Re: [FRIAM] When are telic attributions appropriate in physical descriptions?

2024-08-13 Thread glen
It's reasonable to ask what proportion of profundity is a cover for something versus a marker for something. I still tend to give people the benefit of the doubt. So when I see either something that seems profound (to me) or others saying or acting as if something's profound, it's a marker for

Re: [FRIAM] When are telic attributions appropriate in physical descriptions?

2024-08-13 Thread steve smith
Ideaphoria as part of an annealing schedule perhaps? A possibly self-referential example of what we are speaking of follows, as triggered by the topic and substance itself: On he angel-demon duality... Escher's famous hyperbolic tesselation on the same subject reminds me a bit of rayleigh-b

Re: [FRIAM] When are telic attributions appropriate in physical descriptions?

2024-08-13 Thread Marcus Daniels
There's a large dog park where I walk my dog most every day. One of the minor downsides of this park is that there are these geezers there that sit on the park benches and rant about various things. Their dogs are puzzled because all the other dogs get walks, but they are expected to sit the

Re: [FRIAM] When are telic attributions appropriate in physical descriptions?

2024-08-13 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Years ago, a teacher offered me the following universal adage. He who, he who, He who, he who. I have never been the same since. It's nothing if not asinine. N On Tue, Aug 13, 2024 at 1:21 PM Marcus Daniels wrote: > There's a large dog park where I walk my dog most every day. One of the >

Re: [FRIAM] When are telic attributions appropriate in physical descriptions?

2024-08-13 Thread Jon Zingale
Over the last week, I have had a chance to engage a few groups of friends in discussions about telos. In each discussion, I take it upon myself to puzzle out each participant's sense of the word and the nature of the problems that demand such definitions. I remember my confusion the first time I h

Re: [FRIAM] When are telic attributions appropriate in physical descriptions?

2024-08-13 Thread Frank Wimberly
When said with the right inflections it sounds like someone laughing. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Tue, Aug 13, 2024, 11:53 AM Nicholas Thompson wrote: > Years ago, a teacher offered me the following universal adage. > > He who, he

Re: [FRIAM] When are telic attributions appropriate in physical descriptions?

2024-08-13 Thread steve smith
Dude. OK. The Angels becoming Demons isn't a duality, at least in my intent raising it, here. Not clear which of the myriad usages of /dual/ you are saying it is not. But I will try to defer to your declaration that such doesn't map onto your intentions in invoking them.   Most oft/recently

[FRIAM] This makes me think of this list...

2024-08-13 Thread Frank Wimberly
Are We Living in the Age of Info-Determinism?

Re: [FRIAM] This makes me think of this list...

2024-08-13 Thread Marcus Daniels
I suspect LLMs like Grok trained on social media would compress millions of people down to a relatively small number of representative patterns. When debating topics on, say, Nextdoor, I find conversations have a predictable decision-tree type property. The more people in the thread the less nu