Re: [FRIAM] Is programming a mathematical formalism

Russell Standish wrote: > Actually a robot would probably do it the same way we do - trial and > error with some kind of feedback loop. > Excuse a side remark on ABM toolkit stuff. I hadn't played with Breve (http://breve.sf.net) until recently. Some relevant features: 1) 3d with collision

Re: [FRIAM] Bernanke's Financial Modeling Technology

Douglas Roberts wrote: /"...it implements the 20 equations to describe the economy during a credit crunch in a programming language called Matlab from MathWorks/." oh, a. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Frida

Re: [FRIAM] Bernanke's Financial Modeling Technology

Robert Holmes wrote: But if he's modeling hugely aggregated stuff (inflation, GDP, unemployment, national debt) and the impact his policies would have then it's quite possible he'll get just as robust results from a "simplistic" model as he would from some zillion parameter sim The "impact his

Re: [FRIAM] Bernanke's Financial Modeling Technology

Robert Holmes wrote: Look at this way then - if he'd had access to a zillion parameter mega-simulation, do you think we'd all be safe and cozy and /wouldn't/ be in the middle of a financial crisis? Yes, then there would be doubt. A N^zillion reasonable scenarios probably with many different ou

Re: [FRIAM] Bernanke's Financial Modeling Technology

Douglas Roberts wrote: Imagine that three years ago it was announced that a highly-resolved economic simulation was available that could simulate the US economy 3 years into the future. What are the odds that there would have been anybody around with sufficient domain knowledge, foresight, and

Re: [FRIAM] Bernanke's Financial Modeling Technology

Douglas Roberts wrote: DHS is not exactly a paradigm for excellence, but on the other hand how much worse could they be than the Federal Reserve at protecting the economy? Just thinking out loud about how to expediently fund such a modeling effort. ;-) ===

Re: [FRIAM] Bernanke's Financial Modeling Technology

Douglas Roberts wrote: It's a big problem; would require a big budget "This is a big package because it's a big problem," Bush said. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectur

Re: [FRIAM] Willfull Ignorance - Satisfies NickCriteria E

Steve Smith wrote: Yes, and it is not surprising that we would "evolve" personality types to fill this niche. [..] The closest thing I have to an answer (for myself) is to realize that anyone in power is by definition a salesman... they will say and do what it takes to get us to buy their prod

Re: [FRIAM] Willfull Ignorance - Satisfies NickCriteria E

Steve Smith wrote: The point of my talk of ignorance (willful and otherwise) is that to the extent we are complicit in our own problems, we *do* have the ability to retrieve some of our power from those we have given it to out of our own *willful ignorance*. Good rant. :-) I''ll only add th

Re: [FRIAM] Willfull Ignorance - Satisfies NickCriteria E

glen e. p. ropella wrote: Thus spake Douglas Roberts circa 10/05/2008 11:07 AM: You want to talk about willful ignorance? Take a good look around you. Exactly. The trick is: What can we do about it? Hmm, Chelsea Clinton went to work for a hedge fund instead of going in to politi

Re: [FRIAM] Willful Ignorance

glen e. p. ropella wrote: As long as we have a single government that governs 3.5 million square miles, we will have complex laws with lots of loopholes and aggressive special interests who drive campaigns (with money). Special interests with money would then just have to exert less energy ma

Re: [FRIAM] government hierarchy (was Re: Willful Ignorance)

glen e. p. ropella wrote: My suggestion is that the problem is with the way government accumulates (or aggregates). Ok, like the nature of the legislative process or what is constitutional. E.g. perhaps if state government was a direct, "natural", cumulative consequence (and _only_ a direct

Re: [FRIAM] government hierarchy (was Re: Willful Ignorance)

glen e. p. ropella wrote: If _you_ can't manage your own mind/body, then nobody else has any hopes of doing it either. But removing a brain tumor is beyond what I could do for myself. I'm also not the best person to build a space shuttle or for that matter solve a city septic system problem

Re: [FRIAM] government hierarchy (was Re: Willful Ignorance)

glen e. p. ropella wrote: But you're not talking about management, there. You're talking about execution. You _are_ the best person to determine whether or not you _need_ a tumor removed from your brain (regardless of how much an elitist M.D. might tell you otherwise). If a community doesn't

Re: [FRIAM] government hierarchy (was Re: Willful Ignorance)

glen e. p. ropella wrote: This abstraction away from the fully embedded _human_ to idealistic "skill sets" is the problem. It's what leads us to hire "experts" and then remove them from their proper context and place them in positions where they do unimaginable and unforeseen harm (or good). If

Re: [FRIAM] government hierarchy (was Re: Willful Ignorance)

glen e. p. ropella wrote: We're talking about the government for and by "normal" people who revere safety and convenience (which they misname "freedom"). And in that context, they prefer predictability and a minimum of unforeseen consequences... even to the point that they like and want fascism.

Re: [FRIAM] Mail goggles

Douglas Roberts wrote: /"All that effort solving the math problems on time, just to type "You're a dick" and stagger off to bed."/ Nah, hack up some JavaScript to detect the panel, screen scrape and then fill in the form au

Re: [FRIAM] Uh, oh..

Douglas Roberts wrote: Take a look around you. Like what you see? I'm afraid this is as good as it's going to get, at least according to this guy: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article4894696.ece But there's more recombination now, e.g. from the low cost of travel. Anoth

Re: [FRIAM] Relaxed Selection, a b-level posting

Nicholas Thompson wrote: The metaphor is terrible because the time-scale of oscillations of good and bad times in economics is WAY too short for the reproductive capacity of the species to respond. So the "times" are sort of independent of the reproduction of the species. Perhaps not.. ht

Re: [FRIAM] Relaxed Selection, a b-level posting

Phil Henshaw wrote: We could consider the vast variation in canine breeds and the fact that breeding selection as an extreme form of epigenetics has not apparently altered the species they all belong to. Selection from breeding would mostly be constrained genetics, i.e. a big and a small dog

Re: [FRIAM] [simulating] Relaxed Selection

Russell Standish wrote: I'm trying a slightly different tack with Tierra, of artificially inducing mass extinctions every now and then. Cool. A limitation of even `advanced' genetic phylogenetic inference techniques is that they are not only ignorant of protein structure (what DNA changes ar

Re: [FRIAM] Rule 2 and Epigensis

Nicholas Thompson wrote: Much of the research that has been done on epigenetic gene regulation has indeed been done on bacteria! Does that mean that it has few implications for our understanding of macro organisms? http://www.nature.com/ejhg/journal/v15/n7/full/5201832a.html http://www.pnas.

[FRIAM] Origin of the Domestic Dog [Thomas Leitner]

Hi all, Attached is a phylogenetics talk coming up next at the Santa Fe Complex that may be of interest. Also, I see a schedule of other upcoming talks is available at this URL: http://cnls.lanl.gov/q-bio/seminar-series/index.php/Public_Lectures Cheers, Marcus --- Begin Message --- CNLS

Re: [FRIAM] Can Math Cure Cancer? - Forbes.com

peter wrote: http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2008/1027/074.html Now this is MATH with a purpose Some distributed computing projects related to this.. http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/projects_showcase/viewResearch.do As a form of `cloud computing' systems, these projects actually distribute th

[FRIAM] first of LANL-sponsored series at the Santa Fe Complex, 7pm Tuesday

fyi.. http://www.lanl.gov/news/index.php/fuseaction/nb.story/story_id/14796 FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org

Re: [FRIAM] Election: Why So Close

Isn't the so-called Flynn Effect still considered true? Is there more recent data for the U.S. (besides Bush being elected twice) that says otherwise? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_the_Wealth_of_Nations

[FRIAM] XO laptop on Fedora 10 GNU/Linux

Hi, In case anyone is still interested in XO/OLPC software development, I've been using the Fedora 10 GNU/Linux system betas and noticed that it is now just a matter of running "yum install sugar" to get the XO environment as an option at the bottom of the login screen (instead of GNOME).

Re: [FRIAM] Why Model?

Douglas Roberts wrote: Why think, when there is dogma to save you the bother? A quick check of Wikipedia might suggest an explanation.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indoctrination "Indoctrination is the process of inculcating ideas, attitudes, cognitive strategies or a professional methodolog

Re: [FRIAM] Fundamentalist-based Republicanism

Douglas Roberts wrote: I suppose that when the RWRDDA movement (Right Wing Religious Dumbing Down of America) movement becomes sufficiently intolerable to more of our scientific community, additional folks will begin to speak out on the subject. Perhaps if we get a Creationist Vice President

Re: [FRIAM] Fundamentalist-based Republicanism

Douglas Roberts wrote: That, and a hopelessly corrupted US-wide educational system which provided an environment that was prone to caving in to the demands of the "Moral Majority". Another dimension of the Republican world view is found in trickle-down economics. In this view, there are people

Re: [FRIAM] In Praise of Doubt, and ...

Saul Caganoff wrote: If you're not a Communist at 20 then you have no heart. If you're still a Communist at 30 then you have no brain. Idealism has to be sustainable. One needs resources to bring to bear on ideas and a means to attach and detach within a reasonable range of risk. These thing

Re: [FRIAM] Say Goodbye to BlackBerry? If Obama Has to, Yes He Can - NYTimes.com

Owen Densmore wrote: We'd have to give up blackberry's and presumably any smartphone etc. due to the Presidential Records Act: Why can't the National Archives provide the IMAP/SMTP/VOIP servers to record it? Must be government/military officials that already have super-secure VPNs based on

[FRIAM] Adobe Alchemy

http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/alchemy/ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org

Re: [FRIAM] Time for some Slashdot perspective

Sunny Fugate wrote: That is, unless your company demands that you use a specific software vendor's product. Then it really is a prison, or at least a detention area. If your company demands that you use *only* a specific software, then it's your company that's the prison. Otherwise, get Virt

Re: [FRIAM] Adobe Alchemy

glen e. p. ropella wrote: Thus spake Saul Caganoff circa 11/20/2008 04:01 PM: Hmmm c/c++ into actionscript. Is this gold into lead or lead into gold? Prolly more like turkeys into chickens. In the case of codes with a lot of dynamic message dispatch (Objective C), Firefox's new JI

Re: [FRIAM] Adobe Alchemy

Saul Caganoff wrote: Hmmm c/c++ into actionscript. It's not a source -> source transformation, it's a matter of what the target object code is, i.e. bytecode instead of x86. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a

Re: [FRIAM] Bye Matlab, hello Python, thanks Sage « Bloody Fingers

Owen Densmore wrote: While wandering the halls of Sage, I came across this: http://vnoel.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/bye-matlab-hello-python-thanks-sage/ SciPy has a lot of stuff, but for statistics it's not in same league of R. R itself a versatile programming language and has a vast set of

[FRIAM] Sage

Few things I noticed about Sage: 1) Symbolic math is courtesy of Maxima, a.k.a. Macsyma, the classic math Lisp program of MIT. [1] sage: x,y=var('x,y') sage: solve([y==x^2,y==x/2],x,y) [[x == 1/2, y == 1/4], [x == 0, y == 0]] sage: Exiting SAGE (CPU time 0m1.67s, Wall time 1m20.01s). Exiting sp

Re: [FRIAM] Sage

Owen Densmore wrote: - It integrates just about every open source math library into a python. I had no idea just how much of scientific computing had moved to python. R, for example has rpy. The entire GSL (Gnu Science Library) has pygsl. Somehow numpy/scipy/matplotlib all got rationally i

[FRIAM] JavaFX

I see JavaFX is out. JavaFX is another in the Flash Silverlight space. Runs on the JVM, but that's it. A couple of interesting things are the hooks for variable updates and lazy evaluation `bind' feature. Meanwhile Moonlight (open source Silverlight) is out in beta and pulls Microsoft's cod

[FRIAM] Spore

Holiday shoppers, fyi: http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/322/5901/531b FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org

Re: [FRIAM] Opportunity to upgrade

rob...@cirrillian.com wrote: Well, my trusty Dell laptop HD has probebly died giving me an opportunity to upgrade to the next best thing. The next best thing must still be a laptop, runs Apache, MySQL and PHP, GIMP and screams, for minimum bucks, for all round office use and web development. I

Re: [FRIAM] Opportunity to upgrade

Owen Densmore wrote: One example occurred a while back when we bought a SlingBox. Its a nifty device that makes your TV available on the web. Which begs the question: Why isn't TV available on the internet anyway? Why download it through one protocol (say analog NTSC) only to uplink throug

Re: [FRIAM] Poll: which scripting languages are available on your computer?

> What language could I write a script in (no graphics, simply text in, text > out) that would run on all the computers used by Friam folks? Javascript! FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. Jo

Re: [FRIAM] Poll: which scripting languages are available on your computer?

Owen Densmore wrote: BUT: the pipe paradigm of unix shells allows you to have the input be a file and the output to be piped into a file or another program. The browser can be used as a hierarchical blackboard (the DOM) between a producer and a consumer while JavaScript 1.7's `yield' can switch

Re: [FRIAM] The impact of snark on reproducibility

glen e. p. ropella wrote: Indeed, when that infrastructure is present, it allows the conversants to explore very subtle and sophisticated conceptual constructs. But when that infrastructure is absent, it fosters miscommunication and whatever particular psychological artifacts that may ensue from

Re: [FRIAM] OLPC

Dale Schumacher wrote: Do you count FORTH as a scripting language? It's interactive, dynamically scoped, imperative and stack-based. And one of the few languages that can be used for performance-sensitive, footprint-limited applications (e.g. systems programming, graphics). PostScript of cou

Re: [FRIAM] Poll: which agent-based model is most fundamental?

Jochen Fromm wrote: In Physics there are many equations, but only a few are really fundamental (for example the Maxwell equations, or Newton's laws, etc.). What agent-based model do you know and which are the most fundamental? Hmm, in systems biology, one technique that is used heavily is the ht

Re: [FRIAM] Poll: which scripting languages are available on your computer?

rob...@cirrillian.com wrote: Beware of "the assumption that the browser has a fully dynamic DOM with methods such as |document.createElement|, |replaceChild| and |appendChild|. Browsers do not live up to that expectation, some are not that dynamic and while they may implement some of the Core

Re: [FRIAM] Poll: which scripting languages are available on your computer?

Owen Densmore wrote: Jaxer is the critter that pulls off this magic. http://www.aptana.com/jaxer I see a copy of the Mozilla source tree is in their source distribution. That worries me a little. How many modifications have they had to make and maintain?But I think the idea is right on

Re: [FRIAM] science and art ways forward together

Douglas Roberts wrote: Why do you think there is such a disproportionate number of churches in Los Alamos, compared to average small town America? Ann Racuya-Robbins wrote: Can science and engineering be value free or outside the domain of values? I would certainly hope so, but the evidence D

Re: [FRIAM] What to do with knowledge

Russ Abbott wrote: Let's assume that you discovered that human beings were built in such a way that a certain kind of virus would wipe most of us out. The killer 1918 Flu virus has been pieced together [1] and a synthetic polio virus has been made too [2]. This will only get easier and I'm su

Re: [FRIAM] What to do with knowledge

Owen Densmore wrote: Bill Joy was ripped for his observation that new technologies are almost certain to be misused, and suggested the knowledge be guarded .. For all of his reservations about the fragility of technology and the limitations of human design, the Internet did happen. That came f

Re: [FRIAM] What to do with knowledge

Russ Abbott wrote: > The argument seems to go that knowledge about (dangerous possibility) > phenomenon X might be put to bad use. Therefore we should destroy or > at least control that knowledge. > > I don't think that's completely off the mark. To the extent that we > can control knowledge we may

Re: [FRIAM] What to do with knowledge

Russ Abbott wrote: > We can't change nature so that E ≠ MC^2 . > ? FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org

Re: [FRIAM] Poll: which agent-based model is most fundamental?

glen e. p. ropella wrote: So, the task is to further slice up the classification so that each method can be evaluated in the context of a domain as, say, "very useful in that domain", "useful", "not very useful". (If you don't like the categories (1-3) above, then come up with some others. You

Re: [FRIAM] Callling all cladisticists

Nicholas Thompson wrote: But what then about cladistics. Cladistics is a dark art of classification that uses a variety of obscure incantations to lable relations amongst species without, so far as I understand, any reference to evolution. Yet, as I understand it, cladistics is not arbitra

Re: [FRIAM] Callling all cladisticists

Russ Abbott wrote: But if you are interested in the best current thinking about a subject, why should you care how people thought about it 4 centuries ago? What if there are common processes behind learning and insight and they are general and timeless? ===

Re: [FRIAM] Callling all cladisticists

Douglas Roberts wrote: I seriously doubt that there is a one-size-fits-all taxonomy classifier for ABMs that will produce anything other than "No shit!" rudimentary descriptive information about any given ABM. It might be informative to see map of invented conceptual attributes and applications

Re: [FRIAM] Classification of ABM's

Douglas Roberts wrote: There are many alternative simulation styles to an ABM simulation architecture: * Discrete-event queuing models * Continuous systems simulation (ex: CSMP) * Procedural discrete event (ex: SimSCRIPT) * CA The use (or not) of a subroutine in the underlying

Re: [FRIAM] models that bite back

Phil Henshaw wrote: All well and good, …unless something in the environment develops a continuity of divergence A model can be built around whatever hunch and evaluated in a Bayesian framework. At some point, if the divergence really exists, the model will reflect that in its likelihood. It

Re: [FRIAM] models that bite back

Phil Henshaw wrote: That's only in you model, and leaves out the rest of the world. My "hunch" is it's good to watch the rest of the world for diverging continuities too... Nothing prevents a person from explicitly representing and revising beliefs about the world in a model, especially in

Re: [FRIAM] models that bite back

Phil Henshaw writes: A model invariably represents only a person's belief's about the world. Consider surveys of undecided voters where during a debate the surveyed turn their individual dials to indicate approval or disapproval. The physical subject being represented is both fabulously mo

Re: [FRIAM] models that bite back

Phil Henshaw wrote: And,... how does a poll, or a military analysis tell you what emotions are going through people's minds? Given a hunch or actual evidence that a class of emotions have relevance to an interesting mass behavior, a poll could be open-ended, where those polled would describe th

Re: [FRIAM] Verizon FiOS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Owen Densmore wrote: I'm wondering if it really feels "snappier" than vanilla broadband. One issue is how fast neighborhood physical links are to individual homes. Another is how heavy the load is and fast the network uplinking is for particular neighborhoods.. For example, with Wifi, in pri

Re: [FRIAM] Verizon FiOS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Nick Frost wrote: I think people using Comcast cable Internet, DSL, and FiOS will see less of the problems typically associated with using wireless for Internet connections when other wired alternatives are available. Yeah, I didn't mean to suggest that cooperative/municipal wireless is an alt

Re: [FRIAM] Test

Douglas Roberts wrote: We're just quietly gearing up for a week's worth of inauguration parties, here in Santa Fe. http://tinstarmusic.blogspot.com/2009/01/inauguration-party-week.html Head out a bit earlier and first hit this talk at the Santa Fe Complex.. http://www.lanl.gov/news/index.php/

Re: [FRIAM] Slashdot | Canonical Close To $30M Critical Mass; Should Microsoft Worry?

Douglas Roberts wrote: I have not found one that I cannot play/view. Well, ok. Silverlight. There is no native Linux Silverlight client. http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2009/Jan-20.html FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets

Re: [FRIAM] Slashdot | Canonical Close To $30M Critical Mass; Should Microsoft Worry?

Roger Crichlow: I don't expect the distro wars to ever settle. What I'd call progress is the degree to which developers of individual programs streamline their programs based on input from various distribution builders. To the extent that doesn't happen (large unintegrated patches or growing

[FRIAM] desktop computer leasing

Hi, Does anyone have recommendations for long-term leasing of supported desktop computers (e.g. 2 years)? The main goal would be to buy a service for a dozen or perhaps two dozen computers usable for a certain set of applications, i.e. the particular specifications of the computers weren't ne

Re: [FRIAM] desktop computer leasing

Douglas Roberts wrote: Give us some more of the background behind this hypothetical question, Marcus. What's the real requirement? To produce Word 2003-compatible docs? .xls? Or Office 2007-perverted, encrypted, non-backwards compatible versions of same? A reliable web browser is the only

Re: [FRIAM] desktop computer leasing

Douglas Roberts wrote: And just exactly what does "keeping the web browser working " actually mean, anyhow? Well, in this case, it's a given that the wireless network is `maintained', and that lots of people will complain independent of these systems working or not. That is, it wouldn't be san

Re: [FRIAM] desktop computer leasing

Nick Frost wrote: At my last job we rented 12 computers (Macs and PC's) from Bit-by-Bit/SmartSource computer rentals in the San Francisco area and were pleased with the results. I believe the same company was used this past October 2008 and I heard good feedback. Thanks Nick! ===

Re: [FRIAM] RANT: Acronyms

Nicholas Thompson wrote: The purpose of acronyms is -- present company exempted! -- to solidify an ingroup by being unintelligible to outsiders. If an `ingroup' can communicate concisely and accurately about things in the world that individuals not in the group cannot, then that group has ach

Re: [FRIAM] Stevey's Blog Rants: Rhino on Rails

Prof David West wrote: If you are trying to emulate a "machine" - i.e. solve a problem with a known, formal, solution - use C or C++. That is what the language was created to do, and nothing will be as 'machinelike' as a well-crafted C++ program. It's limiting that C is the primary language f

Re: [FRIAM] Stevey's Blog Rants: Rhino on Rails

Owen wrote: Architectural studies look at the system from a 50,000 foot view, so that the student can understand how the whole system works. Implementation studies look at how a practitioner would, on the job, build part of a system. If in fact it is possible for a student to understand

Re: [FRIAM] Stevey's Blog Rants: Rhino on Rails

Parks, Raymond wrote: Owen Densmore wrote: ... Really hip programming teams will define a subset of all these systems that are platform independent -- i.e. work on all systems. They will stick to these subsets, understanding that sometimes constraints really are freedoms. I hav

Re: [FRIAM] Stevey's Blog Rants: Rhino on Rails

Prof David West wrote: Years ago, companies were demanding that all of their applications be written in C++, because of speed and because of "features" like multiple inheritance and friend declarations that "improved the efficiency of your code." Even Squeak introduces `traits' for aspect-orient

[FRIAM] on the benefits of working for Apple

http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2009/02/friday-apple-links-dancing-with-the-woz-edition.ars FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http:/

Re: [FRIAM] cafe wifi in los alamos?

Douglas Roberts wrote: BTW, the Furor of the Day, for those of you who don't follow the shenanigans up at LANL, is that LANS , the Los Alamos M&O contractor, has banned pdf email attachments. Any and all pdf attachments are being deep-sixed by the corporate email server. Normally such things

Re: [FRIAM] cafe wifi in los alamos?

Parks, Raymond wrote: We (SNL) did that briefly last summer because of the vulnerabilities with Acrobat and Reader versions < 8.2. Once we got everyone converted to 9.0, we allowed those attachments. I know it was a real problem because we spearphished a customer with the Adobe vulnerability

Re: [FRIAM] cafe wifi in los alamos?

Parks, Raymond wrote http://blog.metasploit.com/2009/02/best-defense-is-information.html Like, say, source code. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsub

Re: [FRIAM] Stevey's Blog Rants: Rhino on Rails

Hi, Here's a new language that may be of interest: a dynamically-typed rewriting language, sort of a cross between Smalltalk and Haskell. http://code.google.com/p/pure-lang/ Note the native-code LLVM backend. Marcus FRIAM Applied

Re: [FRIAM] complexity science map...

Or for a larger view.. Bollen J, Van de Sompel H, Hagberg A, Bettencourt L, Chute R, et al. 2009 Clickstream Data Yields High-Resolution Maps of Science. PLoS ONE 4(3): e4803. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0004803 http://www.plosone.org/article/fetchObjectAttachment.action;jsessionid=12DB59B

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: New issue of Journal of Artificial Societies and Social Simulation, vol. 12(2)

Douglas Roberts wrote: Don't get me wrong: I like pretty colored splotches as much as the next guy; I'd just prefer that my viz apps tell me something useful about my particular application. Sure, building useful instruments is not just an exercise in visual design. Domain and mo

[FRIAM] Tuesday: set your DVRs!

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Re: [FRIAM] Obama on nuclear energy

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/15/opinion/15friedman.html?_r=1 FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org

Re: [FRIAM] Obama on nuclear energy

Douglas Roberts wrote: http://www.google.com/search?q=NIF+lanl+the+rest+of+the+story&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a Sk

Re: [FRIAM] random vs pseudo-random

Possibly of interest.. http://www.cs.rice.edu/~kvp1 http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/feb2005/tc2005024_2426_tc024.htm http://www.technologyreview.com/read_article.aspx?ch=specialsections&sc=emerging08&id=20246 FRIAM Appl

Re: [FRIAM] random vs pseudo-random

Owen Densmore wrote: Most of computing does not need to be exact .. a slight "error" generally is not terrible and for imaging, audio, and so on simply is not observable by a human. And if what you need is a *lot* of random numbers [1], why do dozens of cycles of exact arithmetic and memory loo

Re: [FRIAM] random vs pseudo-random

Douglas Roberts wrote: What leads you to suspect that the CPU I/O noise is random? The noise generated by such comes from a chipset that operates at a given frequency, which is powered by an AC source running at another frequency, filtered through a power supply with capacitors, resistors, et

Re: [FRIAM] FW: NYTimes.com: End the University as We Know It

Also see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayre%27s_Law The emphasis on narrow scholarship also encourages an educational system that has become a process of cloning. Faculty members cultivate those students whose futures they envision as identical to their own pasts, even though their tenures wi

Re: [FRIAM] FW: NYTimes.com: End the University as We Know It

Russ Abbott wrote: A world in which everyone is a term employee would be a chaotic jungle. Actually it sounds pretty good. For one thing, the `good' positions (I guess that basically means autonomous R&D for a lot of us) would have more turnover and more minds would offer fresh perspectives o

Re: [FRIAM] linux phylogenetic tree software

glen e. p. ropella wrote: Anyone know of a good linux/foss package for reading FASTA data files and rendering trees?. First you'll need to take your FASTA files get an alignment. Good packages for that are mafft and Muscle. Then take your alignment infer your tree. To do that, one good

[FRIAM] Fwd: Extension of Abstract Deadline for Swarmfest 2009

Extension of Call for Participation for Swarmfest 2009 in Santa Fe, New Mexico June 28-30, 2009 Abstract Deadline now is May 8, 2009, with decision responses back by May 11, 2009. Swamfest is the annual meeting of the Swarm Development Group (SDG), and one of the oldest communities involved in

Re: [FRIAM] The Computer Language Benchmarks Game

Owen Densmore wrote: Every month or so I check out the state of programming languages here: http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/ Note that in the best performing benchmarks, the GHC Haskell compiler matches GNU C++ and beats Java and on other tests and platforms is within a factor of two of Jav

Re: [FRIAM] [sfx: Discuss] Re: Distributed Agents and Alan Kay's Universal Interface Language

Stephen Guerin wrote: Scalable eventually to on the order of a million agents per Internet-connected device. An order of magnitude less for mobile phones and a few more for beefy servers. So maybe, I don't know, 10^9 devices * 10^6 agents/device = 10^15 agents. Hmm. Mobile phones will have mo

Re: [FRIAM] Distributed Agents and Alan Kay's Universal Interface Language

russell standish wrote: By comparison, doing MPI programming using a simple class reflection library is total dream. Can do whole thing (generating MPI serialization code) at compile time, without any markup, even with plain C: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Dehydra ===

Re: [FRIAM] Distributed Agents and Alan Kay's Universal Interface Language

Douglas Roberts wrote: Oregon just passed an assisted suicide law... To better describe agent-oriented, I would like to extend an object to: 1) 2) 3) have control over its own execution 4) 5) Typically garbage collectors observe for objects that are isolated

Re: [FRIAM] Distributed Agents and Alan Kay's Universal Interface Language

Stephen Guerin wrote: 3) have control over its own execution Because resources are finite, an object can only seek resources, e.g. through scheduling protocols for a resource or through growth and reproduction. Agents don't have free will any more than we do. :-)

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