.org/steering.html
On 09/04/2021 20:02, Christopher Dimech wrote:
>
>> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2021 at 5:01 AM
>> From: "David Brown"
>>
>> Different opinions are fine. Bringing national or international
>> politics into the discussion (presumably meant to be as an insult) is
>> not fine. This is not a politic
在 2021/4/10 下午3:22, Jonathan Wakely 写道:
I don't about David, but the reason I take it off-list is that there is more than one form that
might be appropriate, depending on the contributor's situation. The forms are available online (e.g.
in the gnulib repo) but discussing what is suitable, and
Jonathan Wakely via Gcc writes:
> You are clueless about what the SC actually does, or the control they
> have over GCC.
I think, it would be great help if someone can document what the SC
does.
I've already replied to this user more than once and tried to explain
how to submit patches. I suggest we ignore them now.
On Sat, 10 Apr 2021 at 11:42, Veerpal Kaur via Gcc wrote:
>
> Dear mam/sir.
>
> I am Veerpal Kaur, I have good knowledge of HTML, CSS, Bootstrap,
> JavaScript, Reactjs, SQL,
On Sat, 10 Apr 2021 at 11:30, Sidney Marshall wrote:
>
> When compiling the last few releases of GCC I get many warnings in
> format strings of the form:
>
> ../../gcc-10.3.0/gcc/analyzer/region-model.cc: In member function
> 'void ana::svalue_id::dump_node_name_to_pp(pretty_printer*) const':
> ..
Dear mam/sir.
I am Veerpal Kaur, I have good knowledge of HTML, CSS, Bootstrap,
JavaScript, Reactjs, SQL, MySQL, MongoDB, etc. Now I want to contribute to
the GCC Web site and want to make it more user-friendly.
I have one problem that I am unable to find a mentor for this project.
Please mam/sir
When compiling the last few releases of GCC I get many warnings in
format strings of the form:
../../gcc-10.3.0/gcc/analyzer/region-model.cc: In member function
'void ana::svalue_id::dump_node_name_to_pp(pretty_printer*) const':
../../gcc-10.3.0/gcc/analyzer/region-model.cc:205:19: warning:
un
Richard Biener wrote:
The GNU Compiler Collection version 10.3 has been released.
I believe that this is the best release for Darwin in some time, it includes
a) The first released version to support Darwin20 (macOS 11)
b) Fixes for some long-standing serious bugs affecting older OS versions
On Sat, 10 Apr 2021, 03:37 Liu Hao via Gcc, wrote:
> 在 2021/4/9 下午11:06, David Edelsohn via Gcc 写道:
> > Replied privately.
> >
>
> Excuse me, but why this has to be done privately? I generally expect there
> to be such a form that
> people may download, fill and submit without public acknowledgem
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