Re: [FRIAM] (no subject)

Jon, hi and thank you, So, I am not going to be knowledgeable or sophisticated enough to have a conversation with you as an equal on computational complexity classes and algorithms. I can tell you what I was hoping to take from Valiant, on the assumption that it is compatible with the current

Re: [FRIAM] semi-idle question

Of course. ... I realize I'm making a nonstandard argument. Often I regret trying to push the envelope like this because then I have to spend time trying to explain what I think, to little avail, probably because my thinking is sloppy. I don't know why I keep doing it ... too few nights at the

Re: [FRIAM] semi-idle question

Fwiw, your local lexicon at least has consistent bindings. :-) -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of u?l? ??? Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 8:59 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] semi-idle question Of course. ... I realize I'm making a nonstandard argument. Often

Re: [FRIAM] What makes you who you are?

Jochen, The idea that there is a “you” is an outsider’s view which you adopt as an “I”. You know that your “I” is a confusion, a collage. I have given up on “the will” altogether except as an expression of what my “you” is about to do. Am I going to bend down and pick up my socks. Let’s

Re: [FRIAM] semi-idle question

In defense of Wolfram, it is possible he writes in the passive voice just to antagonize people like the author of that article. He's not a part of the academic world, and doesn't have to use their currency. -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of u?l? ??? Sent: Wednesday, April 28

Re: [FRIAM] What makes you who you are?

Nick, I experience the world very differently from you. I have been aware of self observation as a source of inference about oneself ever since I was s student of Bem in the late sixties. I still experience hunger which leads me to eat. I do not infer that I'm hungry by observing that I am prep

Re: [FRIAM] semi-idle question

Well, I've always admired the Monty Python troupe's ability to *sustain* absurdity. It's relatively easy to be absurd for something as small as a minute long joke. But to do a 5 minute or more skit is impressive. If Wolfram adopts his ridiculous tone merely to antagonize people, that would be e

Re: [FRIAM] semi-idle question

I often ask something like, "How did a guy with a name like Roger Wilson get an Indian accent?" --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 11:20 AM uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ wrote: > Well, I've always admired the Monty Python troupe's ability t

Re: [FRIAM] What makes you who you are?

Yes, you do. Interoceptive hunger *is* observing yourself preparing to eat. The question is, at what *order* of organization (2nd? 10th? Nth? order) does "I" kick in? On 4/28/21 10:19 AM, Frank Wimberly wrote: > I do not infer that I'm hungry by observing that I am preparing to eat.  As > you

Re: [FRIAM] What makes you who you are?

Just to be clear: You don’t experience hunger as being on the way to eating.” Nick Thompson thompnicks...@gmail.com https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ From: Friam On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly Sent: Wednesd

Re: [FRIAM] What makes you who you are?

I was thinking about personalities and how they emerge. It is clear that we all have habits. Russell Poldrack says in his book, "Hard to Break" that the brain is a habit-building machine. If this habit-building is path dependent just like subjective experience, then habits over time make us who

Re: [FRIAM] What makes you who you are?

I dunno... there are plenty of times I feel hunger and am neither preparing to eat, nor do I prepare to eat because I'm hungry.   Other times, I might find myself eating out of social obligation, idle boredom, habit.    I'm not claiming that hunger and eating are unrelated, but I find it a bit much

Re: [FRIAM] What makes you who you are?

It all depends on what you mean by "preparing to eat": https://physicianschoice.com/blogs/blog/ghrelin-and-leptin On 4/28/21 11:32 AM, Steve Smith wrote: > I dunno... there are plenty of times I feel hunger and am neither > preparing to eat, nor do I prepare to eat because I'm hungry.   Other > t

Re: [FRIAM] semi-idle question

Ok, glen. First, stop with the cap-doffing! It invokes a standard of “qualification” that I’m pretty sure you don’t believe itn. Anyway, if you aren't qualified to have this conversation than nobody is, and I am not prepared to accept that obvious truth. The ONLY question here is whether we

[FRIAM] finally a reason to wear a hat

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Re: [FRIAM] What makes you who you are?

Any time you read that a cell "signals" to a brain, or to a person, transfer your intellectual wallet to an inside pocket. N Nick Thompson thompnicks...@gmail.com https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of u?l? ??? Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2

Re: [FRIAM] semi-idle question

Oh, I definitely believe in qualifications and accreditation. My entire professional career depends fundamentally on meeting standards and putting some degree of faith in "validated" things. So when I tell you I'm a moron, you'd best believe it ... even if it hasn't yet "played out" for you, yet

Re: [FRIAM] semi-idle question

Well, like all rhetoric, I guess even cap-doffing has its place. But I don't think FRIAM is it. And, like any quick-and-dirty heuristic, I guess expertise has its place. But I don't think FRIAM is it. Nick Nick Thompson thompnicks...@gmail.com https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

Re: [FRIAM] semi-idle question

Now *that's* a reasonable criticism, much better than the simple *command* telling me to stop doing something. Had you lead with "I don't think your cap-doffing is useful here". I would have probably said "Oh well, maybe you're right." On 4/28/21 12:22 PM, thompnicks...@gmail.com wrote: > Well,

Re: [FRIAM] semi-idle question

Gawd! I don't have capacity or standing to command you. That's just silly. n Nick Thompson thompnicks...@gmail.com https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of u?l? ??? Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 1:26 PM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re:

Re: [FRIAM] What makes you who you are?

I tend to agree. The singular exists and is different in kind from the particular. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe