Re: [FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

Ahhh Nick, Such limited vision. You may be correct vis-a-vis money (as nothing more than a pathological distortion — I have no experience) but are _so wrong_, at least potentially about sex. Like drugs, it can be a gateway to realms of knowledge, inter-personal and social connectivity, human an

Re: [FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

Reminds me over another author https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Kaczynski On May 4, 2021, at 9:12 PM, Pieter Steenekamp wrote:  I'd like to address a point Nick made earlier: Well, the first step would be to make a distinction between "progress" and "change", with the former being a su

Re: [FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

Hi, Pieter, I am tempted to say: “Yes. But what have you done for me, LATELY?” [Joke} And I have always been suspicious of Pinker; too much HAIR. [worse joke] And “But where’s the PROGRESS?” [Even worse joke] And But is it sustainable? [perhaps not a joke?]

[FRIAM] In the coldness of space...

In the coldest reaches of space, with what probability can I expect there to be quantum Turing machines? A number of years ago, I ran across a lecture by John Conway where he discusses the ubiquity of computers, his thought experiment posits a large warehouse, full of transistors and other electron

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EricS, Thank you for the kind and thoughtful response. Your 'three levels' project is interesting to me and reminds me (even if only tangentially) of an analysis I worked on regarding food webs, n-species Lotka-Volterra, and ABMs. I wanted to clarify for myself what each level of analysis offered

Re: [FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

Nick, I was bracing myself for you to say "*Yes, it's progress, but at what cost to the environment?*" I'm not defending the undefendable, human progress came at a huge cost to the environment. On Wed, 5 May 2021 at 17:28, wrote: > Hi, Pieter, > > > > I am tempted to say: > > > > *“Yes. But w

Re: [FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

Is it also fair to say that human progress came at a huge cost to ourselves? -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http:/

Re: [FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

Agreed! But so can discussions of bmw torque. It’s just what you care to invest in. N Nick Thompson thompnicks...@gmail.com https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ From: Friam On Behalf Of Prof David We

Re: [FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

Agreed! One can have meaningless sex, but who wants to? -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/

Re: [FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

> Agreed! One can have meaningless sex, but who wants to? Is that anything like gratuitous amounts of torque in your BMW? My Volt has silly amounts of torque, especially off the line and it is modulated to not allow tire slippage, but in spite of having a slightly difficult highway-entry I rarely

Re: [FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

I look forward to my next trip to Britain. It will be nice to sit back, relax, and let my sinister hand drive. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.l

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Jon, Mostly your comments were out of my league. However, one probably irrelevant fragment caught my eye. While Lamarckism wasn't right for Darwin… . Darwin always was a Lamarckian and became ever more so with every passing edition of the Origin. My favorite question in Biology o

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You're right ;) That is also one of my favorite facts about Darwin. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.

[FRIAM] FW: (no subject)

Oh, and …. this problem … If that intuition is valid, then the only things Selection could ever rescue from chaos become those that get canalized into these ur- developmental “programs”, with defined roles for genes, and merely allelic variation within each role. I would like to find a formal

[FRIAM] Germans head to Russia on the COVID package...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUKgJQfoZ14&ab_channel=DWNews While Sputnik V has yet to be approved in the EU, it is surprising how effective the vaccine has proven to be. Meanwhile, Mexico develops a nasal vaccine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IS3QvLVues&ab_channel=DWNews and ultimately, ev

Re: [FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

And how is environmental degradation not, after all, progress? Nick Thompson thompnicks...@gmail.com https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of jon zingale Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 11:34 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] The cas

Re: [FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

Yeah, I think it is safe to say that "huge costs" are a sign of progress in the same sense that smoke is a sign of fire. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GM

Re: [FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

Earlier, uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ said: If we're stuck with capitalism, then I'm for UBI. If we can get out from under capitalism, then I'm not. Nick added: it is the "triumph" of capitalism to reduce all relationships to money. I wonder if this is not assuming that there is an alternative to what you are callin

Re: [FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

Well, there are smarter people than me, who know more about Marxism than I do, on this list. But it seems there are ~5 principles to guide it: • civilization is already a cooperative enterprise, it's just a matter of cooperation's extent/ubiquity • there's nothing supernatural, so all solutions

Re: [FRIAM] In the coldness of space...

Classical or quantum computers need to be protected against radiation and designed to tolerate more of it. Space is an even harsher environment, not having the magnetosphere to protect against ionizing radiation. One of the main difficulties in quantum computing is achieving control but withou

Re: [FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

Yes, agreed, Russ, with amendments. I wrote some long awful thing on this yesterday and had the good manners to delete without sending. I think capitalism isn’t even about money; there are two issues: capitalist property rights and monetary or financial layers in the economy. I know Glen doesn

[FRIAM] Covid-Lancet-PART-2 (002).doc

Dear Colleagues, I attach a paper written by an internet acquaintance I made some years back, Dragan Pavlovic. I am sending it along for two reasons. First, it reveals (to me, at least) that the two negative studies on Hydroxychloroq

Re: [FRIAM] In the coldness of space...

I'm a little bit unsure about my knowledge about the subject, please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. Below is how I interpret some key issues around quantum computers. There are two different issues around quantum computers: 1 Practicalities around building a quantum computer with enough qb

[FRIAM] deficits do not matter

I'm not American but I'm a huge fan. It's where South Africans like Elon go because they are given space to innovate. It's just that I'm a bit concerned that the US government has possibly lately been slightly irresponsible in managing their finances? The graphs in the article in the link below pa

Re: [FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

Eric, You explained many of the problems in much more depth and detail than I did. Well done. Thanks. On Wed, May 5, 2021, 4:46 PM David Eric Smith wrote: > Yes, agreed, Russ, with amendments. > > I wrote some long awful thing on this yesterday and had the good manners > to delete without sendin