Re: [FRIAM] patriot hackers, again

Is it possible that all the talk of mass surveillance, surgical special-ops, and mission impossible themes of the Bin Laden-Bush W years were nothing more than hype/propaganda? Are the police, FBI, NSA, etc... simply the donut-loving porkchop-eating bumbling Columbo's of the '70s and '80s? I never

Re: [FRIAM] Talent and Moral Luck - Steelman attempt

I do watch computers play go against each other. I play go because, like studying or exercise, it feels good. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly

Re: [FRIAM] Talent and Moral Luck - Steelman attempt

Very well summarized. I am hearing that Nick's question is one of cultural cultivation. Finding and maintaining a sweet spot seems crucial. Is it the responsibility and obligation of those with power to sit at the head of the household, to play the role of daddy to all free persons? I watched a DW

Re: [FRIAM] Talent and Moral Luck - Steelman attempt

yeah, exactly! Are we implying that Trump is now *officially* a terrorist? -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://r

Re: [FRIAM] Talent and Moral Luck - Steelman attempt

That is true, though not free of further consideration. Eric's steelman highlights a tight coupling between individual and society, tight enough that actions on the *negative space*[1] of society are effective actions induced on the individual. Similar arguments arise when we talk about lowering on

Re: [FRIAM] Talent and Moral Luck - Steelman attempt

Cool. You have a sort of *Komi* system for chess. I very much appreciate three-player go similarly, with one additional variation. When each player makes a move they must state something about the meaning or intent of their move. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. .

Re: [FRIAM] Talent and Moral Luck - Steelman attempt

freaking amazing! -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives: h

Re: [FRIAM] Talent and Moral Luck - Steelman attempt

"maybe "what needs to be done" is back down our leverage ( kind of like limiting the killing power of weapons in the hands of individuals, or the performance/wastefulness of other technologies with known bad side-effects... automobiles, water-wasting systems, etc.)" I very much agree, but I must p

Re: [FRIAM] Talent and Moral Luck - Steelman attempt

Thank you for moving the discussion of ethics further along its bifurcated decision tree. Marcus' *it's all levers* remark summarizes (as far as I understand it) a serious post-modern position/observation. Many on the list (though not uniquely so) strawman PM by the silly boys and girls producing t

Re: [FRIAM] it's world logic day!

By my internal model of Nick, I would guess that he is referring to Peirce. Though it is funny to imagine that logic has done nothing of consequence since 1914, that no other thinkers have come along and moved the subject forward, and that logicians still simply practice the subject from within som

Re: [FRIAM] it's world logic day!

I don't mean to derail here, but I would love to see an analysis of the tonk operator as a terminal object in an additive category. It seems like it's function is a lot like the zero vector space or the trivial group in a category with exact sequences. Idk. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.n

Re: [FRIAM] it's world logic day!

Hopefully in the most loving way. I very much admire the dedication of a focused scholar, but I also enjoy poking a little fun at inevitable myopia. Chandrasekar likely feels like you do about Newton, but that wouldn't stop me from giggling when he speaks of Newton as the foremost Physicist. --

Re: [FRIAM] Rotary Cell Phone (Description and Build)

"... that you should already know how to use it, and that's bullshit!" She is amazing! I know she asked me not to subscribe, but it is hard not to. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zo

Re: [FRIAM] Rotary Cell Phone (Description and Build)

Perhaps. Though I do find it sad that synthesizer design (for instance) so quickly converged onto piano-like interfaces and the occasional switch pad. For a moment there in the 70s and 80s, thanks to explorative minds of people like the writers of ElectroNotes, there was the possibility of somethin

Re: [FRIAM] Rotary Cell Phone (Description and Build)

ps. And just to be clear, I am agreeing with you. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listin

Re: [FRIAM] Rotary Cell Phone (Description and Build)

Yes, my response was messy and pre-coffee. Allow me to try again. Smacking an acoustic guitar is something like smacking an electric guitar, and neither is like smacking a keytar. The *novelty arising from misuse* is maybe the surprise that the keytar *smacks* so horribly or that the other two art

Re: [FRIAM] Rotary Cell Phone (Description and Build)

Circuit bending is so wonderful! A well-placed diode in my *big muff* pedal has turned it into some other monster altogether. Phosphenes, I didn't know the name for that phenomenon! I did some recent audio rendering of DNA, and as a couple of people have pointed out it isn't yet listenable enough t

Re: [FRIAM] Rotary Cell Phone (Description and Build)

"What might it sound like when a ribosome constructs spike proteins from the vaccines? Or when an immune cell grabs it?" Oh, that would be the dream! -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv

[FRIAM] Another Abel prize interview

Here is another pretty good Abel Prize interview, this one is with Srinivasa S. R. Varadhan. Around 46 minutes he talks a little bit about work that had ties to the work Reuben did on probabilistic methods for solving PDEs via work with Kac. He does not mention Reuben explicitly, but yeah, good stu

Re: [FRIAM] Another Abel prize interview

mmm... perhaps even better is this one with Reuben's advisor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TU1WNG68YfY&ab_channel=TheAbelPrize He talks about all kinds of good stuff: the work of Richtmyer, solutions, nonlinear approximations, carving semi-groups from unitary Lie groups in the study of scatteri

Re: [FRIAM] Rotary Cell Phone (Description and Build)

Rad. Thanks for all of this. I noticed Bradford Reed's Pencilina at the GA Tech link! I shared a bill with him at a concert club in Cleveland circa 2000 when he with his Pencilina was the rhythm section for King Missile. Shortly after, the violin player for m

Re: [FRIAM] Rotary Cell Phone (Description and Build)

That same violin player invented his own instrument called *The Horrible Snoddlewinsch* . After sawing in half an oil drum, he welded the front of a bathtub to it and some miscellaneous rebar. He then stretched strings o

Re: [FRIAM] Another Abel prize interview

That's awesome! -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC h

Re: [FRIAM] exploiting the uncanny valley...

>From a naive glance, there appears a misleading duality, that of approaching the valley from one side or the other. For instance, the use of puppets to bring the non-human closer to the human: Jim Henson's work, the dancing figures in Kimmel's piece, the neural net fake exemplified by "Nixon's mo

Re: [FRIAM] exploiting the uncanny valley...

Yes! Please say more. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-C

Re: [FRIAM] Acronyms

Hopefully limiting trade to when it is necessary. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listin

Re: [FRIAM] Acronyms

The computer interprets both of Glen's *root* functions as being different, so clarity walks a very different line there. Only sometimes do we get the extensional equivalence of functions. Clarity, in a broader sense, often requires substitution. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/

Re: [FRIAM] Acronyms

Ah, yeah, and then there is YAML (YAML Ain't Markup Language") -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/m

Re: [FRIAM] Acronyms

Nick , Please pardon a second attempt to address your question. Let me grant your definition of *rigor* as meaning *that which compiles*. *Clarity*, however, I would like to treat differently. What strikes me as a structural difference between *rigor* and *clarity* here is that the former (as narr

Re: [FRIAM] Acronyms

Maybe someone has posted this before, but it also seems relevant here: Coding graphics in the 140 character limit -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom F

Re: [FRIAM] Acronyms

That is so very wonderful! L'arte dei Rumori! -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/f

Re: [FRIAM] Acronyms

I am not sure that it is all that helpful to point out, but I will point out that we don't come at all close to even hearing from the majority of us let alone knowing what the majority of us thinks or is familiar with. Contributions on this forum likely follow some kind of Pareto distribution. What

Re: [FRIAM] and you thought your home office was messy!

Wow. That could easily be a gangster techno music video. Counting Benjamins, counting Hryvnia, counting hard drives (probably with my bank info on it) and credit cards. Was that a thermometer on the machine? The comment section was nearly as good. "материнська плата. Їй щонаменше 20 років Це точно

Re: [FRIAM] coding versus music

Yeah, that book is a classic and written in Lisp! -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listin

Re: [FRIAM] coding versus music

Whoa, Nick! That was Dave and not me. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_red

Re: [FRIAM] Message to the non-posting 95%

Ha! Sounds about right. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM

[FRIAM] Yet another Abel prize interview

This time Hillel Furstenberg , whose topological proof of the / infinitude of primes/ [1] is one of my all-time favorites. Here he discusses int

Re: [FRIAM] Strawman/Steelman

I don't have much to contribute here as finance has always eluded me. A couple of years ago, a researcher friend of mine turned me on to Quantopian[$]. I had always meant to get involved because their model seemed interesting. One develops a trading algorithm, Quantopian paper trades using the algo

Re: [FRIAM] Strawman/Steelman

nice! I wouldn't have known the likely connection. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listi

Re: [FRIAM] Strawman/Steelman

Another favorite and along tangential lines: """ Riot shields Voodoo economics It's life, it's life It's just business Cattle prods and the I.M.F. I trust I can rely on your vote """ -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM

Re: [FRIAM] coding versus music

FWIW, my position is probably best summarized in an interview with Yuri Manin, where he states: "I have once translated a talk by Donald Knuth into Russian. In Uzbekistan, there was a meeting dedicated to Al'khorezmi. Knuth started his talk with a funny statement. In his opinion, the primary impor

[FRIAM] Secrets of the Surface: 2020 documentary on Maryam Mirzakhani

I am looking forward to seeing this documentary. It seems like it could be inspiring for the mathematics education enthusiasts on the list. About the Iranian Fields Medalist, Maryam Mirzakhani, the documentary highlights the challenges women (and perhaps especially Iranian women) face and are begin

Re: [FRIAM] coding versus music

No doubt that developments with dependent types and the formally-provable code movement (I feel like I can call it that) is worthy of attention. Wrt Manin's (and by extension Knuth's) comment, I almost see this movement as bearing fruit functorially in the mathematics community[L]. Playfully, I see

Re: [FRIAM] Secrets of the Surface: 2020 documentary on Maryam Mirzakhani

That piece is really cool. Thanks for sharing it! -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listin

Re: [FRIAM] Secrets of the Surface: 2020 documentary on Maryam Mirzakhani

tangentially related, and perhaps also of interest to mathematics advocates here in the southwest, is another documentary by Csicsery called *Navajo Math Circles*: http://www.zalafilms.com/navajo/about.html """ Hundreds of Navajo children in recent years have found themselves at the center of a li

[FRIAM] mathematics and politics

and in other Reddit news... Mathematicians are redundant in Leicester Algebraic geometer arrested for protesting the detention of Alexey Nevalny

Re: [FRIAM] mathematics and politics

I have to admit that I found the part cute where Navalny stands outside a soviet-era apartment complex and lets us know that this was the home and humble beginnings of Vladimir Vladimirovich. As a comparative study, I find the approaches of politicians in the US and in Russia intriguing, could they

Re: [FRIAM] mathematics and politics

I suppose I get that Leicester can restructure whatever it is they believe they offer however they wish. As an outsider, I cannot help but feel a little shocked that a public research university appears to fail to understand the value of pure mathematics. In particular, the failure would not only b

Re: [FRIAM] mathematics and politics

Is that sarcasm? The US is clearly not a peaceful nation. I think I can agree if you are claiming some kind of aesthetic distinction, something about a group of mobsters wants to be perceived, Corleones in suits. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. ..

Re: [FRIAM] mathematics and politics

Good to hear. It is not mockery. When I observe politicians I cannot help but wonder about the trappings of power. Each expression may fairly be interpretable, Navalny's or AOC's, on some level as a bid in a perpetual game of political narrative scoping, a rhetorical performance insisting "this is

Re: [FRIAM] mathematics and politics

To some extent I agree, though I reject the choice of either A *or* B. I prefer to make room for longer formal expressions and attempt to make use of them as their own thing. When confronted by need I partially evaluate as needed. We live in a post-net-neutrality era of Instagram influencers, Twit

Re: [FRIAM] mathematics and politics

I also would have been scared as hell to be at the capitol on that day, heels or not. Navalny, I suspect is scared too. I do not wish to pick on AOC, and prefer to believe that she (like many women in my life) just might punch a nazi. The appeal to vulnerability and the will to do rhetorical battle

[FRIAM] While walking to get tacos...

Above my house, an unkindness of ravens flew. And distinguished from the many was one whose feathers shone white, almost translucent against the sky in the bright sunlight. Is this a common genetic variant? -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -.

Re: [FRIAM] While walking to get tacos...

What seemed strange to me was that the bird was only partially albino. Only the remiges were white, and the distinction persisted as the unkindness flew away. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group

Re: [FRIAM] While walking to get tacos...

I was curious about the magpies. While I occasionally see them on Upper Canyon or in the Sangre de Cristos, I have never seen them further south than Patrick Smith park. I was curious why there would be such a sensible boundary/frontier, usually keeping my junior evolutionary theorist speculations

Re: [FRIAM] Jedi Blue?

FWIW, I very much relate to the article. I am a late adopter of cellphones, still only having a landline and not feeling impressed when I witness those around me (especially in my school days) *tune in and drop out*. Then, somewhere along the trajectory of my career with computers, it happened. I n

Re: [FRIAM] ethical dilemma

Please take it, you are (IMO) more beneficial to us all when you have time to think and to contribute how you see fit. Of course, I also think that the world will be a very different place in 6 months, vaccine or not. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-

Re: [FRIAM] neural/symbolic integration workshop

Rad! I signed up. Hope to see others there. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/fri

Re: [FRIAM] ethical dilemma

Ah. Ok, I will try again. I take it that when you ask whether this or that is *ethical*, you are asking not only for a result but also for a framework for interpreting that ethical result. As I suspect you would guess about me, I am uncertain that there is almost ever a *natural* choice of ethical

Re: [FRIAM] what complexity science says ...

I am not sure it fair to say *entirely falsifies how the cochlea works*. In some sense, we perform *at least* a Fourier transform, even if it isn't computed completely at the cochlea. We, and especially musicians, find it more natural to speak about sound in terms of spectra (timbre and pitch, say)

Re: [FRIAM] what complexity science says ...

There is something about that image that reminds me of wavelets, localized in both time as well as frequency. Perhaps there is something to be gained in hearing aid technology by considering this shift? -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-.

Re: [FRIAM] what complexity science says ...

If I remember correctly, this wasn't Mike's argument. It was *not* a question of sampling rate nor one of range. Instead, I believe, it had to do with architecture, the Spatio-temporal relationship that the neurons at the cochlea have to one another, and the training our nervous system undergoes wh

[FRIAM] To Desire is to Construct (a conversation with Gilles Deleuze)

While falling down a YouTube-interview rabbit hole, in an effort to understand Deleuze's more obscure writings, I came across a delightful collection of interviews[א] conducted by Claire Parnet. Presently, I am listening to D as Desire

Re: [FRIAM] Jodie Foster explains about modulation (on empathy, acting)

Thanks, that interview is pretty great. She also mentions her work as "Nell", where she digs deep into vulnerability, a place that Foster expresses little historical interest in wanting to go as an actress. Is it *empathy* that an actor experiences when they compartmentalize *into* such a character

[FRIAM] Me Too, Cancel Culture, and Art

Briefly, last vFriam, a couple of us got to talking about the complicated relationship between the Me Too movement, cancel culture, and art. Too often, and likely due to the sensitive nature of the topic, I find that the challenging questions posed are quickly and all too thoughtlessly dispatched.

Re: [FRIAM] Jodie Foster explains about modulation (on empathy, acting)

I was under the impression that *to have it* is to empathize. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/ma

Re: [FRIAM] Me Too, Cancel Culture, and Art

Ha! Yeah, that would be pretty wonderful. Some of my favorite graffiti art in the city (and elsewhere) has that quality. Have you seen the piece dedicated to Onate's foot along the river trail? -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-

Re: [FRIAM] Me Too, Cancel Culture, and Art

Here you go, though seeing it in person is better. It is hard here to make out the 20 different feet placed about the mural and a number of the other thoughtful additions. It is easy to walk by a statue of Onate on his horse and know

Re: [FRIAM] what complexity science says ...

Along the lines of Marcus' comments, I feel that there is quite a bit to say about couplings: device to the cochlea, cochlea to mind. At each stage, problems of impedance matching exist, purely acoustic matchings as-well-as matchings to accumulated weights in networks. Addressing the first impedanc

Re: [FRIAM] what complexity science says ...

To continue my howling in the wilderness, what the *intrepid follower of links* would find from the lecture on Meyer's[φ] wavelets is that wavelet transforms offer up much better fidelity than Fourier's, with fewer artifacts, better data compression, and from fewer resources. Why wouldn't nature pr

[FRIAM] Santa Fe County Covid decline

For those following along on https://cvprovider.nmhealth.org/public-dashboard.html, note that we may be out soon, vaccine or not. date, total cases 2021-02-06 => 9291 2021-02-07 => 9313 2021-02-08 => 9325 2021-02-09 => 9332 -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -

Re: [FRIAM] PM-2017-MethodologicalBehaviorismCausalChainsandCausalForks(1).pdf

Nick, I would say, yes. Frank's point is that if I have a causal chain of the form A -> B -> C, where the arrow is strict causation, then B screens (or filters, or blocks) knowledge about A at C. EricS' point is that (given cartesian closedness[Ӕ]), there is a relationship that allows one to trans

Re: [FRIAM] PM-2017-MethodologicalBehaviorismCausalChainsandCausalForks(1).pdf

Ha! I should probably go to lunch too. What is funny is that I would almost argue the opposite. The commutativity and transitivity almost seem to evoke parallelism to me. While on a short walk, I started to wonder whether or not (given a chain A->B->C), we could equally say that A screens B at C (r

Re: [FRIAM] PM-2017-MethodologicalBehaviorismCausalChainsandCausalForks(1).pdf

I guess, thinking a little bit more about it, if we consider the case to be non-cartesian closed but rather symmetric monoidal (as in the material category outlined in the post above), then we are granted a linear logic interpretation (bounded resources, etc...). -- Sent from: http://friam.47136

Re: [FRIAM] PM-2017-MethodologicalBehaviorismCausalChainsandCausalForks(1).pdf

Ha! just posted on that point! -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.co

Re: [FRIAM] PM-2017-MethodologicalBehaviorismCausalChainsandCausalForks(1).pdf

Nick, I likely do not understand. Though my original post did begin with: "Nick, I would say, yes." Can you say more about the relationship that you wish to discuss? -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complex

Re: [FRIAM] exploiting the uncanny valley...

Gillian, I am pretty impressed with the progress Blizzard has made with WoW. While I have never played it myself[!], a handful of my closest friends meet to play twice a week. Thankfully, one of them being a pod mate, and so I get to drink beers with them and talk shit while they fail to dungeon cr

Re: [FRIAM] PM-2017-MethodologicalBehaviorismCausalChainsandCausalForks(1).pdf

""" The notion of Screening Off comes from the act of “marking” a subset of the coins, to get at the sense in which their states may stand between the future states of some other focal coins you may wish to discuss, and the universe of other coins whose states you want to know if you can ignore. B

Re: [FRIAM] PM-2017-MethodologicalBehaviorismCausalChainsandCausalForks(1).pdf

Perhaps of further use(fulness/lessness) is a cartesian product interpretation of screening-off in the V-Y model[&]. If we consider each stage to be a set of *observations* and functions between them as relating *evidence*, we can interpret *cause* as the epimorphisms, those functions that are righ

Re: [FRIAM] PM-2017-MethodologicalBehaviorismCausalChainsandCausalForks(1).pdf

two brief addenda: 1) I am thinking of the product as being 'at least a product'. 2) Perhaps a further connection to symmetric monoidal categories exists by thinking of all proximate links as tensored products and all distal links as quotiented products. idk. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2

Re: [FRIAM] PM-2017-MethodologicalBehaviorismCausalChainsandCausalForks(1).pdf

Yes, I would like that. Perhaps, at Saveur over coffee :) -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailma

[FRIAM] A public letter to Nick, cc: any that write here

Nick, Is there a technical word for an essay one writes in preparation for another essay? I have been struggling over the last several weeks to write two essays, one preparatory on Euclid's second proposition (choices and misdirections) and the other on Chris Marker's *Le Jetee*. The role of Eucli

Re: [FRIAM] A public letter to Nick, cc: any that write here

I appreciate and am interested in *stylistic exploration* of this medium. This is in part what makes an Exquisite Corpse so exquisite. For example, I appreciate that public lectures need not be an individual yammering at a podium, that it may instead appear as a panel discussion, interview, or any

Re: [FRIAM] A public letter to Nick, cc: any that write here

Glen, I love this analogy. As a kid, we had a version of "hack ball" in almost anything we did. To some extent, it was exactly the loosely defined and chaotic character of the play that shouldered the work of seduction. Children intuitively know that *hack ball* between others can be *play* for the

Re: [FRIAM] A public letter to Nick, cc: any that write here

/Most people don’t know that Frank Sinatra has an arrest record and a mugshot to match. The reason for his arrest may be even more surprising. The official charge? Seduction.

Re: [FRIAM] neural/symbolic integration workshop

I missed the first day, and while so far the second hasn't met my expectations, it was cool to catch Yang-Chen's presentation on *Ontological Pathfinding*[1, 2]. StephenG, assuming you are out there, I am curious about your thoughts. How might your expansions on bidirectional path-tracing apply? [

Re: [FRIAM] Nothing to do with nick, do we have a formula

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Re: [FRIAM] infrastructure and faux-diversity

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Re: [FRIAM] neural/symbolic integration workshop

Yes! I think my intuition is in a similar direction, or at least I gather so from what I understand you to be saying. The whole project of *ontological pathfinding* seems to be one of identifying optimal networks of formal expressions over data sets of some *knowledge* type. I feel like I can imagi

Re: [FRIAM] PM-2017-MethodologicalBehaviorismCausalChainsandCausalForks(1).pdf

In an attempt to ground my above thoughts, and respond to your apprehension, I found these two John Baez articles offering some explanation for why one might want to use category theory to guide Bayesian network calculations. Additionally, I was pleased to see that he makes explicit the connection

Re: [FRIAM] infrastructure and faux-diversity

"I doubt that Perry learned much of anything about DOE during his tenure." Much less anything about ODEs, mesh refinement methods for finite element computations, or anything else that might actually be useful for addressing such a problem. When I was living in Texas he seemed mostly concerned wit

Re: [FRIAM] metaphor

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Re: [FRIAM] Watch Mars landing this afternoon

Speaking of efficiency, to what extent is it fair to consider academia an efficient market of ideas? To the degree that it is, would this justify conceptual tourism? -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity

Re: [FRIAM] market?

is missing a semicolon (a major clue was the error message "In function ‘Statement’: ...") and so is... https://stackoverflow.com/questions/12779914/error-expected-asm-or-attribute-before-token -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .

Re: [FRIAM] market?

perhaps, the wrong exchange. Better might be: https://space.stackexchange.com/questions/20316/challenger-disaster-how-full-was-the-external-tank-at-the-time-of-destruction -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Comp

Re: [FRIAM] academia as a market of ideas

So, yeah, I think I agree with Glen that there is something amiss about claiming a *market of ideas*, but I am unconvinced that the notion misses completely. There is something like *instantaneous arbitrage* that happens across the space of ideas, a Laplacian that acts across disciplines, smoothing

Re: [FRIAM] academia as a market of ideas

I believe we are in agreement here, though I did try to address this point by claiming: "Instead, imagining that ideas once found are *free to all* and that the behavior with regards *low hanging fruit* is the interesting part of the analogy..." -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/

Re: [FRIAM] academia as a market of ideas

"there must be some asymmetry in valuation to *drive the engine*." Perhaps, but must such a valuation be scalar-valued, orderable, or even comparable? The exchange of things seems sorting-algorithm-like but overall more shuffling-algorithm-like. For all of our differences, placing all of our goods

Re: [FRIAM] more meat vs logic fodder

I very much appreciate the SMMRY. The time savings it offers is pretty amazing. What would need to be done to write a variant of SMMRY to target evocative statements like: "Cells flow like honey to take up their positions in the future body. Sheets of cells fold origami-style, building a heart, a

Re: [FRIAM] academia as a market of ideas

"There was once a woman in El Dorado..." I appreciate that you are introducing *the particular* into the discussion, exactly those things which escape symmetry. Additionally, she introduces *value* by means that escape direct valuation or rather is prior to evaluation. There is something about ref

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