Re: [FRIAM] (no subject)

EricS, I am sorry to say that with the disruption of the nabble Friam server, and with my head buried in work, I managed to miss your response to my queries about your approach to Fisher's Theorem. Thankfully, RogerF brought your response to my attention. In the last few months since we engaged th

Re: [FRIAM] (no subject)

(reposted for readability) EricS, I am sorry to say that with the disruption of the nabble Friam server, and with my head buried in work, I managed to miss your response to my queries about your approach to Fisher's Theorem. Thankfully, RogerF brought your response to my attention. In the last fe

Re: [FRIAM] (no subject)

Glen, Thank you for looking into it. Yes, that is the publication. Also, thank you for posting "The post-truth prophets"[0]. Sean Illing manages to get at the heart of what I find myself defending regarding postmodernism[1]. You may remember that some months ago, I was on a "Bergson through the ey

Re: [FRIAM] MM implies (*)

In another thread, EricS mentions the book "Topology through inquiry" by Michael Starbird. I had Dr. Starbird for honors discrete mathematics, which was one of those Moore-method styled classes and my first decent introduction to writing proofs. What was funny is that it was my favorite class at UT

Re: [FRIAM] shopping for a new psychiatrist

Gil, Fuck. "fucking bag of dicks" is one of my favorite phrases. Thanks for it. Cheers, Jon - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/fr

Re: [FRIAM] vax v unvax

"S ... our house cleaner is anti-vax. My friends tell me we should fire her. I've resisted confronting her over it." Since you are asking for an opinion, I believe that abstaining from her service because you feel that your household is at risk directly or at risk of becoming a vector for the

[FRIAM] Weighted Ensemble

I am presently working on learning weighted ensemble sampling techniques and was curious if any here have worked with them before. The technique seems promising and has enjoyed quite a bit of success (even above MCMC

Re: [FRIAM] Weighted Ensemble

Glen, Yes, that is the kind of weighted ensemble I am thinking about. I see the algorithm as weighing the novel trajectories more heavily in the early stages of a search, but ultimately giving the *correct* stationary distribution in the limit. My list was a combination of references, dreams, and

Re: [FRIAM] Weighted Ensemble

Ah, ok, so I see one possible source of confusion for those that are thinking Scikit-learn or other standard ML packages. I don't believe that *weighted ensemble*[0] and *ensemble averaging*[1] are the same. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rare_event_sampling [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/En

Re: [FRIAM] Liberal dilemmas

EricC, What comic do you keep referencing? It may have been scrubbed by redfish.com . - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish

Re: [FRIAM] Liberal dilemmas

Thank you, Glen and Frank. Seeing the image, and whether authoritarian or not, I couldn't help but relate. There have probably (right or wrong) been a number of times in the last month where the very same narrative ran through my mind while in line for coffee or groceries or whatever. I appreciate

Re: [FRIAM] Liberal dilemmas

"Any man can be Babylon, in times like these." - Burning Spear - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://

Re: [FRIAM] Liberal dilemmas

Now that Afghanistan is prepped to be the Democratic Republic of Congo 2.0 (this time lithium rather than coltan), I suspect that the world is poised for a whole new liberal dilemma: 1. Continue to support an oil industry largely responsible for rapid climate collapse. 2. Switch to supporting a bat

[FRIAM] Can empirical discoveries be mathematical?

Beginning with Oxford, *empirical*: based on, concerned with, or verifiable by observation or experience rather than theory or pure logic. Where then Nick goes on to argue, perhaps, that *experience of logic* is *experience* and so "experience *rather than* theory or pure logic" is meaningless.

[FRIAM] Can empirical discoveries be mathematical?

Nick writes: """ I think I am starting to know the answer just by being badgered by you guys. I can from relativity theory predict that during a solar eclipse a distant star will pop out from behind the sun at T= =/- sec. I can observe empirically that, indeed, the star popped out with

[FRIAM] What are you reading?

"Numerical Methods Using Matlab"; Mathews, Fink Mostly, the section on Pade Approximations "Representations of Compact Lie Groups"; Brocker, tom Dieck Thanks to EricS's recent post "Goodnight Moon"; Margaret Wise Brown "Nest"; Jorey Hurley Thanks to Tycho "The Numerical Solution of Systems of Po

Re: [FRIAM] gen'fur

Speaking of future abortions, I am super happy right now. My pop finally visited me! @Nick Thompson If only you two could meet. - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http:

Re: [FRIAM] Calling Bullshit

Waa! Cry me a river A.I. lovers. Jury nullification is fine. - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://fr

Re: [FRIAM] Calling Bullshit

Sorry, why must I mean all of that? - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ a

Re: [FRIAM] Calling Bullshit

Ah, but isn't a steelman one that aims to understand an argument well enough to put it in its best possible light? I'd say it was an off balance attempt at a strawman. - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 b

Re: [FRIAM] Calling Bullshit

I'm sure someone might know. Should we wait to see? - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic

[FRIAM] Random Evolutions

Some on this forum were friends with Reuben. I spent a chunk of the afternoon reading some of his papers on random evolutions, a probabilistic technique for solving partial differential equations. There appear to be a number of interesting possibilities for connecting this work to the diffusion-lik

Re: [FRIAM] the cancellation arc

"The silly little details of how unfairly the mob has treated you don't matter. Get over it. Life sucks. Then you die." Yes, please, but with mobs at all scales, all the way down! - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p

Re: [FRIAM] Random Evolutions

Reuben and Richard's article is wonderful and has given me a new appreciation for capacitory potential (a concept that can often appear dry). Walking back from Bosque brewery, hallucinations flood my mind of Tesla coils and charge distributed harmonically from a boundary here to an ineffable bounda

Re: [FRIAM] the cancellation arc

""" Were M absolutely, perfectly faithful to W, there would be no epiphenomena in M. I.e. epiphenomena do not exist... """ I read Glen as saying that the collection of all comprehensions forms a space equipped with a meaningful notion of distance, and that if one were to treat the space analytical

[FRIAM] Mmm...my copy of...

"Partial Differential Equations and Related Topics" just arrived via Amazon. Reuben has two articles: 0. The Method of Transmutations 1. Stochastic Solutions of Hyperbolic Equations New Orleans, LA, USA, May of 1974. It must have been another time. The opening article in the collection: Nonline

Re: [FRIAM] torn

""" When I am king You will be first against the wall With your opinion Which is of no consequence at all """ *— Thom Yorke* .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/s

Re: [FRIAM] Can a robot have a soul?

"...*then* we can falsify my claim that they don't validate against the real world." i.e., that the concept of epiphenomena is itself an epiphenomenon. .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC

Re: [FRIAM] Can a robot have a soul?

These discussions often remind me of Blegvad's Leviathan: http://www.leviathan.co.uk/science/science01.html .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://r

Re: [FRIAM] Great Circle

"Not to change the subject but..." Oh, there's no change of subject at all (relative to the discussion of Random Evolutions). It seems with your mentioning of geodesics that we are back talking about harmonic functions. SteveG, did you happen to read the Scientific American paper that RogerF and

Re: [FRIAM] Great Circle

"Is this related, at some level, to..." Oh yeah, like in classical geometric probability. Yeah, I wonder too. .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http:

Re: [FRIAM] hot streaks

For any feeling charitable, send checks to: Jon Zingale 620 1/2 Alto Street Santa Fe, New Mexico 87501 .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http

[FRIAM] A pretty cellular automata video

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Re: [FRIAM] A pretty cellular automata video

""" Very nice. Part of the trick is that when a cell dies in the 2D space (Game of Life), it fades to black rather than goes black immediately. """ Yeah, that is a very nice feature. I like that the "fade" is also a seemingly random fade through the RGB. It would be really cool to have a side scr

Re: [FRIAM] A pretty cellular automata video

"...but I won't waste anyone's bandwidth with my reflective rambling..." Wait, no, please, more reflective rambling. .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscri

Re: [FRIAM] A pretty cellular automata video

A few years ago, I became interested in building myself an AC frog. At the time I started looking into IBM's TrueNorth[0] chips, and more locally, Knowm's memristor[1] chips. The dream was/is to get a bunch of their possibly flawed chips at a bargain price and (à la Von Neumann's "reliable organism

Re: [FRIAM] Newborn Heart Rate

So, Nick, would you have me believe that a 'side' is something a die can have, but not the possibility of being on a side? .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/sub

Re: [FRIAM] Newborn Heart Rate

"Well, as usual, it’s a question of who get’s the words." If anybody wants me, I will be found in the "defund academia" picket line. .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualf

Re: [FRIAM] A pretty cellular automata video

"I wonder if a CA like this would look cooler on one of these?" I was tempted to roll my eyes, but then I thought, maybe it would be nice to have one of those. OTOH, I am not sure what it is I would be buying, like listening to vinyl recordings on YouTube or exploring the MET online. That said, I

Re: [FRIAM] A pretty cellular automata video

A few years ago, I was invited to speak on procedurally generated music at the Atlas Institute in Boulder. There I met Laura Devendorf[1]. Her work with looms and smart textiles is pretty rad[2]. It would be pretty wonderful to have a couch where the upholstery renders cellular automata. [1] https

Re: [FRIAM] Aborted project by Errol Morris for the year 2000

That video is pretty cool. Isaac Chuang seems unimaginably young in 2000. It was one of those moments for me when someone who appeared so much older than me at the time appears so much younger in hindsight. .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . FRIAM Applied Co

Re: [FRIAM] Aborted project by Errol Morris for the year 2000

"It almost seems cautionary. He still talks optimistically" I remember getting his book out of the CSU library when I was 20, about the time of this interview. I remember feeling hope that while others around me were so concerned with the boolean question of whether there would one day be such com

Re: [FRIAM] Aborted project by Errol Morris for the year 2000

"I saw Chuang in a recent panel discussion about QC, and..." Well said. My experiences and observations of the academic/professional researcher world corresponds pretty readily. What do you suppose people imagine when they imagine computers the size of atoms? Little boxy Rosey the robots? .-- .-

[FRIAM] Is Lightning Langevin?

Lightning traces in it's drunken way a geodesic along an energy landscape. The medium by which high potential difference couple is unimaginably arbitrary. No different than sampling from the most probable configurations at the surface of a vintage picture tube. .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. .

[FRIAM] convergence

A series and a rearrangement of the same: A) 1 - 1/2 +1/3 -1/4 + ... limiting its way to the natural log of 2 B) 1 + 1/3 - 1/2 +1/5 + 1/7 - 1/4 ... limiting its way to 3/2 times the natural log of 2 Let's call the object that exists in the limit of statistical practice the state-of-affairs. If t

[FRIAM] Schwill Rock?

Do the dwarves[1] count? The _Pandora Problem_ reared its ugly head again this afternoon. Bosque was jamming out to some classic Rick Rubin recorded awesomeness, when Spotify's automated DJ passed things off to Space Hog. Can some lurker with power solve this problem and soon? [1] https://www.you

Re: [FRIAM] Schwill Rock?

Thanks for asking, Frank. On Friday, Glen mentioned that he was attempting to train his music streaming service to identify *Schwill Rock*[0]. This is amidst the ongoing discussions we have, on the server, regarding the foundations of statistics[1], the use of AI in the legal system, and the recurr

Re: [FRIAM] Schwill Rock?

Fair, but do the future a favor and "thumbs up" his likes. .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRI

Re: [FRIAM] Schwill Rock?

Oh, and I forgot probably the funniest example. For those of you still employed, how amazing is it when you mention something in a stand-up meeting that you are attempting to do and your coworkers: 1) Each does a google search 2) Posts in a slack channel the same 5 results you got when looking for

[FRIAM] Schwill Rock?

""" I want to get this into some ethics of AI/ML course materials, but I guess it would be the aesthetics of AI/ML and the ethics of inflicting bad aesthetics on a captive audience. """ Perhaps, it could be part of a wider collection of courses called "The Aesthetics of Domination"? Tongues-in-che

Re: [FRIAM] Schwill Rock?

"Canal hopping is distinct from turning up the heat?" In the Brownian limit, no, but otherwise yes. "To *really* keep foraging it seems to me vast privilege is needed." I hear you as advocating for academia-like institutions, here? I understand the classic arguments, that it is difficult to rese

Re: [FRIAM] Schwill Rock?

Wow, Tijuana Cartel, now that's what my morning has been missing. So are the similarity algorithms actually different or simply different datasets? I get why similarity seems like a good idea at first, but clearly, now that the boat is moving... or maybe said a different way, "You have your whole l

Re: [FRIAM] Schwill Rock?

PPS. Wrt the distinction between popularity and similarity, there is a sense to me that they both still aim to "point" at means, and this IMO, is part of the problem: With deep wells come deep silos. .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . FRIAM Applied Complexit

Re: [FRIAM] Schwill Rock?

"Computing distributional overlap out in the tails of high dimensional distributions… Seems like it couldn’t possibly be sampled well enough to be informative." But isn't that where the money is? It is this kind of sampling game with limited resources over ridiculously large spaces that some of

Re: [FRIAM] [dis]integrated

"What matters is whether a silly dance on TikTok goes viral." Matters to what/whom? I understand that it is a joke to imagine stewardship, but virality and its effects are the consequences of structural design. Wrt TypeFocus, seems like FaceBook should have (or maybe did) used that before hiring

Re: [FRIAM] Schwill Rock?

"if you're purposeful enough to actually target something ... instead of staring at all the fingers." Ah, I knew it would come back around to Frank's phoney 1970's race research. .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoo

Re: [FRIAM] Schwill Rock?

"I mean from the perspective of aesthetics. Understanding why Pandora is messing it up means sampling the deep wells." Yes, but not more than one has to. This is why I am advocating for methods like a weighted ensemble. The working analogy for me comes from drug discovery. It doesn't make a lot of

Re: [FRIAM] [dis]integrated

"Bah. I understand it can be fun to troll. But if you can't make at least an attempt to avoid blankface pithiness, I can't respond." Sorry, I thought we were one something like the same wavelength there. Care to expand? Feel free to call me if you imagine that I am in anything but good faith chatt

Re: [FRIAM] Schwill Rock?

"I call it heart rate research." Ah yes, the banality of evil. Where's Hannah. .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/

[FRIAM] Wei Qi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkuNWDG3yNM&t=70s&ab_channel=DWNews https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obsHRjulO8A&ab_channel=DWNews ... So I can imagine a double-digit kyu witnessing Taiwan's "reintegration" into China and thinking, sure, you can capture those guys, do it! And then, I can almost h

Re: [FRIAM] [dis]integrated

"I post here because I like contextually laden posts." Ha. If only. Most of my posts (as well as just about everyone else that attempts to write meaningfully) are met with banality with probability near one, so don't give me that slop. You made a claim about something mattering: *"What matters is

Re: [FRIAM] Where are all the workers going?

"counting flowers on the wall..." A chef friend of mine suggested yesterday that many likely left for the construction industry. .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam

Re: [FRIAM] Schwill Rock?

Thanks Roger, Marcus. I am a newbie in this area and so it might be good for me to ask some potentially obvious questions about SMILES (since they are used everywhere). 1. Is the SMILES isomorphism problem equivalent to the graph isomorphism problem, or is there some advantage from being context f

Re: [FRIAM] Schwill Rock?

@EricS Thanks for that resource. I shared it with my coworkers. @Marcus My office neighbor works with weighted ensemble and so most of what I am thinking about there is related to my discussions with him. Those discussions are mostly in the frame of molecular dynamics and related algorithms. That'

Re: [FRIAM] Schwill Rock?

Oh, and here is a good article on the SMILES isomorphism problem: https://depth-first.com/articles/2021/10/06/molecular-graph-canonicalization/ .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.l

[FRIAM] Geometrical Mechanics

I would love to have a reading group around this: https://harrydole.com/Mac%20Lane/Geometrical%20Mechanics%20v1%201-22.pdf .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/sub

Re: [FRIAM] Geometrical Mechanics

Books want to be free, Frank. Do what is in your heart. .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-

Re: [FRIAM] [dis]integrated

The Scout Mindsethttps://bookshop.org/books/the-scout-mindset-why-some-people-see-things-clearly-and-others-don-t/9780735217553 Rad, just ordered a copy. Yeah, capsaicin might be easier, but this will do just fine to get me agitated. Where's my soapbox. .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--..

Re: [FRIAM] Schwill Rock?

"*having an atomic *weight allows you to break some degeneracies." Thanks Roger. This bit about the atomic weights seems the most interesting part, the only thing that can save the algorithm from exponential expense. I still don't have a good idea of what the final complexity ends up being. "*The

Re: [FRIAM] Heart Rate

This came up on my stream: * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PV_2BzrTBAE&ab_channel=Then%26Now Eventually, the video discusses eugenics, which of course, the United States helped spearhead: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics_Record_Officer * https://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/14/science/haunte

Re: [FRIAM] Heart Rate

""" You may be interested to know... that having identified a high risk population... we were ethically bound to intervene in their young lives. The result was that we established a Head Start preschool. """ It mostly raises questions for me about whom I would want to establish a Head Start progra

Re: [FRIAM] Heart Rate

""" Also on Friday you said that you are happy when people my age die. So it doesn't matter to you that 95% of people who die are unvaccinated. """ Something similar to that, so thank you for this opportunity to clarify. What are examples of goals that others not like yourself might have? For

Re: [FRIAM] The unvaccinated

Barry, It is behind a payway. Would you summarize? https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/15/opinion/covid-vaccines-unvaccinated.html .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam

Re: [FRIAM] The unvaccinated

I ended up getting the $1 subscription and now I have to do a chat to cancel it :( Thank you for the article, though. Nicely written. .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualf

Re: [FRIAM] Heart Rate

""" I don't know Jon, except from a single VFriam during the peak of the pandemic last year. I really hope that he meant that as some sort of a joke, though even that would be in very, very bad taste. """ I don't know you either, Gary, so I certainly don't need your judgement. .-- .- -. - / .-

[FRIAM] The Paper Architect.

On one of my last visits to Cleveland, I had the pleasure of meeting a young savant named Jack. Besides hosting a late-night radio show on WCSB[𝄞] and performing afternoon noise music at a near-westside bar[𝄢], he talks nearly non-stop, and almost singularly, and with encyclopedic scope and depth,

[FRIAM] *-sovereignty

*"It seems like ZKPs (perhaps including tech like homomorphic encryption) hint at a more elegant construct for demonstrating one's authenticity while preserving one's place on a spectrum between autonomy or panmixia."* Sure. I can imagine presenting a 4-coloring (AGCT) of a familiar sequence and t

Re: [FRIAM] stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development

I think of stigmergy as a niche construction that "constructs" back. Now I know that this is slightly different than the typical image where we picture stigmergy as an endofunctor on an agent's behavior, but I think it helps to explode-out what happens in that endofunctor. Stigmergy then ought to e

Re: [FRIAM] stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development

Two abuses of example: 1. A bucket fills with water, a threshold is met and the bucket switches mode to redirect water to the floor. 2. Baseball players in the field work shape the stats by acting on the batting players until a threshold is met and the players switch to the batting mode. .-- .-

Re: [FRIAM] *-sovereignty

I suppose the slogan could be: "Proofs are to propositions as identities are to agents", and in the context of zero knowledge protocols, the parallel extends to: φ: Verifying a proof without exposing the proof. ψ: Verifying an identity without exposing the identity. To the degree that φ is the ca

Re: [FRIAM] *-sovereignty

""" Could the verifier be allowed a global understanding using something akin to homomorphic encryption, though? """ In some sense I would suppose yes for FHE, but the method of verification in ZKP seems not to be. Again, you mentioned playing fast and loose with the bindings. It would be great to

Re: [FRIAM] stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development

""" I know these are supposed to be not-very-serious examples, but to take them at least somewhat seriously would you elaborate a bit? Let's focus on the bucket filling with water. Are you saying that this can be cast as a stigmergic interaction? How so? """ Sure, though perhaps stigmergic-adjacen

Re: [FRIAM] *-sovereignty

""" I'm thinking along the lines of your side note that propositions have many proofs (polyphenism) and agents have many identities (robustness). """ Thank you for that connection, I hadn't thought about it. It is the polyphenism that I typically find most exciting about proofs, the way proof of a

[FRIAM] pale blue eyes

If I could make the world as pure And strange as what I see I'd put you in the mirror I put in front of me I put in front of me Linger on your pale blue eyes .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p M

Re: [FRIAM] stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development

""" The problem for me with this view is that I don't understand how seeing pheromone as 'organizing itself in space' is intuitively useful. """ I suppose that even if I didn't find this view *useful*, which I do and will attempt to explain momentarily, I continue to find that it offers a theoreti

Re: [FRIAM] stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development

I want to clarify what a dual space is. I think it is much more general than Frank thinks it is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adjoint_functors .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.

Re: [FRIAM] stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development

""" It is hard to find the motivation to invest much in category theory when the practical considerations are left as an exercise to the reader. """ ... but not that hard: https://github.com/jonzingale/Haskell/blob/master/blinky/blinky_image/Comonad.hs Now if you will excuse me, I feel like I

Re: [FRIAM] stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development

Here, I am calculating 1 and 2 dimensional cellular automata as comonadic structures (dual to monadic structures*). Category theory put directly into practice. In particular, it took me some thought to build the notion of fiber and connection between fibers to generalize comonadically to 2D arrays.

Re: [FRIAM] stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development

Also, for those that are unfamiliar with how adjoint functors come into the picture, here is something I wrote for my website on adjoint functors for dynamical systems: https://jonzingale.github.io/dynamical-monads/dynamical.html The graphs produced directly via this code: https://github.com/jonz

Re: [FRIAM] stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development

Thanks for understanding, Frank. Yes, the duality of vector spaces arises as a particular instance with perfect duality only in the case of finite-dimensional vector spaces. Here is a page outlining a broader discussion: https://ncatlab.org/nlab/show/duality Duality turns out to be a surprisingly

Re: [FRIAM] stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development

""" An example of what Marcus is saying is that using the category definition of duality you can show that the dual space of the dual space is (is isomorphic to) the original space. That's easy to show without the added generality. """ Except for when that isn't true. Consider non-finite dimens

Re: [FRIAM] Thread Bust: WAS: stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development

*Usefulness* is almost certainly intensional. An *Image* can either be a beacon or a beckoning siren, with no way to distinguish from the type signature alone. That is, the use of an image may be maximally stateful. Discussion was at a point like this one, parallel discussions about canalization a

[FRIAM] comonadic-style: WAS: stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development

comonadic-style: WAS: stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development Comonads, like trees or stacks, are data structures which guide a computation along a chosen line and imply a mode of reasoning. That they first arose in the context of category theory should not make them lesser citizens. What t

Re: [FRIAM] comonadic-style: WAS: stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development

(reposted for readability) Comonads, like trees or stacks, are data structures which guide a computation along a chosen line and imply a mode of reasoning. That they first arose in the context of category theory should not make them lesser citizens. What the comonad captures is the essence of loc

Re: [FRIAM] Thread Bust: WAS: stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development

I am sad to say that my favorite online cellular automata app is now deceased[†]. In the very early 2000's, I worked as a medical secretary, in gastroenterology, at the Cleveland Clinic, in Cleveland. Every day, I would take a bus and then a train and then walk to a ziggurat at the center of the ca

Re: [FRIAM] Revising the American Revolution

"I assume our privacy follows from our lack of importance. To others." This is the sense that I have always understood the statement: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,..." That we,

Re: [FRIAM] What can or can't (shouldn't) be said on FriAM...

""" So, Jon, and all of you other ex-perts, Is it the case, or not? I can see that it might be the case for those of you who, unlike me, MIGHT become massively important to others later on. But is it, or is it not, the case for we ordinary mortals. """ What I am making, perhaps too many, efforts

Re: [FRIAM] What can or can't (shouldn't) be said on FriAM...

It is a quote from Cormac McCarthy. I did not know that he worked as a stonemason. The quote is from Blood Meridian. .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe

Re: [FRIAM] What can or can't (shouldn't) be said on FriAM...

The Stonemason looks good, I just ordered a copy. The quote is given by the Judge in chapter 11. Glanton's gang is making their way north, following the forests of the Gila, when they come upon the ruins at Keet Seel. Just before, the Judge tells the story of all men. It appears as if it were his o

Re: [FRIAM] stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development

""" There is a formalism for discrete-event dynamical systems known as “bond graphs”. """ >From a brief survey of the wikipedia entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bond_graph I see one of the advantages of bond graphs over traditional hypergraphs is the bi-directional nature of the linkages. H

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