Re: [FRIAM] the racist woo peddler

From David Abram's book "Spell of the Sensous": /It is not by sending his awareness out beyond the natural world that the shaman makes contact with the purveyors of life and health, nor by journeying into his personal psyche; rather, it is by propelling his awareness laterally outw

Re: [FRIAM] Curmudgeons Unite!

Jon- I would find it fascinating (if possibly/assuredly misleading) for someone well-schooled in Go Strategy/Tactics and history to establish a running commentary on the specific moves afoot in our (national/global) political (socioeconomic) go-board.   My last foray into Go beyond trying to lear

Re: [FRIAM] Curmudgeons Unite!

Well stated Jon, Well pivoted Glen...  I'd challenge us to go further and reconsider/rethink how "Democracy" in all it's recognizable forms is only a weak attempt at achieving more fundamental goals/constraints of ??? (fairness, egalatarianism, inclusiveness, diversity, liberty, ???).    We, of c

Re: [FRIAM] the racist woo peddler

On 8/20/20 3:56 AM, uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ wrote: > The flowery sentiments expressed in that review miss something ... I was pointing at the specifics of Abram's language/conception of "the Shaman", merely using this review to provide a little context for his quote, thereby avoiding my own rabbit-hole style a

Re: [FRIAM] Curmudgeons Unite!

Jon - Well said.  I often look at our collective (in different chunkings) in terms of opportunities lost.   Evolution is intrinsically wasteful by some measure, so it does not surprise me that from a judgemental/discriminating/big-picture/hindsight perspective *virtually everything that happens in

[FRIAM] Splatter was: the racist woo peddler

 Dave : > Very cool questions. > > One of my best friends teaches Theology at the University of St. Thomas, a > solidly Catholic institution where I also taught. He is a overt atheist — > except in the classroom — and I once asked him if his atheism came naturally > or was developed. His reply,

Re: [FRIAM] Splatter was: the racist woo peddler

Dave - > Trump has problems with Mormons in general. And they with him?  Best I can tell he has problems with everybody but himself and maybe Ivanka. > Romney's antipathy to trump epitomizes the "Mormon on the street." I find Romney hard to identify as a "man on the street" (or more to the point "b

Re: [FRIAM] Curmudgeons Unite!

EricS - > So it’s not for the US today, but the thing that put Scott Boorman on > the map (and fairly quickly got him installed in Yale), was an attempt > to be a bit systematic and disciplined, and commit to some specific > interpretations, for Mao and the infludnence of Go on military > strategy

Re: [FRIAM] Myth of the Given

Jon - I definitely appreciated the balance of the lecturer's animated style and a seemingly accurate/complete description. I have a hard time dismissing more than the Snarky part of PoMo theory/culture, even though I'm not an adherent in any obvous way.    I appreciate your observations here:  I

[FRIAM] Bibliophiliacs (was:Curmudgeons) Unite!

Jon - What a familiar story when dealing with nearly decomposeable bureaucratic hierarchies (left/right hand mutual ignorance)!   When I came to LANL, the library allowed books (after a short period of limited circulation upon acquisition) to be shelved as long as you wanted in your own office boo

Re: [FRIAM] Curmudgeons Unite!

> Steve - > > Are you saying that DT tenukis every move? It appears to me that the Dems > follow him around the board. While the latter is most certainly a beginner > mistake, the former (if memory serves) was the sound advice given to a young > Janice Kim from her father. idk, I will ask her next

Re: [FRIAM] Curmudgeons Unite!

Glen - I know you tried to be explicit about what the core problems are, and I am aligned with what you have gestured at and I don't expect you to have been complete or detailed in this type of forum on such a huge subject.  Huge in depth, breadth, and perhaps more critical, import.  I am glad you

Re: [FRIAM] Curmudgeons Unite!

On 8/21/20 9:58 AM, glen∉ℂ wrote: > Hm. I want to confirm that this post is commentary and you're not > expecting a response. I'm always *hoping for* responses, but don't usually expect that my style or even content is something others care to or feel able to respond to.   > But maybe it's push-b

Re: [FRIAM] Curmudgeons Unite!

Glen - > Re mismatched expectations with voting and representation versus > liberal use of metaphor: yes, they are strongly related. My impulse is > to object slightly and say that I'm a big fan of metaphor. But I'm not > a big fan of constant reflection on our (ubiquitous) metaphors. It's > analy

Re: [FRIAM] words for Nick (political-words focused)

Sushi lovers - I've never been able to develop (nor really understand) the eating of fish/seafood. I grew up completely landlocked in the Rocky Mountains where it was at the very least a significant excursion to get to a *small* lake where there *might be* a few trout stocked.  The process of rem

Re: [FRIAM] words for Nick (political-words focused)

Jon - Thanks for the antidotal anecdote to my own anecdote.   Mary is a more strict vegetarian than I, up to fish...  she eats fish but does not expect me to procure or prepare them for her.   I have seen crayfish in the ponding areas on the Rio Grande near my home...   I sometimes consider captu

Re: [FRIAM] Rio En Medio & Caja del Rio Fires

I don't know much myself..   there is a local (pilot?) who is tracking things (on the new Caja fire) closely (because the fire is close to the airport?) and is apparently flying over right now: https://twitter.com/Bewickwren/status/1297981293624463360 Stephen has a "crew" of students photogra

Re: [FRIAM] IS: Disgusting Fish Conversation WAS: words for Nick (political-words focused)

Damn!  You NAILED IT Cody... I think we need to build a fault-tree of this to explicate it and then begin to elaborate it and analyze the myriad loops (representing contradictions or mere iterations?)... Your perspective is VERY progressive in the most conservative way! On 8/25/20 11:00 AM, cod

Re: [FRIAM] IS: Disgusting Fish Conversation WAS: words for Nick (political-words focused)

I always wondered what Cody would look like in Dreds... but the Dooderson Warrior image feels more apt to this awesome riff!

[FRIAM] Causation, Prediction, Search on Academia

Frank - > https://www.academia.edu/keypass/cHFjczFFMmZHUDF4em04U0hXMkdDL1IyRmRKRmI4c3VYbWFHY2crL1NxOD0tLW1jS1RtUi9EU0oySmtEck9FeEJCWnc9PQ==--9fbb49188f8eb90cc24a1781a1c49671222e77dd/t/ewjc6-N3UnAUt-baBacR/resource/work/3135365/Automated_search_for_causal_relations_Theory_and_practice?email_work_car

Re: [FRIAM] IS: Disgusting Fish Conversation WAS: words for Nick (political-words focused)

Merle - > Like Aaron Burr who sings "...and I'm the guy who shot him!",  I'm the > guy who introduced JP (my neighbor) to CAS when he was but a mere > lad.  I obviously didn't give him enough warning.  > > Crawfish are a Southern dish, so those who devour are surely > conservative.  Actually, the a

Re: [FRIAM] Causation, Prediction, Search on Academia

Frank - > Madelyn is Clark's daughter and was a little girl when I knew her.  > The CMU people and the UCLA people (Pearl et al.  He Is the father of  > Daniel Pearl) have long cooperated. I vaguely knew of the Daniel Pearl connection which was triggered by Madelyn's name showing up... the various

Re: [FRIAM] what is Gertrude thinking?

Marcus/Jon/MotherChurchers - > Do you believe him? I believe that what he is demonstrating is a roughly accurate  presentation of what NL has achieved to date. Am I astounded by: 1. How much progress has been made in the field in my life 2. How casual Musk and his fanbois/goils are about this

Re: [FRIAM] what is Gertrude thinking?

S> circa 1988?), more likely whatever Haskell systems developers use for serialization?   Has anyone developed an "ethics filter or lens" for Haskell - Streams? On 8/29/20 6:22 PM, Steve Smith wrote: > Marcus/Jon/MotherChurchers - >> Do you believe him? > > I believe t

Re: [FRIAM] what is Gertrude thinking?

On 8/30/20 6:55 AM, Roger Critchlow wrote: > What I want to know is where are the Elon Musk copycats hiding?  I > can't walk down the street without bumping into at least one idiot who > wants to be the next Donald Trump.  Shoot an african american, abuse > an immigrant, or beat a woman to death,

Re: [FRIAM] The last bookstore

Jochen - Independent and Used bookstores definitely took a hit, first from the Big Boxes like Hastings and Barnes and Noble and then a double-whammy from Amazon.   I don't know how many more went down because of COVID...   We have a very serious local collection of used/independent stores whose fl

Re: [FRIAM] The last bookstore

On 9/5/20 8:36 AM, Prof David West wrote: > the block is just the main store - the computer/science/tech is in another > building across the street. > > lots of small local bookstores. LA harder to find, but San Francisco > plentiful. > > They will still be there in 2025 when you feel safe to vi

Re: [FRIAM] The last bookstore

That is a cool anecdote Roger...  and I thank you for your own moving-book-sale when you left Santa Fe (10 years ago now???) and I picked up a boxfull of books I didn't need (but really appreciated anyway). Did anyone (else) visit McMurtry's "bookstore town" in Archer City TX?    I've been there s

Re: [FRIAM] Today's Sermon:: a minor awokening

Nick - I think I may well know the man of whom you speak... he is in my "second order circle" so I only see him while visiting certain friends or at events we all share or the occasional criss-cross in a public venue.   I will try to remember to ask him if he remembers YOU...   question is which s

Re: [FRIAM] OFFLINE:Today's Sermon:: a minor awokening

IAM post which I will make in a moment.    > >   > > Thanks, Steve, > >   > > Nick > > Nicholas Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology > > Clark University > > thompnicks...@gmail.com <mailto:thompnicks...@gmail.com> > > https://wor

Re: [FRIAM] Today's Sermon:: a minor awokening

or of Ethology and Psychology > > Clark University > > thompnicks...@gmail.com <mailto:thompnicks...@gmail.com> > > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > >   > >   > > *From:* Friam *On Behalf Of *Steve Smith > *Sent:* Saturday, September 5, 2020 1:27 P

Re: [FRIAM] OFFLINE:Today's Sermon:: a minor awokening

Frank - >   And that trait ingratiates with those amongst us who have base > impulses for which we fear we might be shamed. > > And that includes everyone.  But then most of us have superegos that > constrain us.  Trump less so. Ah, but HIS is a SuperDuperEgo... just ask him, he'll tell ya! I don

Re: [FRIAM] OFFLINE:Today's Sermon:: a minor awokening

  > > Speaking of shame!  Whew! > >   > > Nick > >   > > Nicholas Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology > > Clark University > > thompnicks...@gmail.com <mailto:thompnicks...@gmail.com> >

Re: [FRIAM] Today's Sermon:: a minor awokening

.com <mailto:thompnicks...@gmail.com> > > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > >   > >   > > *From:* Friam *On Behalf Of *Steve Smith > *Sent:* Saturday, September 5, 2020 6:07 PM > *To:* friam@redfish.com > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Today's Sermon:: a minor

Re: [FRIAM] OFFLINE:Today's Sermon:: a minor awokening

hat Trump resents the ways in which it > constrains him.  He tries to get around it with surprising success > thanks to sycophants like Barr et al. > > --- > Frank C. Wimberly > 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, > Santa Fe, NM 87505 > > 505 670-9918 > S

Re: [FRIAM] OFFLINE:Today's Sermon:: a minor awokening

> Yes, you could say that government in general and especially lawmakers > are our superego.  The best common word synonym for superego is > conscience.  Since a lot of people have lacunae of their own superego > we need laws and law enforcers. So right now we are in the midst of a collective id/

Re: [FRIAM] OFFLINE:Today's Sermon:: a minor awokening

start. > > --- > Frank C. Wimberly > 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, > Santa Fe, NM 87505 > > 505 670-9918 > Santa Fe, NM > > On Sat, Sep 5, 2020, 8:15 PM Steve Smith <mailto:sasm...@swcp.com>> wrote: > > > > Yes, you could say that government in general a

Re: [FRIAM] The Strange Numbers That Birthed Modern Algebra

Tom - Great find!   I'd never seen the "belt trick" animated like this... SimTable's progress finally has demanded widespread adoption of quaternions for the "traditional" reason of gimbal lock but with other side-benefits here and there.    This has lead to a strong spate of most of the team try

Re: [FRIAM] Today's Sermon:: a minor awokening

I'll see your PBR and raise you a Little Brown Jug. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07T7rREzYMc My parents who were (near) teatotallers for most of their lives would get Rocky Mountain High (just woodsmoke and cold mountain air, none of John Denver's roll yer own version) and sing this and ot

Re: [FRIAM] Help for Merle Lefkoff

> Part-time for three months @ $300/month ($20/hr.).  Would like to > start 9/15.  web-site:  emergentdiplomacy.org > .  Thanks, Jon. I think Merle means $300/week => 15hrs/week $20...   a good gig for someone at loose ends or between semesters, etc.  It would be goo

Re: [FRIAM] Help for Merle Lefkoff

S wrong?🤔  How easy it was to do that! > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 3:20 PM Steve Smith <mailto:sasm...@swcp.com>> wrote: > > >> Part-time for three months @ $300/month ($20/hr.).  Would like to >> start 9/15.  web-site:  emergentdiplomacy.org >> &

Re: [FRIAM] flu versus COVID

Without picking directly on Dave, or using him as a proxy for or maybe just a whipping boy for the folks who continue to imagine that having Donald Trump and his gang of openly sycophantic and corrupt supporters in his cabinet and in Congress is actually a *healthy* thing for this country, I think

[FRIAM] SavantX in SFe

Marcus - You seem like the most likely one (active) on list to know the background on these folks: https://nmpartnership.com/quantum-computing-leader-moving-research-headquarters-to-santa-fe/ I haven't dug very deep, but true to form, their website is written in brochure speak which doesn't real

Re: [FRIAM] SavantX in SFe

On 9/12/20 6:41 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote: > I saw a job listing from them which led me to a SF New Mexican > article.  The latter said they were seeking to hire over 100 > professionals at an average salary of $90K. > > I'm too old. And I am "unemployable"... on several dimensions. But I *am* int

Re: [FRIAM] SavantX in SFe

rdware company getting off the ground for less than $100M. > > -Original Message- > From: Friam On Behalf Of Steve Smith > Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2020 5:37 PM > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > Subject: [FRIAM] SavantX in SFe > >

Re: [FRIAM] SavantX in SFe

uot;⛧ glen" wrote: >> Thanks for the link to that book! >> >> I'm unable to pierce the wall of hype around savantx. Ostby's patents >> are about search and training sims. My guess is they're riding a string >> of SBIR type funding and have conv

Re: [FRIAM] SavantX in SFe

t are the words that make up the acronym?   > > --- > Frank C. Wimberly > 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, > Santa Fe, NM 87505 > > 505 670-9918 > Santa Fe, NM > > On Sun, Sep 13, 2020, 8:10 AM Steve Smith <mailto:sasm...@swcp.com>> wrote: > > Thinks for the e

Re: [FRIAM] SavantX in SFe

Their IP seems to be in full-text indexing/search/patterning along the lines of Abe Lederman's Deep Web https://www.deepwebtech.com/ On 9/13/20 8:44 AM, Steve Smith wrote: > > Frank - > > Sorry... in my attempt to become "more brief" in my rattling on here, > I

Re: [FRIAM] flu versus COVID

; > > If Trump wins: fight will become the majority response of the losing side. > Violence in the streets, mostly focused against police, but also against > anyone and anything deemed to be "pro Trump" in any vestige. All the pomp and > pageantry of a revolution, b

Re: [FRIAM] SavantX in SFe

stby's also presented on graph search: > http://nmbdas.com/speakers/ > > > On September 13, 2020 7:10:14 AM PDT, Steve Smith > wrote: >> Thinks for the extra references.   I can't penetrate the brochure-speak >> either... even HONE which sounds like yet another gussie

Re: [FRIAM] flu versus COVID

e (especially if it appeared they had a gun, which I suspect Kyle and maybe his family were fond of having "handy" in case someone busted down their doors). Maybe someone in that mix (Kyle, his friends and family, or the Chicago Police) went way out of their way to make sure that d

[FRIAM] Vote early, Vote often...

Dave - > Steve - the problem is unambiguously defining exactly which group of > people we are talking about. It is the same problem that constantly > arises in discussions about political bases and the constituents > thereof, versus the radical fringe elements. I agree... > > Your "Righty" friends

Re: [FRIAM] Getting You Libertarians' Goats

Glen - Thanks for the reminder to keep on supporting local/independent if you want them to be around later.  Or because they are your neighbors.  Or of course, if you just want to stick it to Bezos like the Lilliputians that we are! I didn't know about this resource.   I have degenerated to routi

Re: [FRIAM] Getting You Libertarians' Goats

On 9/14/20 9:51 AM, uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ wrote: > Well, the argument is not mainly that they're too big. It's that they use > offensive marketing tactics to *kill* smaller "competitors" ... e.g. > diapers.com. You know, good old fashioned capitalism. If they didn't engage > in that sort of thing, they woul

Re: [FRIAM] Getting You Libertarians' Goats

minutes the other way to Rockridge...  but I very rarely walked them... bah!    Mary and I are equally against bucket-lists, but on the list we don't have is trying a few short stints (3-12 months) living in a city as we get tired of tending chickens and gardens and trying to ignore the neigh

[FRIAM] Cell Press / Patterns

Is anyone else watching this open publication:  Cell Press/Patterns? https://www.cell.com/patterns/home I found the following paper on correlating firearm purchase/demand with mass shootings. https://www.cell.com/patterns/fulltext/S2666-3899(20)30110-0 Their two models seem to ignore/exclude *m

Re: [FRIAM] dead migratory birds

Thanks for the link...   I'm wondering if others are noticing similar in the SFe area?  Or elsewhere? Another "Silent Spring" in the making? We noticed a very large flux in "little yellow birds"  (maybe a lesser goldfinch?), possibly more than most years, and they have been showing up dead in une

Re: [FRIAM] dead migratory birds

On 9/15/20 8:07 AM, glen↙↙↙ wrote: > 'Hundreds of thousands, if not millions': New Mexico sees massive migratory > bird deaths > https://www.lcsun-news.com/story/news/2020/09/12/mass-deaths-migratory-birds-new-mexico-environment/5780282002/ https://www.inaturalist.org/projects/southwest-avian-mo

Re: [FRIAM] Cell Press / Patterns

... to just grasp the whole thing firmly so the slide can't operate.   I doubt I'll ever get to practice either of these, and if I did, I'd flub it badly and get drilled and powder-burned... at least it will likely be "through and through" and leave some heat/chemical cauteriz

[FRIAM] Don't take your guns (or ammo) to town...

a revolver apparently is to force > the web of your thumb-finger between the hammer and the shell-casing... > kindof an intentional version of your semi-auto ouch.   The semi-auto > interference of choice is a bit easier... to just grasp the whole thing > firmly so the slide c

Re: [FRIAM] Don't take your guns (or ammo) to town...

Frank - I think you just missed the Santa Fe City/County firearms "buyback" which has some charms (though I think they are constrained to always destroy the weapons, which may contradict some particular antique value of one or the other).   I DO think firearms of the type you likely inherited (pr

Re: [FRIAM] Getting You Libertarians' Goats

EricC - Thanks for your thought out, coherent summary/analysis.   I think you cover the issues (as I see them) well, conflating credentials with competence or capability (while there is a correlation, sometimes it is negative, and in fact it is just a tiny subdomain within a higher dimensional spa

Re: [FRIAM] Getting You Libertarians' Goats

EricS - I think this gives a good "hint" of part of what a fully Socialized or Communal system looks like to some (e.g. Libertarians), and why they resist what others of us might see as "reasonable attempts at leveling the playing field".   I'm definitely ambivalent in the sense of being of "two

Re: [FRIAM] NM Absentee Ballots

Gary - Thanks for sharing this.  One of the things I appreciate about this list is it's wide geographic (if not so much demographic) distribution.   Your experience as an Expat in a South American country has been very helpful to me for some parallax.  I heard from another member off-list that the

Re: [FRIAM] hot time in town tonight

Dave - I will take your claim that you do not enjoy this at face value, yet your voice is not dissimilar to the many who seem to be enjoying Schaden/Cassandra-Freude.   I take you to be a "fellow traveler" amongst travelers here, albeit along your own particular (perhaps peculiar to many) winding

Re: [FRIAM] hot time in town tonight

a > > “A cultural efflorescence or an apocalyptic collapse?” > > It is not clear to me these options need to be mutually exclusive. > > Marcus > I agree heartily...  there are many paths...  in the very weak ensemble study (10,000 scenarios) we did before Stockholm last year, using the World2 SD mo

Re: [FRIAM] hot time in town tonight

> It seems to me that both 'states' are delusional. Both do seem to be *projections* of *value* onto "is what is"...  > What if the distinction between apocalyptic state and an efflorescent state > is illusory and simply a function of one's perspective? I.e. every single > happy thing faces apo

Re: [FRIAM] The 2020 NM Primary

> https://healthyelections.org/state-updates/new-mexico > > I have no insight or investment. It's really just spam, I guess. I am registered "Declines To Report" so am not invited to vote in either primary and am unclear if I am part of the remaining 58% of "eligible voters" who did not vote in t

Re: [FRIAM] truths as model correspondences and ground truths

Jon - Good post/link! I'm about 1/3 of the way in, and besides trying to listen carefully to the German Accent and ignoring the well-groomed door-to-door missionary look of this pair, I was VERY impressed across the board.  I find the Computer/Information Science idiom to be a little "off" but pr

Re: [FRIAM] hot time in town tonight

For those here fascinated by the impending (or not) Apocalypto (Mel Gibson), Jackpot (William Gibson), Rapture (Evangelicals) or Redux Deseret (Dave West), I submit the following novel series by a very prolific Santa Fe Author, S.M. Stirling, called "the Emberverse"  set in the days and decades aft

Re: [FRIAM] why some people hate cops

Nick sez- > >   > > Well, I hate people who hate.  > I am intolerant only of the intolerant and I have nothing to hate but hate itself! > > Hating something, particularly any category as broad as “religious > people”, is like putting your own eyes out and blaming the darkness.  > I was confronted s

Re: [FRIAM] God in Science and Religion (was Re: why some people hate cops)

Stephen wrote: > I also saw it as an opportunity freeze it in the spotlight to be > studied. There is a hatred and disdain of religion by many in the > "scientific" community. I find it misplaced and hope this dialectic > tension between the religious and scientific may soon resolve in a > modern s

Re: [FRIAM] Time travel article

Cody - I think maybe someone traveled back in time to change the attribution of "the butterfly effect" from that first (recognized) statement by Lorenz in the 70's and in the process (I think) valuable nuances of meaning.   Lorenz is worth reading in his original... technologyreview.com/2011/02/2

Re: [FRIAM] Time travel article

Jochen - I know a lot of people who would like to "bobble up" until Nov 4 or maybe Jan 21 or maybe after 2030... but Vinge's tale is very much a cautionary one! - Steve > Here is the link to the preprint > https://arxiv.org/abs/2001.02511 > > Quantum theory is mentioned in the article only in th

Re: [FRIAM] ideas are lies

Eric - Great "wander" from the main thread...   Your "wander" through the rhetoric of Adam Smith and the abuses of the *ideal* of a free market leads me to (re) offer up the tome written by Tomas Bjorkman:  "The World we Create: From God To Market" .    As a

Re: [FRIAM] deductive fidelity (was Re: ideas are lies)

Glen - I find this "phase space" model of social (and more aptly personal) dynamics very compelling.  It helps me to understand the myriad accusations I have endured in my life of having *this privilege* or *that privilege*... it was always offered (or at least taken) as a moral failure on my part

Re: [FRIAM] President tested positive for virus

Will we be able to tell the difference between fever-dream rants and his normal twitter feed? On 10/2/20 9:00 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > > Study of his twitter feed might give some indication if there were a > change in frequency or tone.   Someone on Rachel Maddow’s staff will > surely do the ex

Re: [FRIAM] President tested positive for virus

I have to say that when I heard of Trump heading to Walter Reed, his phrase about masks "being a bad look" rhymed in my head into "and a respirator is an even worse look". On 10/3/20 4:41 AM, Gillian Densmore wrote: > Can't forget > https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/02/politics/ronna-mcdaniel-coronaviru

Re: [FRIAM] for Nick - prurient entymology

Maybe millenials will start hanging a pair of them from their hitches (those with 1 ton dually diesels)?  At least they will be etymologically correct! Just add toast. On 10/3/20 12:59 PM, thompnicks...@gmail.com wrote: > Dave, > > Why me, oh Lord! Why me? > > Nick > > Nicholas Thompson > Emeri

Re: [FRIAM] Trump as a victim

glen/marcus - My mantra in this context is:  "we all got to be the way we are somehow".    I can claim with seriousness that I *do* spend some of my empathy cycles, trying to grok WTF leads to a Donald Trump, and more to the point what leads to a Donald Trump at the head of our Executive Branch s

Re: [FRIAM] Trump as a victim

Nick - I agree that empathy is a bit spontaneous and emergent for me.   But I *can* cultivate or subdue it somewhat.   This is one of the roles of my *morbid fascination*, which is to *allow* me to cultivate empathy were my first impulse is revulsion or vengeance.  Your image of Trump on Trial *d

Re: [FRIAM] Trump as a victim

Marcus Daniels wrote: > > Once one practices modulating a class of these feelings it changes how > or even if one experiences them.    Having empathy can just be another > form of being reactive which is not a good way for adults to be IMO.  > It is equally reactive to be enraged every time Trump

Re: [FRIAM] Trump as a victim

; podcast that the NYTimes had some incredible reporters.  In an age in > which credibility is the central issue of our time, we do not want to > fudge its meaning. > >   > > n > >   > > Nicholas Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology > > C

Re: [FRIAM] Trump as a victim

Gotta love watching Trump "crack the whip" by tweeting that he's ending COVID relief negotiations, watching the market dip, then implying to turn them back on and watching it bounce back up.   What a power trip!  Imagine that while on Steroids!   I've never taken Steroids, what do I know...   but i

Re: [FRIAM] labels

Ha!  I refer to the last bit as "ok fine, TWIST my drinking arm!" when someone offers to buy me one...   the only one to twists my drinking arm this last six months has been Mary... and Maybe Stephen and his circle on "ZoomGrappaNight". I don't like the language around "packing the court".   I don

Re: [FRIAM] Simulating Cloud Dynamics at Interactive Rates

and me, still excited about Ken Perlin's  "Perlin Noise" work applied to *visually convincing* cloud dynamics circa 2007. https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/5694143 I think this general topic/point is a good study on the difference/utility of "visually compelling" models vs ones useful for *pre

Re: [FRIAM] legendary black dragon

From what (very little) I know of D&D parties/campaigns, these things can go on for weeks!   Do you (Jon & company) have the endurance to keep it up through the election?   It seems like a parallel ritual to my own underway: I'm not up enough on Catholic rituals, or more to the point, local Norten

Re: [FRIAM] labels

t" and "right". Ugh! > > > On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 4:48 PM Steve Smith <mailto:sasm...@swcp.com>> wrote: > > Ha!  I refer to the last bit as "ok fine, TWIST my drinking arm!" when > someone offers to buy me one...   the only one to twist

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zed political parties? > >> On Oct 9, 2020, at 8:40 PM, Steve Smith wrote: >> >>  >> >> I agree that the illusion of there being only the single axis of >> Left/Right is a travesty.   >> >> I also intuit that my own preferences for ranked-choice-

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this is a bit old (2003?) and limited, but someone's attempt at doing this analysis...  http://politics.beasts.org/scripts/eigenvectors On 10/10/20 12:02 AM, Steve Smith wrote: > > > >> It is the first principal component.. > > Agreed, but is that a feature of our winn

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https://academic.oup.com/poq/article-abstract/78/S1/344/1836831 On 10/10/20 12:02 AM, Steve Smith wrote: > > > >> It is the first principal component.. > > Agreed, but is that a feature of our winner-takes-all voting system?   > Do we *like* having our lives/livelihood

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Note that one thing both parties agree on is that we should conceive >> politics as utterly and completely a choice between the two of them. >> God forbid that we conceive of judges using any other dimensions. In >> fact, let's enshrine it in law that we must forever focus on e

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he proposed 5/5) and > then  - > >   > > Note that one thing both parties agree on is that we should > conceive politics as utterly and completely a choice between the > two of them. God forbid that we conceive of judges using any other > dimensio

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patterns.    People really must be gamed and manipulated by > politicians because even the best-intentioned people are often > ignorant of the complexity of the population and the practicalities of > governance.    Worse, many people are blamers who have nothing to add > beyond What’s I

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e, NM 87505 > > 505 670-9918 > Santa Fe, NM > > On Sat, Oct 10, 2020, 12:27 PM Steve Smith <mailto:sasm...@swcp.com>> wrote: > > Marcus - > > (in mild agreement/acknowledgement of your point as I understand it) > > I suppose my own biases about huma

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I'm clocking in at 7 to left and 6 to the anarchistic (down), but find this kind of "test" is prone to conflating things I don't like to conflate.   Even Myers-Briggs with 4 and Enneagrams with 7? have too much of that going on IMO.   I also don't think this is calibrated well, nor is it necessar

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y have a methodology that is at least transparent if not one I fully agree with.   But I haven't bothered to drill down much. https://www.adfontesmedia.com/interactive-media-bias-chart-2/ On 10/10/20 7:09 PM, Steve Smith wrote: > > > I'm clocking in at 7 to left and 6 to the ana

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Speaking of regionalism... I just listened to Ben Sasse of Nebraska (R) give his fellow Senators and those of us watching the Supreme Court Confirmation hearings a lecture on Civics.  Sasse is very articulate and earnest and gave a good case for treating this (and all Judicial appointments) indepe

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uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ wrote: > This test is propaganda, pure and simple. I tend to accept this proposition... > > sunday: Economic Left/Right: -8.75 > Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.92 > > monday: Economic Left/Right: 7.75 > Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 5.9 Can you name these two humunculii who took

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Carl Tollander wrote: > -9,-8.1 > But I do think it would depend a bit on the day. > Oddly, never thought of myself as a libertarian. I think some pretty strong *Fascists* co-opted the term "Libertarian" for themselves.   My experience with the *L*ibertarian self-identified is they seem to lean to

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