Re: [FRIAM] Curmudgeons Unite!

Thank you. Would you please restate what 'type of exploitation' we saw in 2016? I will think about it this week and hopefully find time to address it, my Sunday is already pretty backed up. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. .

Re: [FRIAM] words for Nick (political-words focused)

For most of my life, my father has lived two blocks from Lake Erie, and like any Great Lakes raised rust-belter, I was raised with a healthy fear of large bodies of water (and the alien lifeforms beneath the surface). This fear was only exacerbated when at the age of 3 or 4 my mother and stepfather

[FRIAM] Rio En Medio & Caja del Rio Fires

Since, you know, there are Simtablers here, what should I know about the possibility of evacuations in Santa Fe in anything? -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mt

Re: [FRIAM] words for Nick (political-words focused)

...but son of a gun, you'll have big fun on the rio... My buddy, JP, has a big crawfish boil every year down in La Cienega. I'm pretty sure they fly the crawfish in though. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Co

Re: [FRIAM] what is Gertrude thinking?

Do you believe him? -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives:

Re: [FRIAM] what is Gertrude thinking?

well said. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives: http://f

Re: [FRIAM] Curmudgeons Unite!

Glen, I suppose it isn't really fapping if one shows good brinkmanship :) The troubles our political institutions met during the 2016 election, via weaponized social media technologies, no doubt point to a serious vulnerability in our democratic process, and no do

Re: [FRIAM] The last bookstore

Yeah, the technical bookstore on Burnside was really great. It was where I spent my last three hours living in Portland (2007) reading Hatcher's 'Algebraic Topology'. Last I was in Oregon (2014), I was sad to see it gone, but then someone directed me that the technical books all moved to the main b

Re: [FRIAM] The Strange Numbers That Birthed Modern Algebra

Such a wonderful and uniquely Reuben thing to do. I loved to see his delight in humanity and mathematics. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/vir

Re: [FRIAM] Today's Sermon:: a minor awokening

"Dear America, stay wasted. Throw your credit cards in the air. Did you really think, we were waiting for the walls to come tumbling down?" - company: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4g2o4kYxnE&ab_channel=Company-Topic "I'm trying to drink away the part of the day that I cannot sleep away" - mode

Re: [FRIAM] Today's Sermon:: a minor awokening

"Alcohol is stealing my soul, it's drowning my heart, swallowing me whole..." - The Specs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LTe0iKKvTs&ab_channel=CharlestonSubterrain -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexit

[FRIAM] maximally-stateful versus purely-functional: some thoughts on diffusion-limited aggregration

RogerF, What I am calling *maximally-stateful* is a limiting notion opposed to that of *purely functional*. Effectively, a *maximally stateful* process is one whose side-effects dominate the computation, with little else analytically calculable. At present, I am thinking of things like clouds, cel

Re: [FRIAM] Help for Merle Lefkoff

I know a small handful of people that may fit. Would you say more about the position? -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscri

Re: [FRIAM] Getting You Libertarians' Goats

My partner, Sarah, remarked that the abstract is remarkable in that it seems parallel (for her) to how she experiences our world today. The book is on my reading list. Thank you. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Appli

Re: [FRIAM] election odds

wonderful! I'd place a small bet on Kanye. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/fria

[FRIAM] truths as model correspondences and ground truths

Joscha Bach muses on the Lex Fridman podcast: "For something to exist, it probably needs to be implementable. The only thing that can be implemented is finite automata and so maybe the all of existence is a superposition of finite automata, and we are in some region of the fractal that has the prop

Re: [FRIAM] truths as model correspondences and ground truths

On the Dalai Lama: "...he identifies as a form of government. So basically the Dalai Lama gets reborn, not because he's confused but because he is not identifying as a human being. He runs on a human being. He is basically a governmental software that is instantiated in every new generation. So his

Re: [FRIAM] truths as model correspondences and ground truths

"I think of the concepts as the address space for our behavior programs, and the behavior programs allow us to recognize objects and interact with them, also mental objects." I am glad you are also enjoying this! -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. ..

Re: [FRIAM] truths as model correspondences and ground truths

last one for now: "If you look for the meaning of life, you look at what a cell is. The life is the cell... It's this self-organizing thing that can participate in evolution. In order to make it work it's a molecular machine. It needs a self-replicator, an entropy extractor, and a Turing machine.

Re: [FRIAM] hot time in town tonight

"It's a small change for a person used to writing functional programs to get in the habit of using linear types." A small change in habit, but possibly a big change in underlying logic. I don't have much experience with linear types, but I can see the switch from closed cartesian categories to clo

Re: [FRIAM] hot time in town tonight

Thanks! I will check these out. Intuitively, I can imagine how working with monoidal categories could bring software closer to physics. Much of the QFT and QM work that has crossed my desk recently seems to be developed in that frame. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -.

Re: [FRIAM] hot time in town tonight

I think that I agree with you, and add that "particularity not mattering" in a model is a modding-out of the thing modeled. I can imagine chains of quotients describing coarser and coarser models, agents to ODEs to networks of weighted edges, say. Comparisons, then of things modeled inducing compar

Re: [FRIAM] hot time in town tonight

Mmm. I very much relate to your process. To add to the list: 1. A strenuous mountain hike followed immediately by meditation and then contemplation. 2. Organizing my thoughts into words and posting them to this list. Generally engaging those whose thoughts and modes of thinking I cherish. 3. Mem

Re: [FRIAM] God in Science and Religion (was Re: why some people hate cops)

"I've been believing in nothing since I was born, it never was a question." - Polly Jean Harvey In my experience, adding God to a conversation has done very little to move things forward and has often left many dead where they stood. Surprisingly, while both witnessing police violence against indi

Re: [FRIAM] God in Science and Religion (was Re: why some people hate cops)

Assuming that there is not a peaceful transition, which organizations do you believe will back the coup: Pentagon*, GOP, EPA, SCOTUS, USPS? I hope that speculating about the loyalties of institutions may help the analysis, and fundamentally I hope that FriAM is a group of thinkers before that of be

Re: [FRIAM] God in Science and Religion (was Re: why some people hate cops)

Thank you for your thoughts. The organizations mentioned in my earlier thread were mostly thought up off-the-cuff because each evoked something for me at the moment, humorous or otherwise. I feel disappointed that the pentagon would use the 1 Billion dollars, earmarked for COVID relief, as they did

Re: [FRIAM] God in Science and Religion (was Re: why some people hate cops)

Thank you, again. Somehow this post put my mind at ease, for now. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.co

Re: [FRIAM] ideas are lies

Nick, Thanks for this interview. If nothing else, she sounds like a competent person who appears to understand the job. In 2020, I am not sure I could expect more. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity

Re: [FRIAM] Shorthands for Brain-stuff

"It can’t be necessary to adopt what amounts to a religion in order to function with one another." Maybe not a religion, but perhaps to recognize/engage one's beliefs relative to another's beliefs? "In many cases, one would have to know the complete history of a person--from his childhood family

Re: [FRIAM] Shorthands for Brain-stuff

This post is wonderful, so I apologize ahead of time for the pedantry. Rodney King was a victim of a crime. You likely mean O.J. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12

Re: [FRIAM] COVID-19 at the White House - Contact Tracking - Peter James Walker | Tableau Public

Some diseases have criminal exposure laws, HIV for instance: https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/policies/law/states/exposure.html It seems that there should be more of a stink about the ethics of knowingly exposing individuals, especially essential workers, to Covid-19. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n

Re: [FRIAM] Trump as a victim

"Trump seems to have nothing in his portfolio but a string of ghastly public failures where *he* slips out from under the crumbling building just in time to go on to slap a fat T on another one and start dismantling it from the foundation up like a hungry termite." Animals are an approximate solut

Re: [FRIAM] Trump as a victim

Perhaps, to further flip this on its head, consider Trump's role on "The Apprentice". Here we find a man conditioned to play the role of a top executive on television. Believing that this means he is capable of competently navigating the top executive role for our nation is like selecting your doct

Re: [FRIAM] Trump as a victim

I think I agree about the AMA deserving credit for the very good work they perform. They train very good doctors. Since in life it appears we only get to perform "Quality Assurance" in production, I am dismayed to see that we have uncovered more than a few bugs in our democratic process recently. I

Re: [FRIAM] labels

From the article. "Philosophers have always been divided about the roles of logic (formal reasoning) and, by extension, of mathematics. There have been empiricists who regard reasoning as just a tool to help organize the knowledge that derives from our senses. And there have been rationalists who

Re: [FRIAM] labels

"Peirce fuzzed the distinction between the empirical and the logical." As far as I am concerned, systems of logic are wild and diverse. On FRIAM, we often run explicitly into these distinctions (linear types, quantum toposes) as well as implicitly (constructivist scoping and free will). A surprisi

[FRIAM] legendary black dragon

So, it is Thursday and that means that I am playing D&D with friends. The party is in Tokyo, circa 1973, battling a corrupted black dragon named Chicxulub[†], the head of the Yakuza[☠]. Ricky, the party's rogue, manages a sneak-attack for 63 damage with necrotic damage. Chicxulub succeeds in a dc 1

Re: [FRIAM] legendary black dragon

Ha! pretty much. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives: ht

Re: [FRIAM] labels

It's funny that you mention "not living in the city". Sarah pointed out this morning that with the exoduses from major metropolitan centers like Los Angeles, Chicago, and New York City, voter distribution is likely to be affected in a way not seen in perhaps a very long time. -- Sent from: http:

[FRIAM] Political compass teest

I just took the political compass test and surprise surprise, I am a left-libertarian. Take the test here if you are interested: https://www.politicalcompass.org/test -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.

[FRIAM] Derivatives of Turing Machines

Recently, there was some discussion of linear logic that sent me down a hole where I found this lecture: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IW4LjjAWrO4&ab_channel=DanielMurfet I am really enjoying it. What is the derivative of a Turing machine? -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - .

Re: [FRIAM] 8^D

"Ghat reminds me that V've lost my caesar code plugin! V'll have to rewrite it." -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe ht

Re: [FRIAM] now it's personal

Ha, I know the feeling. I recently ordered the book "The Immortality Key: The Secret History of the Religion with No Name" by Brian Muraresku. On a recent Joe Rogan podcast, Brian soberly discusses the mysteries, Eleusis, and the diaspora of those initiation rites into the western world. He relies

Re: [FRIAM] now it's personal

For those without 3 hours and want the 5 minute CNN version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkL2DLBM1j0&ab_channel=MatthewChapman -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-

Re: [FRIAM] now it's personal

I don't know about Joey Six, Christians, or what to do about anything. Brian's rhetorical form is pleasant to listen to and the content is clearly well researched. He offers a window into an interesting and controversial subject in the history of the west. Like when listening to "curator's corner",

Re: [FRIAM] now it's personal

"But I suppose, like the targetless model, the narrative itself can be the object of study even if the only substance is the narrative itself" Careful, this kind of thinking maybe a gateway to postmodernism >8^D Rogan does a fairly good job of finding diverse voices, even when he cannot embody th

Re: [FRIAM] now it's personal

ah, I should have guessed :) My copy should be here tomorrow or the next. Recovering the initiation rites of our ancestors is bound to be revealing. It is a program that I have hopes will pick up steam in the coming years. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -..

Re: [FRIAM] now it's personal

*modernist trigger warning* Of those modernists, it was ironically the structuralists (IMO) that opened this door that cannot be closed. Arguably, postmodernism (in particular Derrida) became a scapegoat for what Godel had already established 30 years earlier. The struggle mirrors only too well th

Re: [FRIAM] now it's personal

Hmm, back down the comonad development path for me, where CA, linear logic, convolutions, and modal possibility seem to find their meet. However now, with the additional sheaf-theoretic motivation that the *widths* of trajectories vary like dimension along fibers. -- Sent from: http://friam.4713

Re: [FRIAM] now it's personal

*across fibers -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives: http

Re: [FRIAM] now it's personal

Yeah, now if we can pull JohnK away from doing real mathematics long enough write about Isbell Duality[!], then we will have a serious party :) [!] https://ncatlab.org/nlab/show/Isbell+duality#related_concepts -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ..

Re: [FRIAM] now it's personal

"What's the function associated with it? Words like derivative, differential, directional derivative, etc. mean something to me." Let me attempt a brief and likely rough answer. Terms from lambda calculus correspond to algorithms. There is a model of lambda calculus (as-well-as full linear logic)

Re: [FRIAM] Derivatives of Turing Machines

A very brief search recovered this likely connection between surreal numbers and linear logic via combinatorial games and compact closed categories, respectively: http://pages.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~gscruttw/publications/CGC.pdf To contribute to your bullet points, I also wonder about an interpretation

Re: [FRIAM] labels

Ha, maybe, but even Athens fell to Sparta. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/fria

[FRIAM] Dennett on agency

... and why tornados fail to have it. A key feature appears to be that agents have a history that makes a difference, can exploit information the way a thermostat can. Electrons or molecular motors, for instance, don't pick up scratches or scars. Sean Carroll adds that agents participate in the arr

[FRIAM] So you thought...

"So you thought that Sierpinski space was just this loser space, it's just there for counterexamples. No." ~2:30 I am loving the Daniel Murfet lectures on mathematics. This one is on Function spaces: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLlPa_NdcBg&ab_channel=DanielMurfet -- Sent from: http://friam.

Re: [FRIAM] Getting You Libertarians' Goats

Nick, Let's say I have a language designed to work with sticks, where for instance, it makes sense to name certain relations *Triangle*. Additionally, let's assume that the language is detailed enough to include less obvious relations such as those which relate sticks to trees to soil and water. W

Re: [FRIAM] Getting You Libertarians' Goats

dual fields, Nick, dual fields. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.c

Re: [FRIAM] Getting You Libertarians' Goats

Nick, I could probably express my thoughts in *steam governor* talk, but since this week KenP has me thinking about RNA, I will try this other tack. Extensionally, ribosomes can be identified as functions taking RNA and returning useful proteins for an organism. Due to the constrained nature of th

Re: [FRIAM] high turnout and tight races?

Yeah, I empathize with your sentiments. Oh to see a good band, the only notion of a church that has ever made any sense to me and where Communion is served a pint at a time. Even though my left-leaning friends guarantee that my vote has been thrown away and I feel just as disenfranchised wrt polit

[FRIAM] Tuomas Sandholm on heads up, no limit Texas hold'em

There was some discussion of Texas hold'em on vFriam recently, and while I observed some participants visibly yawn, here is an interview with CMU's Tuomas Sandholm on recent successes with AI, modeling beliefs, and Nash equilibrium in Texas hold'em. Trigger Warning: This thread may devolve into vir

Re: [FRIAM] high turnout and tight races?

Yeah, I voted some weeks ago. It was a little weird because I showed up at the county clerk's office on a Sunday and there was a sketchy guy there acting as if he was there to drop off his own ballot. He wasn't, he was just watching me (it seemed) to make sure I put my ballot in the box. Nothing ab

Re: [FRIAM] Getting You Libertarians' Goats

Is it really as bad as all of that? I like your choice of Darboux, rather than Euler or Gauss, because his name quickly points me in a particular direction. My experience is that familiarity with the tastes of individual mathematicians contributes to navigating that vast sea, mercifully suggesting

Re: [FRIAM] Getting You Libertarians' Goats

Wow. I just checked my records and it was already 3 years ago that we started that Baez book. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un

Re: [FRIAM] Curmudgeons Unite!

Included is a link to the "Undivided Attention" podcast where the guest is Taiwan's Digital minister. She discusses the progress and successes that Taiwan has made in producing *digital democracy* software, implementing *radically open transparency* at the government level, and building search engi

Re: [FRIAM] A/R theory

This work does seem to be relevant, up to 𝜀-equivalence, to many of the fibers in recent threads :) As the authors point out, the question of deciding which diagrams 𝜀-commute is the business of experimental science à la EricC's commentary on the history of chemistry. Also, the ideas expressed in t

Re: [FRIAM] A/R theory

Unless I am somehow forgetting some clever interpretation, I was wrong about the transitivity. Let me try to reason from an example: an experimenter defines a litany of tests for deciding how well a collection of things can be relied upon when treated as computational objects. For instance, an aud

Re: [FRIAM] Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez ends truce by warning ‘incompetent’ Democratic party

I would have much prefered her as the new president-elect. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailm

Re: [FRIAM] How soon until AI takes over polling?

My flippant first approximation answer is: once there are fewer boomers. While the national polls likely used no AI anywhere in their pipeline, I suspect that any organization with *real money* on the line designed predictive models making heavy use of AI and not bothering with telephones for the d

Re: [FRIAM] Biden beats Trump

"bitch, you knew I was a snake" - the little prince by way of natural born killers. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe

Re: [FRIAM] Biden beats Trump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuHK8iROgJ0&ab_channel=emilbraun -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com

Re: [FRIAM] Biden beats Trump

I feel like this came up in vFriam recently when DJT caught the virus. I mentioned having empathy then and that empathy was rooted in knowing what it is like to be sick. I am not sure empathy requires wanting something for another, wanting them to be well for instance. To some extent, this seems li

Re: [FRIAM] this seems like good news

dang, if only he was joining the Lawvere team. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/

[FRIAM] covid-19 risk prediction app

I haven't looked deeply into it, but perhaps of some interest: https://news.yale.edu/2020/06/05/yale-app-hunala-aims-be-waze-coronavirus -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays

Re: [FRIAM] SFe not doing so well

It would be good to see proactive messaging as well. Boost your immune system, vitamin D appears to help, exercise regularly... Additionally, some amount of predictive detail so that we are not left waiting around the proverbial hospital door. Spanish Flu lasted for two years, we expect about the s

[FRIAM] Inexhaustible Lasers with Boris Johnson

Will increased spending on 'defense' be the new pandemic in 2021? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9O2WMrQ6ow&ab_channel=GuardianNews -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9

Re: [FRIAM] SFe not doing so well

Not putting out the basics ought to be criminal. There will be plenty more brick 'n mortar buildings for big boxes to knock down and smaller corporates to move into. It occurs to me that for the cold and calculating, one-three million dead does little to impact the future of business. Enough new co

Re: [FRIAM] New ways of understanding the world

It is a little strange to read "possessed a theory" from Nick because he staunchly avoids language like "has consciousness". That said, I read him here as saying that discovery of the self is a corollary to discovery of the world. From my own perspective, theories are derived from (founded upon?) d

Re: [FRIAM] 5 agencies compromised

Dependence on *left pad* was an absurd convenience. Software *can* be sustainable.Still, watch them semicolons :) -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/- . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity

Re: [FRIAM] Plaing Go With Darwin

The famous games between Shusai and Kitani were later fictionalized by Kawabata in his classic work *The Master of Go*. The style of the prose and the attention to necessary detail draw upon Kawabata's masterful ability as a journalist. He delicately reports on Shusai's corrupt and petty nature, hi

Re: [FRIAM] if by 'populism' he meant ...

In discussions where Mussolini, Hitler, Stalin, or Lenin is mentioned I am reminded that Franco stayed in power in Spain well into the 1970s. Further, it wasn't by upheaval or collapse that he left "office". Instead, as Wikipedia has it, "By 1973 Franco had surrendered the function of prime ministe

Re: [FRIAM] Edmund Clarke Pioneered Methods For Detecting Software, Hardware Errors - News - Carnegie Mellon University

Ha, those are the names of my brothers too! -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/fri

Re: [FRIAM] Discovery of 'cryptic species' shows Earth is even more biologically diverse | Wildlife | The Guardian

*Kind of like Paul Erdos, the 4 billion year old man.* Paul Erdos C.D. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/- . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12

Re: [FRIAM] Discovery of 'cryptic species' shows Earth is even more biologically diverse | Wildlife | The Guardian

*Kind of like Paul Erdos, the 4 billion year old man.* Paul Erdos C.D. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/- . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12

Re: [FRIAM] where are the "patriot hackers"?

Falun Gong is an interesting case. Across from the University of Texas at Austin was one of my all-time favorite vegetarian restaurants, Veggie Heaven. The owners of VH were Falun Dafa practitioners from China. Images about the restaurant portrayed meditators floating above lotuses with auras of li

Re: [FRIAM] 5 agencies compromised

Marcus' description reminds me of stalk formation in slime moulds (*wink* to Nick). It is the image of individuals motivated to fashion themselves into a structural component, one that acts as an administrative *ice-nine*, management as *grey goo*. Further, he imagines these *altruists* (those will

[FRIAM] Bourbaki and other truly beautiful things

Occasionally, I have conversations with mathematicians who take the name Bourbaki in vain, insinuating that the work of this great *mathematician* had led the development of 20th-century mathematics astray. I wish to take a minute here to appreciate the works of Weil, Grothendieck, Borel, Eilenberg

Re: [FRIAM] Applied Category Theory 2021 — Adjoint School – Azimuth

cool. This topic looks particularly good: Topic: Extensions of coalgebraic dynamic logic Mentors: Helle Hvid Hansen and Clemens Kupke Description: Coalgebra is a branch of category theory in which different types of state-based systems are studied in a uniform framework, parametric in an endofunc

Re: [FRIAM] truth, reality, & narrative

FWIW, I have always felt that math study requires a tremendous amount of autosuggestion. Ok, so this proposition claims to be a theorem. Now, why is it true? -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group l

Re: [FRIAM] truth, reality, & narrative

To be clear, I was commenting on what math study feels like. The worst of it being when I do not actually follow a proof (due to laziness, ill-preparedness, or any other lack of ability) and somehow come to rely on the theorem as fact. I suppose this is both unavoidable and an illustration of my ow

Re: [FRIAM] Tangled up in our own 2nd Amendment? Bleak Lives Manner?

Dear 2021, Please, let us please retire the word "unprecedented". Lovingly yours, Jon -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subs

[FRIAM] a limit to verificationist inquiry

At the end of vFriam last week, I prompted a discussion about a possible relationship between *zero-knowledge protocols* (zkp) and a limit to scientific truth interpreted as a strict verificationist theory[1]. Neal Koblitz gives an accessible explication of a zkp 3-colorability proof[2], which I at

Re: [FRIAM] The Tyranny of Merit

Nick did have a lovely time, I saw it. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_re

[FRIAM] an interesting podcast on belief and experience

Lex Fridman interviews UNC's Diana Walsh Pasulka on belief and experience and Hendrix and ... A couple of things caught my ear, in particular, that she seems to like Nick's frame that first we have experiences and only then can we label them as mythic, or whatever. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

Re: [FRIAM] yay!

Putting aside for a moment the outpouring of news content, which at the moment, is pressing the discussion of whether or not angry mobs are possible without social media (seemingly ignoring much of history), I might agree that data for *the relevance of ethics* are starting to flood in like Pennsyl

Re: [FRIAM] Curators Assess Damage to Capitol Artworks in Wake of Pro-Trump Mob

It's true. Often I blame industry for thinking that music (and movies, etc...) was something to be owned rather than the product of culture and therefore part of our cultural legacy and endowment. I cannot help but feel that this, as well as the boring and homogenous nature of the media cycle, was

Re: [FRIAM] yay!

Cool. What can you tell me about it? -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redf

Re: [FRIAM] Pittsburgh and Ethics (was yay!)

Hmm, we should probably start a different thread here as we are beginning to bend Glen's. While I believe that people are out there thinking about ethics, I am unsure where to even begin wrt a framework. It seems reasonable to be doubtful of an academic program as many historical programs that soug

Re: [FRIAM] an interesting podcast on belief and experience

Man, it gets pretty weird about an hour in, though not really weird good. Now I keep wondering whether she is putting Lex on, or whether she was brainwashed using comic books from the late 90s, or who knows. While I retract most of this recommendation for our general Friam audience, there were a co

Re: [FRIAM] Poetry Slams vs biologic Percean Logic Machine Emulator

Is it the Right showing their *true nature* or is it a media-suckled *vino veritas*? I also gather that there isn't much more than power dynamics at play (if I read you correctly in saying, "The only thing to do is to hold on to power and to arrange the government to be as robust as possible...").

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