Re: [FRIAM] Apologies

Hey, we can then welcome the first cyborg on the list ;-) Hope all goes well with fixing the knees, Günther Douglas Roberts wrote: To the list at large: apologies for any extra crankiness that has leaked through of late. Recently I have had the biological equivalent of two grenades go off:

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Distribution / Parallelization of ABM's

Hello Doug, I guess your friend is aware of this: http://www.hpjava.org/ (a Java wrapper to interface with a native MPI package). What speaks against this? > 2. java runs 3-4 times slower than C, C++, Fortran, and machine time > is expensive, and finally There have already been many studie

Re: [FRIAM] Gapminder

mplexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > > -- Günther Greindl [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.complexitystudies.org FRIAM

[FRIAM] FRIAM Community/Collaborative search engines

Hello, I came across Eurekster/Google community/collaborative search engines, and I thought maybe this would be a good idea for the FRIAM group. The Eurekster FAQ says in a nutshell what it's about: "Sometimes, looking for specific information has that needle in a haystack feeling. Not only can

Re: [FRIAM] Category theory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hello, I keep being surprised by this list, when topics which I have been interested in for some time come cropping up in the discussion here :-) I would like to second Robert's recommendation for the book Conceptual Mathematics, a good place to go from there would be: Category Theory http://w

Re: [FRIAM] Scholars and Ignorance

rld: develop the > intellectual communities that you can, take them where they will go, and > forget the schmucks with the big royalty packages. > > You heard if first from me, > > Nick > > -- Günther Greindl Departement of Philosophy of Science University of Vienna

[FRIAM] microsoft surface - fyi

Looks cool :-) http://www.microsoft.com/surface/ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org

Re: [FRIAM] Seminal Papers in Complexity

ng which in reality still eludes our understanding. Best Regards, Günther -- Günther Greindl Department of Philosophy of Science University of Vienna [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.univie.ac.at/Wissenschaftstheorie/ Blog: http://dao.complexitystudies.org/ Si

Re: [FRIAM] math and the mother church

acrifice rigor by being intuitive (on the contrary!). Cheers, Günther -- Günther Greindl Department of Philosophy of Science University of Vienna [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.univie.ac.at/Wissenschaftstheorie/ Blog: http://dao.complexitystudies.org/ Site: http://www.complexitystudies.org ===

Re: [FRIAM] Book trade.

M 87545 > Phone +1 505 606 1691 > http://www.soe.ucsc.edu/~okram > > > > > > > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > le

Re: [FRIAM] politics and cliques

s best story IMHO) > So, even if they remain contradictory, I can retain (and be > hypocritical about) both of them. But, given the recent conversation > about networks and cliques, I figured I'd throw this out and see what > came back. [grin] As I said, I think they need

Re: [FRIAM] politics and cliques

es down to which few objectives should the > large control structures take on? E.g. should abortion laws be handled > by the states in the US or the feds? What about euthanasia? > "Universal" health care? Taxes? Defense? Production infrastructure > (like rails and r

Re: [FRIAM] When is something complex

gt;> must somebody take in consideration to decide that is studying a complex >>> phenomena? >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> >>> Alfredo CV >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> ======== >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group lists

Re: [FRIAM] When is something complex

table)? >> Something like Gödel's theorem. ? How that? Best, Günther -- Günther Greindl Department of Philosophy of Science University of Vienna [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.univie.ac.at/Wissenschaftstheorie/ Blog: http:

Re: [FRIAM] FRIAM and causality

ever been convincingly shown to exist). Extraordinary claims need extraordinary evidence. Regards, Günther -- Günther Greindl Department of Philosophy of Science University of Vienna [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.univie.ac.at/Wissenschaftstheorie/ Blog: http://dao.complexitys

Re: [FRIAM] FRIAM and causality

e total ordering. If things out of the light cone are not comparable - who cares? - they don't affect A anyway. Regards, Günther -- Günther Greindl Department of Philosophy of Science University of Vienna [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.univie.ac.at/Wissenschaftstheorie/ Blog: http://dao.

Re: [FRIAM] FRIAM and causality

f you subscribe to indeterminism partial ordering arises. And to the hammer/nail question: in the macroworld determinism well established (because even if one assumes totally indet. quantum fluctuations they would cancel out). How could you ever get a partial odering in the hammer/nail que

Re: [FRIAM] FRIAM and causality

guess you mean "affects the process under investigation causally" and not "affects causality" (last two words above paragraph) Former interpretation: we agree. Latter interpretation: we should discuss ;-)) Cheers, Günther -- Günther Greindl Department of Philosophy of Science

Re: [FRIAM] Is mathematical pattern the theory of everything?

its that nature has imposed us via quantum mechanics: Regards, Günther -- Günther Greindl Department of Philosophy of Science University of Vienna [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.univie.ac.at/Wissenschaftstheorie/ Blog: http://dao.complexitystudies.org/ Site

Re: [FRIAM] Penrose: The Road to Reality

> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > -- Günther Greindl Department of Philosophy of Science University of Vienna [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [FRIAM] Robert Rosen

> anxiously we are enveloped, you will easily know that I have > related nothing which is beyond belief." > (Girolamo Cardano) > > --- > > > > > > > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures

Re: [FRIAM] Penrose: The Road to Reality

Dear Owen, > Good to know. I actually like that sort of read .. an "index" into > the mathematics world and a good motivator. Yes that is exactly how I view the book: an index and a motivator! Cheers, Günther -- Günther Greindl Department of Philosophy of Science Univ

Re: [FRIAM] Robert Rosen

nuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFHe98oZeB+vOTnLkoRAjKfAJ0fFwhcKlZulDmkoXZaDKb3a/b76QCfXjC5 > WZaDT213cIPPOhP1bRH8rQE= > =cWA0 > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > ===

[FRIAM] Complexity Explained by Peter Erdi

Springer has a new introductory book on complexity out: http://www.springer.com/west/home?SGWID=4-102-22-173664720-0&teaserId=470893&CENTER_ID=161746 (Complexity Explained by Peter Erdi) Has anyone had a chance to look inside? Regards, Günther -- Günther Greindl Department of Philo

Re: [FRIAM] Complexity Explained by Peter Erdi

t the book. > I can't wait to read what he has to say. > > Jennifer H. Watkins > International and Applied Technology Division > Los Alamos National Laboratory > Los Alamos, NM 87545 > Phone +1 505 663 5515 > http://public.lanl.gov/jhw > > > > On Jan 3, 2

Re: [FRIAM] Robert Rosen

t I meant - computability of course raises different associations, I was sloppy in the formulation. > I do believe that there are certain processes in reality > that are noncomputable in terms of what we now call "computation". Ok for the computability issues - I can'

Re: [FRIAM] Sour's Ear to Silk Purse

stood Bayes intuitively. No kidding - Eliezer's tutorial is great (play around with the slides). Of course, this does not mean that the problem of the priors has been solved ;-)) Regards, Günther -- Günther Greindl Department of Philosophy of Science University of Vienna [EMAIL

Re: [FRIAM] recap on Rosen

-795-4844 > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] explorations: www.synapse9.com > “in the last 200 years the amount of change that once needed a century of > thought now takes just five weeks” > > > > > ============ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >

Re: [FRIAM] recap on Rosen

Dear Glen, >> The principal claim of Rosen - that life is not mechanically emulable - >> is shown to be false by the second recursion theorem >> > I disagree. I don't believe that theorem refutes RR's claim, which I > prefer to think of as "non-well-founded sets cannot be realized". But, > I ad

Re: [FRIAM] recap on Rosen

&s=books&qid=1208976075&sr=8-1 (Very expensive :-((, maybe your library has it?) Bruno Marchal (http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/) alerted me to the astounding and beautiful consequences of mechanism applied throughout; and the philosophical chasms opening when not doing so. Ch

Re: [FRIAM] recap on Rosen

> OK. So RR makes a prohibitive claim ... something like "living systems > cannot be accurately modeled with a UTM because MR systems cannot be > realized". And you are refuting that claim by a counter-claim that MR > systems _can_ be realized, emphasizing that the recursion theorem is > crucial

Re: [FRIAM] recap on Rosen

s the recursion theorem, then we could say > that one or the other (Rosen's or the recursion theorem) is refuted. Ack, I also think that the problem is that Rosen's ideas are not formalized enough to present a contradiction. Cheers, Günther -- Günther Greindl Departm

[FRIAM] Greg Egan and other SciFi

Hi, I know that some people on this list like to read Greg Egan; as I am now nearly finished with his books (Incandescence is upcoming in May I think, but that's only one more ;-) I would be interested if anyone can recommend authors similar in style. I especially like Egan's idea-centered appro

Re: [FRIAM] recap on Rosen

xamples of abuses, I would be interested? > to Wells' paper. Then make fun of me if I haven't read it, yet. > That'll coerce me into reading it. OK :-)) Cheers, Günther -- Günther Greindl Department of Philosophy of Science University of Vienna [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www

[FRIAM] Replicating Rapid-prototyper

http://reprap.org/bin/view/Main/WebHome still a bit expensive, though ;-) Regards, Günther FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www

[FRIAM] The Protein Folding Problem

Review Article of possible interest to some of you (subscription required): Annual Review of Biophysics Vol. 37: 289-316 (Volume publication date June 2008) (doi:10.1146/annurev.biophys.37.092707.153558) The Protein Folding Problem Ken A. Dill Et Al http://arjournals.annualreviews.org/doi/abs/10

[FRIAM] Solve Puzzles for Science | Fold It!

Related to the article I sent before, here's a game where you can actually play and aid science: http://fold.it/portal/adobe_main/ From the website: What other good stuff am I contributing to by playing? Proteins are found in all living things, including plants. Certain types of plants are g

Re: [FRIAM] "Dirty Power" Linked to Cancers in California School in Milham-Morgan Study

Hi, sounds scary. What I find strange is this: they say at the beginning of the paper: There are many sources of ‘‘dirty power’’ in today’s electrical equipment. Examples of electrical equipment designed to operate with interrupted current flow are light dimmer switches that interrupt the curren

Re: [FRIAM] Urban myths in contemporary cosmology

ctures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > -- Günther Greindl Department of Philosophy of Science University of Vienna [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.univie.ac.at/Wissenschaftstheorie/ Blog: http://dao.complexitystudies.or

Re: [FRIAM] Urban myths in contemporary cosmology

able to recognize itself in a mirror. I'm > particularly groping for something beyond a simple notion of whether an > observer is 'typical' in some given environment and more how > observerness emerges and operates in coevolutionary or epigenetic > situations. Would the

Re: [FRIAM] Statistical Mechanics: Algorithms and Computations, by Werner Krauth

Hey, the book has already crossed my radar but I have not had the occasion to read it, as I'm drowning in books already. But I would like to queue in with Owen as to interest in FRIAMer comments if some of you have already read it? Cheers, Günther Owen Densmore wrote: > Has anyone read this cr

Re: [FRIAM] Mentalism and Calculus

s Professor of Psychology and Ethology, > Clark University ([EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) -- Günther Greindl Department of Philosophy of Science University of Vienna [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.univie.ac.at/Wissenschaftstheorie/ Blog: http://dao.complexityst

Re: [FRIAM] Mathematics and Music

matizing the theory. Look at Einstein for instance: the ideas he had very hanging around "intuitively" for quite some time; but he mathematized it, it went experimental, and voila, scientifically confirmed and accepted. Cheers, Günther -- Günther Greindl Department of Philosophy of

Re: [FRIAM] Mathematics and Music

icate (drawing on the other person's experience of living in the same world as you actually). Cheers, Günther -- Günther Greindl Department of Philosophy of Science University of Vienna [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.univie.ac.at/Wissenschaftstheorie/ Blog: http://dao.comple

Re: [FRIAM] Haiku-ified was: Mathematics and Music - missed opportunity

Steve Smith wrote: > Some of us, we are > Just a few syllables > short of a haiku liked this one :-) cheers, günther FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, uns

Re: [FRIAM] Mathematics and Music

ure in an embedded (in the math structure) cognitive system (human etc) (which is of course part of the larger reality -> it is simply a nested structure with some parts mirroring other parts). Cheers, Günther -- Günther Greindl Department of Philosophy of Science University of Vienn

Re: [FRIAM] Friam Digest, Vol 61, Issue 16

I you are interested in models of the self, this could be for you: Metzinger, T. Being No One. The Self-Model Theory of Subjectivity. MIT Press, 2003 Cheers, Günther -- Günther Greindl Department of Philosophy of Science University of Vienna [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog: http

Re: [FRIAM] Confessions of a Mathemechanic.

d that will include philosophy of math and traditional metaphysics). Reality is not confusing. Our mental models are often not in tune with reality, and that is what is confusing. Cheers, Günther -- Günther Greindl Department of Philosophy of Science University of Vienna [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [FRIAM] Confessions of a Mathemechanic.

arithmetic not; in short: you need addition and multiplication in your arithmetic -> with this you can construct gödel numbers, define recursion, and get your (first) incompleteness theorem, from which second follows easily. Cheers, Günther -- Günther Greindl Department of Philosophy of Sc

Re: [FRIAM] Causality

recise ideas", if you like :-)) Apart from that, I think a lot of earnest thinking by oneself is necessary - you have to have a genuine interest in these things. Knowledge and insight come from "diu noctuque incubando" (by brooding day and night), a saying Nietzsche ascribed to

Re: [FRIAM] The Brain and Creativity 2

llage idiot, and _real_ superintelligences: http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/05/my-childhood-ro.html Cheers, Günther -- Günther Greindl Department of Philosophy of Science University of Vienna [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog: http://www.complexitystudies.org/ Thesis: http://www.complexitystu

Re: [FRIAM] The Brain and Creativity 2

nsights will happen > anyway in effect says it doesn't have to. What do you mean by this? "insights happen anyway => thats why they don't?" I think I am misunderstanding you. Cheers, Günther -- Günther Greindl Department of Philosophy of Science University o

Re: [FRIAM] The Brain and Creativity 2

n this way too. Cheers, Günther -- Günther Greindl Department of Philosophy of Science University of Vienna [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog: http://www.complexitystudies.org/ Thesis: http://www.complexitystudies.org/proposal/ FRIAM Applied Co

Re: [FRIAM] Rosen, Life Itself

Glen, > Math (which is more than formal systems) can handle loopy inference > quite well. But the modeling vernacular can NOT handle it so well. And which mathematics is not a formal system? If it's not formal it's not math I would say. Cheers, Günther -- Günther Grein

Re: [FRIAM] Bais talk and books?

www.friam.org >>> >> >> >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org

Re: [FRIAM] Rosen, Life Itself

ind, peano, russell etc) is assumed in the book) Cheers, Günther -- Günther Greindl Department of Philosophy of Science University of Vienna [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog: http://www.complexitystudies.org/ Thesis: http://www.complexitystudies.org/proposal/ ==

Re: [FRIAM] Rosen, Life Itself

x of the matter. So, we have the hypothesis that in the end it all boils down to formal systems (=mechanism; which is nicely defined via computability); or that it somehow goes beyond the formal - but what should this be? I wonder... Of course, computability (I equate it with mechanism here

Re: [FRIAM] Young but distant gallaxies

Hi, > This doesn't mean strictly remaining with restraints belonging under the > heading of that horrible word "reductionism". Why do you think that the word is horrible? (be specific please ;-) Cheers, Günther -- Günther Greindl Department of Philosophy of Science

Re: [FRIAM] Young but distant gallaxies

Jack, ok, I phrased my question badly. To avoid any nitpicking ;-), I would like to know what you mean by this: "This doesn't mean strictly remaining with restraints belonging under the heading of that horrible word "reductionism". Cheers, Günther =

Re: [FRIAM] Young but distant gallaxies

up Cheers, Günther -- Günther Greindl Department of Philosophy of Science University of Vienna [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog: http://www.complexitystudies.org/ Thesis: http://www.complexitystudies.org/proposal/ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group lis

Re: [FRIAM] Young but distant gallaxies

gh it's actually a compliment. Reductionism is about understanding what's going on under the hood. I don't know why people oppose this. Cheers, Günther -- Günther Greindl Department of Philosophy of Science University of Vienna [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog: http://www.com

Re: [FRIAM] Young but distant gallaxies

implisctic and egotistic manner. Why is reductionism simplistic and egotistic? What would a non-simplistic and non-egotistic explanation be? And since when are theories like QED simple, despite being reductionist? *confused* Günther -- Günther Greindl Department of Philosophy of Science Uni

Re: [FRIAM] Young but distant gallaxies

do not enjoy a privileged position. But that is another matter which I am just developing (so I can't write about it yet *grin*) Cheers, Günther -- Günther Greindl Department of Philosophy of Science University of Vienna [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog: http://www.complexitystudies.org/ Thesis: ht

Re: [FRIAM] Young but distant gallaxies

al of understanding the world. Cheers, Günther -- Günther Greindl Department of Philosophy of Science University of Vienna [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog: http://www.complexitystudies.org/ Thesis: http://www.complexitystudies.org/proposal/

[FRIAM] Joining Post

Hello everybody, I've been lurking on the list for quite some time now, and have always enjoyed reading the interesting discussions going on here (this is definitely my favourite mailing list :-) So I guess it's time to join the fray. My academic background is law and computer science. In Octobe

Re: [FRIAM] Dynamics of Complex Systems by Yaneer Bar-Yam

Hi Owen, if I may recommend a book: Complexity: Hierarchical Structures and Scaling in Physics (Cambridge Nonlinear Science Series) by Remo Badii, Antonio Politi Here the amazon link: http://tinyurl.com/eb78d Site of the author: http://www.geocities.com/badii_remo/ Despite the title, the bo

Re: [FRIAM] real tinking

Jochen Fromm wrote: > > Much more interesting than the bad > complexity book from Remo Badii and Antonio Politi that > gets dusty somehwere on my bookshelf. Even if it is > from Cambridge University Press, the Badii and Politi > book is one of those disappointing books that you put down > ag

[FRIAM] Star Wars come true - projections in thin air

Wow. I say no more. (Watch the first video!) http://www.masternewmedia.org/news/2006/07/24/video_display_interface_of_the.htm as tinyurl: http://tinyurl.com/fqbfz Regards, Günther FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Friday

Re: [FRIAM] (GWAVA: SPAM) What have the Romans - sorry - complexity done for us?

I agree absolutely, Robert, would have written the same had you not beat me to it ;-) I think "complexity" is not a science but a way to approach problems. Traditional science asks: what does my discipline have to say to this and that? "Complexity scientists" ask: we have a concrete phenomenon he

Re: [FRIAM] FRIAM book

I abolutely agree. Also, I think it's a plus that the people on this list have a diverse background. After all, complexity science is interdisciplinarity par excellence. So, whatever results from this collaboration could very well be a good foundation for further work. Regards, Günther Jochen Fro