Hi all,
I am working on a new revision of BGT, and am planning the new set of features
that I would like to include in this release. I want to get a general idea of
what features the users want the most, and so I'm sending out an email to ask
for your ideas. A few things that I have planned are
Anyone know what the cost of the game Shades of Doom is?
Thanks
Keith
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Well, I can agree with that. I can at least highly respect Apple for
taking the extra step and building accessibility into their devices.
That said, I too am someone who struggles with spacial awareness. I
think what it all comes down to is being able to accept that everyone
is different, and not e
Apple rocks. Sorry but they do. What other manufacturer purposefully puts in
accessibility from the ground up in their operating systems? Android hasn't,
bb hasn't, nokia hasn't, yes nokia has a screen reader but it's not built
into the phone. Nore has Microsoft.
Touch screens are a weird concept
er players? In the text
mode, I didn't find out how to do that.
Thanks to all in advance, and best regards!
Milos Przic
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win8 compatible at some point and will bypass the metro system fully probably.
At 05:39 p.m. 22/04/2012 +0100, you wrote:
Hi Tom.
as I have said before, I could probably learn to live with the
search box, but I just like the ple
not to mention the cheapness of the games.
At 11:39 a.m. 22/04/2012 -0400, you wrote:
Hi Damien,
Hmmm...I'm not sure what I can say in your case. It just seems to me
that we as blind users have little choice in the matter. A lot of
the smart phones my wife and I have looked at are all touchsc
My friend has one of those touch security systems.
I think for use the finger scanner or voice print unit or some sort
of dna scanning would rock.
At 04:20 p.m. 22/04/2012 +0100, you wrote:
Hi Tom.
This was as I thought.
interestingly enough, the school where my summer music school takes
p
well it took my dad a year to get used to his device.
My mum got hears in december and is only just getting used to it now.
My brother got his 2 months ago but since he uses it extensively for
work his learning rate does improve quite fast though it took a month.
My friend has handled touch scree
Ofcause apple and android is good but I must say I don't hold much in
ms access after what they did to narator.
Sure we have some access but its only in later years when they really tried.
So we may have to have our own comercial access again.
At 09:54 a.m. 22/04/2012 -0400, you wrote:
Hi Dark
I think it would be good if touchscreen devices or actual screens had
sides, a top and bottom or at least markers for edges etc on a physical note.
though iphones do that not sure about droids.
At 02:34 p.m. 22/04/2012 +0100, you wrote:
Hi Tom.
Well as I've said, my own mental mapping and spaci
Well the columns are not to bad neither are the ribbons though I am
an old dos hacker that likes to fly by the seat of my pants.
If you never had to gut your config.sys to fix a problem or hack
something on your box to optimise it knowing that at any second it
could just go nuts and you'd have t
hello to the developers of topspeed3. This is joseph weakland. I am an avid
player and I have a suggestion. It would be cool if in multiplayer mode it
would tell you which player finished the race first but it don't do that. can
that be inplemented?
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well I think with my usb port I could do it would be a bit of a pain
though but still.
At 07:43 a.m. 22/04/2012 -0500, you wrote:
I can't imagine laptops going to touch screens, as this would just
about kill the touch typing method for blind people. I would
certainly hope that there would be a
I aggree with you in part, but not fully.
Does anyknow or has anyone researched how long it takes us to catch up period?
True ms is giving people a fair go, nvda is already going to the
metro system I see it on the list, however, to be honest, for what we
pay or are forced to pay for the comerci
Well I aggree with you in part damon.
touch will be eventually the way.
but my mum has an android and has trouble herself with the touch
screen while my brother, dad and a friend with iphones, androids etc
actually can out pase my typing speed.
my friend is the fastest.
At 12:26 p.m. 22/04/2012
well, I truely think the keyboard will still exist we will have to add it in.
Voice recognition will improve as well as touch.
And it will be good and fast if I ever set that up.
in fact when I get my own 7 unit I may see how far that goes.
I don't care for 8 interface but if the recognition is go
i tend to always go in the ki mark via the back door as it is quite
easy to find and scope out any zombies there and kill them even more.
also the bridge is a good place to pick off them too. i do wish that
you could kill that annoying guard, don't know where he got that brit
accent, its dreadful l
I understand that. I hope I can bring them either to a good stopping
point or to a horrifying cliffhanger. I have to do schoolwork, write,
and monitor kids, so I'm kind of spazzing. It's good to know that
there's still hope, at least.
Signed:
Dakotah RIckard
On 4/22/12, Jeremy Kaldobsky wrote:
>
Dakotah I've actually been getting requests for extensions and sadly I've had
to turn them down. Just as finished reading an email from Omar I saw yours pop
up. I guess people are all starting to panic about time running out, hehe.
Anyway I wanted to, in return, beg you not to abandon your 37
Is there any way to beg, borrow, steal, or plead for an extension? I'm
not done yet, and it would suck for these thirty-seven chapters to be
written in vain.
My wife is also writing, and she's not done yet either.
If no extension is available, I guess we will either make it or not.
Signed:
Dakot
Except that they look like people, but they're rotten. They want to
eat you, but maybe they're wearing a suit and tie. I hope I finish my
Swamp story, because it's enormous and it deals with the scary bits.
If I don't I'll still probably put it up somewhere, just so you guys
can read it. I'm on Cha
BFN? I don't know that one. Jim, you certainly have a lot of games. I will
check them out. Do you think that you will ever put any of them on the
iPhone? Also, do you know where I can play the Colossal Cave online?
Paulette
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I don't think he was actually talking to you. He may have just just replied
to the wrong message.
Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca!
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Another excellent place is the BGT General forum on blastbay.com itself.
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Hi Paulette,
If you might be looking for some free computer games to play, all of my windows
text to speech and other computer games are totally free, and they include
Awesome Homer, Baseball, BattleShip, Black Jack, Bop It, Concentration,
coupling, Craps, Draw Poker, Football, Golf, Hangman,
Thanks Phil. I will wait a while to get it, so you can put in the update.
Paulette
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Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 3:21 PM
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Subject: [Audyssey] Sarah
Thanks, Fred. I am already a member. I am still learning my way around the
site.
Paulette
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Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 3:01 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyss
Hi Paulette,
I released the Sarah game at the end of 2005, seven years ago.
Since then the rest of the Harry Potter movies and books have been released.
It is based on a time right after Order of the Phoenix.
I am working on an update the corrects some of the missing information that
were not in t
Paulette, if you are serious about games for the iphone, go to
http://www.applevis.com lots of stuff there, not just games.
Fred Olver
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Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks
>
Hi Phil,
So you are the one who wrote the Sarah game. I have heard a few snips of the
game and it sounds intriguing! How can I get it?
Paulette
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Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012
Hi Dark,
I think that I do my visualizing sort of like you. I never was good with
maps. I associate things with other things. For instance, I know that I go
north to get out of the building in the Colossal Cave adventure game and
that I need to go west to get into the cave once I get into the firs
Milosh-hs
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Thanks. I will do that.
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Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 11:51 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks
Using iTunes, do a search for
de steno
It's more a bug that the ammo doesn't show up right away. Switch
out of the gun you unloaded and back in and you'll be set.
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pistol,
and you unload it it dissapears.
if you then get an
Hi Phil,
Yes, but again, you have to remember where you are going half the time,
which is hard when you've got other things to think about. I can remember
phone numbers, but not locations. I've lived in my apartment now for four
years now and I still get confused between the location of the fri
Hi Michael,
Well lucky you. Just because you can doesn't mean anybody should expect
everyone else to. Just because you seem to have a supercomputer for a brain
and a nack for learning things and having the patience to fight what seems
to others a losing battle, well all I can do is say well don
Hi Phil.
That's one of the things I most like in the gma engine, there are a hole
range of distance and informational commands, and each person can decide
which ones they prefer.
As I said, I myself use audio landmarks and directions, so would use the
directional cumpas with a bit of help fr
Hi Dark,
There are many ways to go to a location in a game, such as in my Sarah game.
Coordinate method:
From 11, 2,go to 11, 3.
From 11, 3 go to 3, 3
from 3,3 go to 3,16
from 3, 16 go to 1, 16
to reach the caretaker's office.
Compass method:
Go north until you stop, turn west.
Go west until you
Hi Damien.
it's not association, it's just memory. I don't remember say for instance gr
first letters of grass so I go right, I just remember that on that
particular route grass is where I turn right, that is it.
Some landmarks I use are visual, like the low white wall, some are tactile
like
They don't like those who need every aspect of their life done for them
Also the poor blind person is old and boring
I work and have moved through the ranks through hard work and never believing
that I can't do something
Stereotypes are so hard to break
For 100 who break that mold it takes one
Hi Dark,
You sound a bit like me, though even that long list of directions to your
school you posted I wouldn't be able to remember all that in a matter of
months. It was a similarly short route if not shorter to the bus stop and I
couldn't remember that for the life of me. It doesn't help that
Hi Tom.
as I have said before, I could probably learn to live with the search box,
but I just like the pleasure and convenience of organizing stuff myself,
just as I might books or dvds on a shelf, which is why I think for me the
columnbs with a touch screen would actually be preferable to usi
Hi Mike,
Yeah? Well if that's the case then that's where the discrimination comes in.
They don't like us because we don't act sighted? We don't pretend to have
something they have so they see us as abnormal circus clowns or something?
Well then that's even all the more reason to complain.
The m
Hi Tom.
I disagree on visualization or spacial awareness, since that is a skill i
just do not have. This is why I find a game like battleships,
patience/solitare, mine sweeper, chess, or even draughts/checkers nearly
impossible to play unless the board is in front of me in either a visual or
Hi Charles,
You must have a lot of patience and a lot of self confidence. I, I'm sorry
to say, don't tend to have much of either. Again, it all comes down to
people having such high expectations of me previously and with me getting so
many things wrong that most other people can get right, whet
Several years ago, I asked a Freedom Scientific tech about getting the JAWS
or PC cursor to follow a mouse pointer and was told that because there are
so many different shapes, colors, and sizes of mouse pointers, it would cost
half a million dollars to implement the feature into the screen read
Don't agree
This is why the sighted community thinks what they do of us
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On Apr 22, 2012, at 9:47 AM, "Damien Pendleton"
wrote:
> Hi Mike,
> There are some things we need to complain about. I'm the sort of person who
> won't take things lying down. If I'm not happy with
You did the right thing
You gave up
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On Apr 22, 2012, at 9:25 AM, "Damien Pendleton"
wrote:
> Hi Charles,
> My speed didn't change in two weeks of constantly trying to use it. That's
> the only phone I had during that period, and I tend to make a lot of calls,
> send a lo
Hi Charles,
I hope so. Although, at the moment none of the Windows screen readers
seem to follow the user input from the touchscreen. Hopefully future
updates will allow screen readers to track touchscreen input and will
speak the contents of the screen like VoiceOver and then we would have
As a reminder to all, today is the last day of the Swamp fan fiction
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Submissions can either be emailed to me or they can be posted in the Swamp fan
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Hi Dark,
Lol! I like the name "columns of doom." Although, I wouldn't go quite
that far. The new Windows 8 start screen is a pain to be sure, but it is
usable. If I hunt around using NVDA I can usually find the icon I want
once I remember where it is on the screen. Plus rather than manually
Hi Damien,
Well, I do see how that can and is a problem for you. In a game such as
Tank Commander you can't just remember directions. You have to improvise
as the tactical situation changes. Knowing where everything is in
relation to you will help in making choices how to avoid an attack or
Hi Ryan. In answer to your questions:
1. I am trying to create a simple menu with start game, test speakers,
and quit. As a result sapi text to speech is enabled, and reads what I
am meaning to put on the screen.
2. about creating a script with multiple commands, sometimes the error
varies with my
Using iTunes, do a search for
de steno games
HTH
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Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 7:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks
I would like to play t
If your main concern is doing it fast rather than doing it right, you won't
get anywhere. I wish corporations and big business would also learn that.
First, let's get it right. We'll worry about getting it fast once we've
gotten it right on a regular basis. With the iPhone, I don't care if it
Hi Damien,
Hmmm...I'm not sure what I can say in your case. It just seems to me
that we as blind users have little choice in the matter. A lot of the
smart phones my wife and I have looked at are all touchscreen, and those
that have keypads aren't much easier to use because the buttons are wa
I agree charles, then access would be more equal, and maybe even windows 8
with it's columns of doom wouldn't be so bad.
Beware the Grue!
Dark.
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Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWork
Hi Tom.
This was as I thought.
interestingly enough, the school where my summer music school takes place
have completely flat touchpads on the security locks of the doors. They just
require a four digit number to get in, but annoyingly the numbers have no
indication at all, however we found t
Hey Brandon,
When working with code and the errors it can generate, specificity is king.
You have to let people know what doesn't work in pretty thorough detail in
order for them to be able to help you. Whereas doctors and mechanics can
take a look at the body of work and see what the problem is, w
Hi Mike,
There are some things we need to complain about. I'm the sort of person who
won't take things lying down. If I'm not happy with something then I will
say it. A lot of people can just grin and bear it, but to me it's that sort
of attitude that continues to prove to big arrogant snobbish
Give it time on those touch screens. Those fat companies are not yet
squeezing us for are money yet. Now when they release win8 watch them
all come out of there shells with all kinds of touch devices.
At 07:27 AM 4/22/2012, you wrote:
I'm not sure if it's been mentioned, but there is a cost sa
Michael: Your reply shows me that you're not reading what's being said, or
you replied to the wrong post.
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Hi Charles,
My speed didn't change in two weeks of constantly trying to use it. That's
the only phone I had during that period, and I tend to make a lot of calls,
send a lot of text, and that's not including trying to find all the cool
games that are out there for it. So you could probably say
Now, if the touch screen, as a mouse replacement, operates like an iPhone in
that touching highlights, dragging can be done with fingers, and a gesture
of some kind activates the highlighted icon, wouldn't we have the best of
both worlds, as long as icons can verbally be identified!
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Hi Trouble,
I've got an open mind for a lot of things. I just get sick and tired of
feeling so small every time I don't know how to do something, or know how to
do it but can't quite do it well enough for it to work. And if everybody
else can do it, then that really shows me where I stand in th
Hi Dark,
Well, that is where VoiceOver comes in handy. As Charles said if you
just touch an area of the screen VoiceOver will speak what you are
pointing at and iOS won't activate the item unless you double tap or
triple tap the item in question. This allows us to explore the
touchscreen wit
Michael, i very much resent that statement that my post was "feeling sorry"
for anyone.
I was actually attempting to highlight exactly what you just said, blindness
is a disability, and as such has inherent problems with access especially
when considdering corporate motivation. This is however
Hi Dark,
sure. As I just said to Charles a second ago I think we'll see a
coexistence between keyboards and touchscreens as a touchscreen can't do
everything and a keyboard can't do everything either. So we will see a
mixture of the two on future devices.
On 4/22/2012 8:43 AM, dark wrote:
Hi Charles,
Well, what I envision is that the new Windows 8 laptops I've been
hearing about will have both a touchscreen and keyboard. The touchscreen
will in effect act like a mouse allowing the user to point to and tap on
icons, buttons, and other controls instead of pointing and clicking w
Hi Tom.
Well as I've said, my own mental mapping and spacial location skills are not
really up to much, so I'm not sure how a touch screen will work for me.
That being said, I probably would be fine if there is some sort of auditory
marker, since then, instead of attempting a complete mental
I have never been around so much negativity
Don't appreciate what one has
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On Apr 22, 2012, at 7:32 AM, Trouble wrote:
> Give it time on those touch screens. Those fat companies are not yet
> squeezing us for are money yet. Now when they release win8 watch them all
> come
I am so amazed when I read posts like this
We are blind and without us getting our sight back we will never be as or on
the same level
However feeling sorry for yourself or complaining helps how
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 22, 2012, at 7:54 AM, "dark" wrote:
> I will agree with damien's poi
My brother uses an Ipad a great deal, but for any extensive typing makes use
of a fold out keyboard which he also carries, which seems the sensible thing
to do to me, afterall while there are advantages to using a touch screen,
there's no point using it for everything! just because it's there.
Wow, that would be really handy in the Us where all the silly money is the
same shape, colour and size and it's only the numbers that are different.
I can tell money here in the Uk by colour or size, but when I visited
America I was amazed at just how inaccessible the money was, and how I
need
I also have an iPhone 4 S. I really love it, but I do have problems with
Seri responding. Do you have any suggestions?
Paulette
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Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 4:18 AM
To: 'Ga
I finally cheated and found a walk through. Now I want to play the game and
really win this time. I never would have guessed that the other person was
as simple as a mirror! I thought it was something magical or secret. I just
wish that I could get the program to do what I say the first time. Some
I think keyboards will always be around for typing and word processing,
which is a major part of business, since it's very difficult to imagine say
stenography or other forms of dictation being done on a touch screen device.
that being said, i have noticed a general trend in all sorts of media
You can also use dictation.
Paulette
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Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 8:47 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks
You're missing one of the points, tho
I will agree with damien's point about access.
it is true that even a pc with the best screen reader is not of the same
level of access, ie, effortlessness as a sighted user would experience.
for example, I am right now checking my mails. I have to look at (ie listen
to supernova tell me), th
I don't know if this would help, but this is how I became familiar with the
iPhone screen. I am totally blind and have never seen, so the first few
times I used the iPhone, I asked my husband to help me. I had no idea what a
screen lay out looked from a sighted person's perspective. He told me in
d
You're missing one of the points, though. You say that you shouldn't have
to spend 5 minutes doing what should take seconds, but, what you're not
realizing is that, with practice and familiarity with the device, your speed
and accuracy increases, cutting down the time. Although you may not be
You better hang on to that phone as long as you can, because even
support for the new nokias are going. Even the new nokia is moving to
touch. Everyone can learn new things in time, but it takes a open
mind to want to learn it.
At 05:06 PM 4/21/2012, you wrote:
Hi Brian,
What I'm trying to sa
I can't imagine laptops going to touch screens, as this would just about
kill the touch typing method for blind people. I would certainly hope that
there would be a way to connect an external keyboard? A touch screen
laptop, unless it works as the iPhone does, would be extremely difficult for
they even have a keyboard that you can dock to the iPad if not
wanting to do touch.
At 08:55 PM 4/21/2012, you wrote:
For Damien: If he really wants to have a keyboard for an iPad,
there are wireless keyboards available that can be used to type in
items like search fields, addresses and the l
Hi Damien,
I think the answer is simply that a touchscreen is generally easier for
a sighted user. You know as I do that the mainstream sighted market is
99% of a companies business and nobody including Apple are going to
market a special iPhone for the remaining 1% of the population without
Never thought of it that way. That's a good analogy.
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks
Hi Dark,
Yeah, touchscre
I would like to play that pack of old games. Could you please give me the
information for downloading the pack? Thanks.
Paulette
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Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 8:55 PM
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Hi Bryan,
Well, I'm sure there will still be keyboards around. After all even
though Windows 8 is designed for touchscreen input people who have to
type reports, fill in spreadsheets, etc can do that much faster than
with a touchscreen. What I think we'll see is a combo of touchscreen and
ke
Hi Damien,
Its pretty safe to say that no one goes it alone. Most people including
myself learned to use their iPhone or a different operating system like
Linux by asking around to various blind groups who use the technology,
ask for a blind user nearby for some hands on training, or read any
Hi Fred,
This is true, but keyboards have been a traditional part of computers since
I don't know when. When you're brought up with one method, spend 17 years on
it, get so used to it that you are accessing information at speeds you would
have never thought possible, and they make computers fas
Hi Thomas,
One blind guy did attempt to show me. In fact, if it hadn't been for him, I
wouldn't have got my IPhone set up at all. But he had to spend over two
hours on the phone setting the stupid thing up. Then when it was set up he
tried to tell me what to do with it, and I was constantly get
Thanks, Fred. I will give them a try.
Paulette
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Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 5:52 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New member triple game trouble
Hi Pa
Hi Bryan,
Not only that, but I don't think we have much of a choice. I've seen the
way Windows 8, Ubuntu Linux 12.04, etc are going and most of the
software developers are moving to a touchscreen type user interface.
Everyone and their uncle is copying Apple's iOS design and that can only
me
Well here are a few things. First, I am not understanding how to
create a menu and have sapi read it out to me. Second, I'm trying to
make a script or comment with multiple commands but I always get a
compelation error. I hope that helps.
On 4/22/12, Thomas Ward wrote:
>
> Hi Brandon,
>
> Sure. W
Hi Damien,
I understand the fact you don't like touchscreens very much, say you
hate them, but I'd like to know why you think Apple is conning the law.
Aside from yourself many blind users own and use iPhones with no
problems at all and as Cara pointed out on the list a few days ago there
is
I'm not sure if it's been mentioned, but there is a cost saving in not
having to build a keyboard for a computer. In fact, I'm not surprised we're
not seeing more monitors with the ability to handle touch-screen commands.
Fred Olver
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From: "Damien Pendleton"
To: "G
Hi Thomas,
I think you've hit the nail on the head with me. I've never been sighted and
therefore never been able to really visualise things. It's like even in the
real world, I constantly find myself wondering why cars and pedestrians
don't bother going straight forwards rather than sideways,
Hi Thomas,
Yeah, maybe I did give up. But like I said. That's because I don't believe
it is practical to have to sit with a phone spending five minutes trying to
access something when you could access the same thing on, say Simbian or XP
in a matter of seconds. And if touch screen is the way fo
Hi Dark,
Yeah, touchscreens can be nice once you get use to them. I didn't find
them as difficult as I thought they'd be, but there apparently not for
everybody. Like everything else in life it all depends on how much
effort, time, and energy you are willing to commit to learning the new
int
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