Re: [FRIAM] Nick's Categories

2023-02-17 Thread Steve Smith
As absurd as this whole conversation feels in some ways, I find it fascinating (and possibly useful).  At the very least it seems to be an extreme example of empathy-seeking. This is "me" doing "mental stuff".   I don't know how to separate "mental stuff" from "body stuff" except perhaps /en e

Re: [FRIAM] Nick's Categories

2023-02-17 Thread Prof David West
Yes, I have experienced the "mental life" of the dirt at my feet (or rough equivalent). It is rather boring, given that the amount/degree of "psych" possessed by your average soil molecule is diminutive in the extreme. But the"psych" is there and it can be "sensed/perceived." At somewhat greate

Re: [FRIAM] Nick's Categories

2023-02-17 Thread glen
Interesting. I never claimed I can "feel what it is like to be trampled dirt". I merely asserted there is something that it is like to be trampled dirt. I have no sympathy or empathy for dirt whatsoever, trampled or otherwise. I can't be like trampled dirt or feel what it is like to be trampled

Re: [FRIAM] Nick's Categories

2023-02-17 Thread Steve Smith
This may be something of a "punt" but I tripped over an essay on BCS's OOO a few weeks ago and I've been wanting to introduce it into the conversation.  I wonder if the gap in the metaphysical fundament that we (don't) share might be bridged by some of BCS's ideas about "what means object anywa

Re: [FRIAM] Nick's Categories

2023-02-17 Thread glen
Great find. Thanks. I will read that. I'm a bit worried how you went from "trampled dirt" to a "pile of trampled dirt". This is the target of DaveW's first question of composition and structure. "Dirt" is a mass noun, whereas a "pile of dirt" is not. Mass nouns like "data" are interesting, I thi

Re: [FRIAM] Nick's Categories

2023-02-17 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Our family rule was, "Don't name anything you aren't ready to take to the vet." On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 10:47 AM Steve Smith wrote: > This may be something of a "punt" but I tripped over an essay on BCS's > OOO a few weeks ago and I've been wanting to introduce it into the > conversation. I wo

Re: [FRIAM] Nick's Categories

2023-02-17 Thread Steve Smith
On 2/17/23 11:39 AM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: Our family rule was, "Don't name anything  you aren't ready to take to the vet." if by vet you mean "repairman" or "carwash/detailer" then I agree... I anthropomorphize *some* vehicles and when I take them to the mechanic I do it with a similar f

Re: [FRIAM] Nick's Categories

2023-02-17 Thread glen
Just to follow up: Human cortical representations for reaching: mirror neurons for execution, observation, and imagery https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2045689/ Functional anatomy of execution, mental simulation, observation, and verb generation of actions: A meta‐analysis https://

Re: [FRIAM] Nick's Categories

2023-02-17 Thread Frank Wimberly
Based on my experience, if you tell a Mexican that you changed your mind in Spanish (me cambié la mente) they say, "you can't change your mind you can only change your opinion/intention/etc." --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Fri, Feb 17,

Re: [FRIAM] Thuram still happening?

2023-02-17 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Thanks, Jochen. I am on it. N On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 10:52 AM Jochen Fromm wrote: > It reminds me of this book: > The Zoologist's Guide to the Galaxy > > https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/646643/the-zoologists-guide-to-the-galaxy-by-arik-kershenbaum/ > > -J. > > > Original mess