gcc-4.8-20121118 is now available

2012-11-18 Thread gccadmin
Snapshot gcc-4.8-20121118 is now available on ftp://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/snapshots/4.8-20121118/ and on various mirrors, see http://gcc.gnu.org/mirrors.html for details. This snapshot has been generated from the GCC 4.8 SVN branch with the following options: svn://gcc.gnu.org/svn/gcc/trunk

Re: RFC - Alternatives to gengtype

2012-11-18 Thread Jonathan Wakely
On 18 November 2012 18:25, Basile Starynkevitch wrote: > On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 08:06:08AM -1000, NightStrike wrote: >> On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Basile Starynkevitch >> wrote: >> > I really think that GCC need some form of garbage collector. > [...] >> >> What's wrong with std::shared_ptr

Re: RFC - Alternatives to gengtype

2012-11-18 Thread Jonathan Wakely
On 18 November 2012 18:03, Basile Starynkevitch wrote: > Regarding PCH [pre-compiled header], I think that it is related to PPH > [pre-processed headers] > > I don't understand yet if PPH is abandoned, or just post-poned. I was > believing it was a very mature experimental branch. See http://gcc.g

Re: RFC - Alternatives to gengtype

2012-11-18 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 08:06:08AM -1000, NightStrike wrote: > On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Basile Starynkevitch > wrote: > > I really think that GCC need some form of garbage collector. [...] > > What's wrong with std::shared_ptr? How does it deal with complex circular references that every

Re: RFC - Alternatives to gengtype

2012-11-18 Thread NightStrike
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Basile Starynkevitch wrote: > I really think that GCC need some form of garbage collector. > If it is Ggc+gengtype (to be improved), or Boehm GC, or even > some other GC (for instance both > http://starynkevitch.net/Basile/qishintro.html and > http://gcc.gnu.org/vi

Re: RFC - Alternatives to gengtype

2012-11-18 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 11:25:55AM -0500, Diego Novillo wrote: > I agree with the analysis of Uday and Basile. [...] > > However, let's discuss this topic in some other thread, please. I'd > like to take this thread back to the original topic: what do we do > with GC and PCH? I really think tha

Re: RFC - Alternatives to gengtype

2012-11-18 Thread Diego Novillo
I agree with the analysis of Uday and Basile. In my view, competition from Clang and LLVM is probably the best thing that could've happened to a compiler that was in danger of becoming fat, lazy and complacent. Simplifying the code base for new contributors and increased maintainability are the ma

Re: [Android] -fpic default option

2012-11-18 Thread Maxim Kuvyrkov
On 18/11/2012, at 7:50 AM, Alexander Ivchenko wrote: > You are right, we are talking about the same things. The only open > question I see is regarding: > > In other cases we can safely assume > that the executable will be created and > in such case it would be a good idea to use -fPI