Re: [FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight between Elon and Sam

2025-02-11 Thread glen
Yeah. What most irritates me about Tesla, SpaceX, and NeuraLink (maybe even StarLink) is that there are really good people behind the actual work. It feels like a typical trade show to me. Sure, maybe there are knowledgeable people at some of the booths, but most of them are mid-level bureaucra

Re: [FRIAM] genai and critical thinking

2025-02-11 Thread steve smith
On 2/11/25 7:43 AM, glen wrote: The Impact of Generative AI on Critical Thinking: Self-Reported Reductions in Cognitive Effort and Confidence Effects From a Survey of Knowledge Workers https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/uploads/prod/2025/01/lee_2025_ai_critical_thinking_survey.pdf It

Re: [FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight between Elon and Sam

2025-02-11 Thread steve smith
Musk's world has given me a triple-whammy.  But probably a much-needed one. I was raised on much of the same "good old fashioned future" Sci Fi Musk was so from time to time self-driving electric cars, satellite enabled instantaneous global comms, neural-machine interfaces, Tom Swiftian Tunnel

Re: [FRIAM] genai and critical thinking

2025-02-11 Thread steve smith
On 2/11/25 8:20 AM, glen wrote: That's a fraught question. First, editors need not have been writers before they became editors. But barring that, my answer would be "No". But they prolly *do* lose facility for writing, the ease with which they write. It's simple reinforcement. Use it or lose

[FRIAM] genai and critical thinking

2025-02-11 Thread glen
The Impact of Generative AI on Critical Thinking: Self-Reported Reductions in Cognitive Effort and Confidence Effects From a Survey of Knowledge Workers https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/uploads/prod/2025/01/lee_2025_ai_critical_thinking_survey.pdf It really doesn't seem that different to

Re: [FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight between Elon and Sam

2025-02-11 Thread Marcus Daniels
Seems underutilized in the life sciences.. That would be where I would think finding subtle patterns across datasets and the literature would be the good fit for LLMs. https://assets.anthropic.com/m/2e23255f1e84ca97/original/Economic_Tasks_AI_Paper.pdf

Re: [FRIAM] genai and critical thinking

2025-02-11 Thread steve smith
On 2/11/25 10:15 AM, glen wrote: There's a Nurse Anesthetist I sometimes drink with who is dyslexic. He once described how difficult it was for him to get through his schooling and how it seems to compare to his wife's experience getting through her Nurse Practitioner schooling. I waffle betwe

Re: [FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight between Elon and Sam

2025-02-11 Thread Jon Zingale
"Apparently, Tesla only managed to show profitability last quarter due to unrealized earnings on Bitcoin. Stock is way overvalued." Technically, I would put a short-term (let's say 3 year) fair value around $210 or so, but would likely wait to pay $150-$160. Fundamentally, I would like to see the

Re: [FRIAM] genai and critical thinking

2025-02-11 Thread Marcus Daniels
Before AI, there was code completion in IDEs that would suggest alternative functions that could be used. At the time this was introduced, I was suspicious of this because it seemed to show that developers could not remember their code. When I’m working on a code a lot, I do remember details an

Re: [FRIAM] genai and critical thinking

2025-02-11 Thread glen
There's a Nurse Anesthetist I sometimes drink with who is dyslexic. He once described how difficult it was for him to get through his schooling and how it seems to compare to his wife's experience getting through her Nurse Practitioner schooling. I waffle between wondering if this guy's actuall

Re: [FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight between Elon and Sam

2025-02-11 Thread Marcus Daniels
I find the OpenAI purchase attempt strange. He must really have an inferiority complex, since xAI has the hardware now to compete.[1] Or maybe they have the money and brawn but not the brains? For robotaxis, I’d bet on Waymo not Tesla. Waymo is very conspicuous and popular in San Francisco.

Re: [FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight between Elon and Sam

2025-02-11 Thread Marcus Daniels
Apparently, Tesla only managed to show profitability last quarter due to unrealized earnings on Bitcoin. Stock is way overvalued. -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of glen Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2025 7:36 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight be

Re: [FRIAM] genai and critical thinking

2025-02-11 Thread Marcus Daniels
Do editors lose the ability to write? > On Feb 11, 2025, at 6:43 AM, glen wrote: > > The Impact of Generative AI on Critical Thinking: Self-Reported Reductions > in Cognitive Effort and Confidence Effects From a Survey of Knowledge Workers > https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/uploads/pr

Re: [FRIAM] genai and critical thinking

2025-02-11 Thread glen
That's a fraught question. First, editors need not have been writers before they became editors. But barring that, my answer would be "No". But they prolly *do* lose facility for writing, the ease with which they write. It's simple reinforcement. Use it or lose it. E.g. I can still code in Ada

Re: [FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight between Elon and Sam

2025-02-11 Thread glen
What do the Twitter purchase and the OpenAI bid have in common with the dismantling of USAID and the DEI purge? Control the narrative. He's not defending open-source. And he's not trying to crush the competition. He's trying and succeeding at controlling the narrative. In many ways, Musk has l

Re: [FRIAM] genai and critical thinking

2025-02-11 Thread steve smith
On 2/11/25 12:41 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: Huh, Claude just implemented the optimal strategy to Nim and ran in it its analysis tool (the Javascript engine on my browser). what my oldMansBarFriend had to say after a brief discussion about Nim and the hand-over-hand on bat-handle playgroun

Re: [FRIAM] genai and critical thinking

2025-02-11 Thread Marcus Daniels
Huh, Claude just implemented the optimal strategy to Nim and ran in it its analysis tool (the Javascript engine on my browser). From: Friam on behalf of Roger Critchlow Date: Tuesday, February 11, 2025 at 11:36 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] g

Re: [FRIAM] genai and critical thinking

2025-02-11 Thread Roger Critchlow
On Tue, Feb 11, 2025 at 10:15 AM Marcus Daniels wrote: > *[...]* the evolving code itself -- code that can have informative types > and even carry proofs. The weirdest thing about using AI is that it has > no opinions. Claude will rewrite code without asking (seemingly having no > self-contro

Re: [FRIAM] genai and critical thinking

2025-02-11 Thread Roger Critchlow
"by themselves they cannot calculate" but when prompted they will attempt any kind of task that wasn't blacklisted by their guard rails. -- rec -- On Tue, Feb 11, 2025 at 12:41 PM Marcus Daniels wrote: > Huh, Claude just implemented the optimal strategy to Nim and ran in it > its analysis tool

Re: [FRIAM] genai and critical thinking

2025-02-11 Thread Marcus Daniels
From 30k feet, a lot of people driving around for no apparent reason. They eat and drink a lot and then use expensive drugs to remove the adipose tissue that stores all that energy. The atrophy they talk about from use of AI doesn’t seem to apply to their gluteus maximus. Humans, sigh. From:

Re: [FRIAM] genai and critical thinking

2025-02-11 Thread Frank Wimberly
We need more dogs. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Tue, Feb 11, 2025, 6:04 PM Marcus Daniels wrote: > From 30k feet, a lot of people driving around for no apparent reason. > They eat and drink a lot and then use expensive drugs to remo

Re: [FRIAM] genai and critical thinking

2025-02-11 Thread steve smith
"other people are traffic" On 2/11/25 6:03 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: From 30k feet, a lot of people driving around for no apparent reason.  They eat and drink a lot and then use expensive drugs to remove the adipose tissue that stores all that energy.   The atrophy they talk about from us