Re: [FRIAM] Lebesgue

2024-07-28 Thread Marcus Daniels
Is it better to have four channels with this as content or millions of streams where a tiny fraction of a percent has content like this? Hard not to like the leadership of the BBC here. From: Friam On Behalf Of Jon Zingale Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2024 7:35 PM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: [

[FRIAM] Clocks

2024-07-28 Thread Jon Zingale
Reflecting on recent conversations (both here and abroad), Michael Levin's developments of polycomputing, and in preparation for my new role as career coach to a GPT model, I have come to wonder: How might one productively set out to architect an unsupervised learning machine capable of discoverin

Re: [FRIAM] Clocks

2024-07-28 Thread Marcus Daniels
Claude gives 7 categories for consideration of time, and 9 categories for the physical definition of time. It gives this pseudocode for implementing an atomic clock. def atomic_clock(): while True: atoms = generate_atom_beam() selected_atoms = state_selection(atoms)

Re: [FRIAM] Clocks

2024-07-28 Thread steve smith
Jon - Great and timely framing of the meta-question. I've been reading David Abram's "Becoming Animal" which among many other things draws clear attention to the myriad ways that every organism is defined not just "socially" or even "nutriently" by it's complex embedding in an ecosystem or so

Re: [FRIAM] Clocks

2024-07-28 Thread Jon Zingale
Marcus, Not bad first steps. It knows how to describe the construction of a clock (an atomic beam, recognition of electron states, etc...), now for it to complete the task. What additional steps would I need to prompt, write, describe, etc... for it to find examples not already in the convex hull

Re: [FRIAM] Writing and Civilization and AI, oh my!

2024-07-28 Thread Jochen Fromm
I believe Qualia can be encoded. How? If we take a look at Olympic sport events we can distinguish between sports where we can measure physical results objectively, like athletics or swimming where we can measure time, weight, height or distance, and sports where we judge beauty and aesthetics

Re: [FRIAM] Clocks

2024-07-28 Thread Marcus Daniels
It might be interesting to train a LLM on cellular automata rules to teach it how to design or detect reversible vs. destructive processes; to understand causality in operational terms. From: Friam On Behalf Of Jon Zingale Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 12:36 PM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re

Re: [FRIAM] Clocks

2024-07-28 Thread Frank Wimberly
Don't the sun, moon and earth work pretty well? I'm not sure learning is involved but they kind of define a standard. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Sun, Jul 28, 2024, 11:19 AM Jon Zingale wrote: > Reflecting on recent conversations

Re: [FRIAM] Lebesgue

2024-07-28 Thread Roger Frye
I love the point in lecture 3 where Alan Solomon says “but we are not practical men, we are mathematicians.” > On Jul 27, 2024, at 8:35 PM, Jon Zingale wrote: > > I love imagining this brilliant moment in late stage advanced capitalism when > there were at most four television stations and som

[FRIAM] Eric speaking Monday July 29 215p MDT at Lowenberg's Telluride conference

2024-07-28 Thread Stephen Guerin
Copied from Richard Lowenberg: Monday is day 4 of the 8 day, 12 LASER Zoom, Arts & Sciences: Telluride 2024 program, with 2 LASER Zoom sessions. The first: "Physics, Information and the Origin of Life", featuring 3 physicists: David Eric Smith, PhD (connecting from Japan), Edwin Valentijn, PhD (