Re: [FRIAM] SFI virtual workshop: After the Wave

2020-04-07 Thread Steven A Smith
SG I found Meyers' talks from the Fall which preceded (presaged?) this and thought you had just linked those!  I'm glad to see our "big siblings on the hill" are on this with full attention. Did anyone else watch this 2 hour presentation?  I'm working my way through it now in the background. SS

Re: [FRIAM] SFI virtual workshop: After the Wave

2020-04-07 Thread thompnickson2
Steve, Perhaps we might talk about this on Friday. I guess the questions are, “Can we eliminate community transfer?” and, if so, “At what level of social distancing do we have to maintain in order to make sure that a program of testing, vigorous contact tracing and isolation is assured?”

Re: [FRIAM] SFI virtual workshop: After the Wave

2020-04-07 Thread Frank Wimberly
Wisconsin's primary is underway despite the governor's attempt to postpone it. People in the (long!) lines are standing 6 feet apart more or less. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Tue, Apr 7, 2020, 10:51 AM wrote: > Steve, > > > > Perha

[FRIAM] Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

2020-04-07 Thread thompnickson2
2 new cases in Santa Fe; doubling time @ 9 days; lowest three Day average (3.7) since March 25th, I think. Assuming that it takes 3 weeks for each case to resolve, this was the first day that number of new cases was balanced by number of resolved cases. ? But some mall stores open and a lot of

[FRIAM] RedState/BlueState OneState/TwoState

2020-04-07 Thread Steven A Smith
> Steve, > >   > > Perhaps we might talk about this on Friday.   I guess the questions are, > > “Can we eliminate community transfer?”  > By this, I assume you mean the "crypto" transfer where the *source* of infection isn't recognized even in retrospect? The conventional/modeling wisdom is keep

[FRIAM] FRIAM Regular Session 9 a

2020-04-07 Thread Tom Johnson (via Google Docs)
I've shared an item with you: FRIAM Regular Session 9 a https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Cgu8mvXeGOCyVG2fRjwY646nv1D7n4Zl6hFhWkWkXf0/edit?usp=sharing&ts=5e8d1685 It's not an attachment -- it's stored online. To open this item, just click the link above. Alert for Friday's convocation. Fe

Re: [FRIAM] RedState/BlueState OneState/TwoState

2020-04-07 Thread Steven A Smith
>> and, if so, “At what level of social distancing do we have to >> maintain in order to make sure that a program of testing, vigorous >> contact tracing and isolation is assured?” >> > I would claim that the *quality* of social distancing is very > important...  but those "qualities" haven't been

Re: [FRIAM] RedState/BlueState OneState/TwoState

2020-04-07 Thread thompnickson2
Steve (Smith), I have always assumed that “community transmission” is one of those bullshit terms that refers to our own ignorance. If we were unable to find out how it got transmitted then it was an instance of “community transmission”. Am I wrong about that? So, community transmis

Re: [FRIAM] RedState/BlueState OneState/TwoState

2020-04-07 Thread Steven A Smith
Nick - I wrote (yet) another long-winded answer but am trying to give you the most succinct version I can: I think you are nearly correct. First: Yes, "community transmission" is somewhat another name for our ignorance... but it is a critical threshold.  As soon as you have one case  you don't k

Re: [FRIAM] RedState/BlueState OneState/TwoState

2020-04-07 Thread thompnickson2
Steve, I like your long wind. I am grateful for your attempt to imagine a world in the interim between the wave and the vaccine. Has china actually eliminated the virus from the population and the are merely putting out sparks that have blown in from other places? Nick

Re: [FRIAM] RedState/BlueState OneState/TwoState

2020-04-07 Thread Steven A Smith
> Steve, > >   > > I like your long wind.  > >   > > I am grateful for your attempt to imagine a world in the interim > between the wave and the vaccine. > In the world pre-vaccine (including among wild animal populations), the only thing keeping a disease from extincting a population IS a combina

Re: [FRIAM] RedState/BlueState OneState/TwoState

2020-04-07 Thread David Eric Smith
> Has china actually eliminated the virus from the population and the are > merely putting out sparks that have blown in from other places? I would bet very high odds that is not the case. They have probably greatly reduced the caseload. Friends there say they are rebuilding daily activities