Re: [FRIAM] "certain codes of conduct"

2020-07-31 Thread Eric Charles
Merle, Once you are a tiered as a student in the admissions process, there is a hell of a lot of chance involved. The best college rejection letter I received was from Stanford. It was two pages. The first was the standard F-off letter. The second were stats on the other applicants they told to F-

Re: [FRIAM] "certain codes of conduct"

2020-07-31 Thread Eric Charles
Discussions of social mobility are odd. I understand that many countries have more than the U.S., but whenever I see actual numbers, the mobility seems pretty reasonable on average, and we are far from a caste system. If you scroll down here can see data from Pew data from 2015 (in the right part o

Re: [FRIAM] "certain codes of conduct"

2020-07-31 Thread David Eric Smith
That’s very useful, Eric, thank you. > On Jul 31, 2020, at 8:19 PM, Eric Charles > wrote: > > Discussions of social mobility are odd. I understand that many countries have > more than the U.S., but whenever I see actual numbers, the mobility seems > pretty reasonable on average, and we are fa

Re: [FRIAM] "certain codes of conduct"

2020-07-31 Thread Angel Edward
Frank, There a lot to said for targeted gifts that focus on support for a variety of under represented groups. Modest gifts are pretty much irrelevant to getting one's kid into an elite school. Recall that Jared Kushner’s father gave Harvard $2.5M to get him in. Harvard is so well endowed tha

Re: [FRIAM] "certain codes of conduct"

2020-07-31 Thread thompnickson2
On the other hand, I do know somebody who poured $ into Harvard until their son floated to the top. n Nicholas Thompson Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology Clark University thompnicks...@gmail.com

Re: [FRIAM] "certain codes of conduct"

2020-07-31 Thread Gary Schiltz
Probably the reason K-12 underfunding isn't addressed much here has to do with the fact that the list is populated by a high proportion of us old farts and fartesses :-) who are temporally past the age of direct involvement with K-12 and kids in general. I suspect that the more politically left-lea

Re: [FRIAM] "certain codes of conduct"

2020-07-31 Thread Frank Wimberly
Yep. We are raising an 8 year old but he goes to private school. On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 11:37 AM Gary Schiltz wrote: > Probably the reason K-12 underfunding isn't addressed much here has to do > with the fact that the list is populated by a high proportion of us old > farts and fartesses :-) w

Re: [FRIAM] "certain codes of conduct"

2020-07-31 Thread Gary Schiltz
Well, you and Debbie are late bloomers. On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 1:03 PM Frank Wimberly wrote: > Yep. We are raising an 8 year old but he goes to private school. > > On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 11:37 AM Gary Schiltz > wrote: > >> Probably the reason K-12 underfunding isn't addressed much here has t

Re: [FRIAM] "certain codes of conduct"

2020-07-31 Thread Edward Angel
Gary, Does temporally past the age of direct involvement imply we’ll be more involved when we’re 80? or 90? Seriously though, I believe a lot can be accomplished by us old farts by being willing to get out of our comfort zones. A few years ago I would have never thought I’d be involved workin

[FRIAM] Constructive mathematics.

2020-07-31 Thread Frank Wimberly
Glen et al,. This morning Glen raised some interesting questions about the limitations of constructive mathematics if I understood correctly. My undergraduate advisor, Errett Bishop wrote a book called Foundations of Constructive Analysis. Fortunately I inherited a copy from Reuben. I will rea

Re: [FRIAM] Constructive mathematics.

2020-07-31 Thread Frank Wimberly
Also the Axiom of Choice can be shown to entail the cardinal rule of classical logic, the law of excluded middle—the assertion that A∨¬AA∨¬A for any proposition AA. To be precise, using the rules of intuitionistic logic within our augmented language LL, we shall derive[15

Re: [FRIAM] Constructive mathematics.

2020-07-31 Thread Joe Spinden
I'll bite.  Why should a real numbers not be defined as an equivalence class of Cauchy sequences of rational numbers? Joe On 7/31/20 1:03 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote: Glen et al,. This morning Glen raised some interesting questions about the limitations of constructive mathematics if I underst

Re: [FRIAM] "certain codes of conduct"

2020-07-31 Thread Gary Schiltz
When speaking of "temporally past", I assumed that for the majority of us young whipper snappers who haven't yet reached 80 or 90 (I'm just shy of 62), that those ages would be in our temporal future. Of course with all the quantum woo floating around the list, I hate to make any absolute statement

Re: [FRIAM] "certain codes of conduct"

2020-07-31 Thread thompnickson2
Hi, Gary, There are lots of things that “people like us” don’t know about celestial mechanics. Like the moon traverses the sky from its northern most point to its southern most point EVERY MONTH. More over, now a days, the Full moon is high in the winter and low in the summer. Some year