[FRIAM] covid question

2020-04-01 Thread Prof David West
Given that 23-30 percent (US estimated numbers) up to 50 percent (Iceland reported numbers) of Covid positives are asymptomatic: 1) if you have the disease, but do not show symptoms, do you still develop an immunity after some period of time? 2) If a pregnant woman recovers from the disease, is

Re: [FRIAM] covid question

2020-04-01 Thread thompnickson2
D If we just agreed that we won't intubate anybody over 60, we could have this thing over in a jiffy. N Nicholas Thompson Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology Clark University thompnicks...@gmail.com https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ -Original Message- From: Friam O

[FRIAM] FRIAM Regular Session 9 a

2020-04-01 Thread Tom Johnson (via Google Docs)
I've shared an item with you: FRIAM Regular Session 9 a https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Cgu8mvXeGOCyVG2fRjwY646nv1D7n4Zl6hFhWkWkXf0/edit?usp=sharing&ts=5e84cf9b It's not an attachment -- it's stored online. To open this item, just click the link above. Who among the clan will take the ta

Re: [FRIAM] covid question

2020-04-01 Thread Steven A Smith
> Given that 23-30 percent (US estimated numbers) up to 50 percent (Iceland > reported numbers) of Covid positives are asymptomatic: I believe that "asymptomatic" is a blurry concept in this case.   There is "presymptomatic" and "subsymptomatic" and "cryptosymptomatic" even "cosymptomatic".   

Re: [FRIAM] covid question

2020-04-01 Thread Barry MacKichan
I saw in a major media post (I forget which one) a reference to “asymptotic” cases. My ‘guess’ is that these are asymptomatic, but getting closer and closer to symptomatic. —Barry On 1 Apr 2020, at 14:48, Steven A Smith wrote: I believe that "asymptomatic" is a blurry concept in this case.  

Re: [FRIAM] covid question

2020-04-01 Thread thompnickson2
David, barry, etc. I have listened to a plethora of pod casts ... all a blur ... but the consensus on re infection seems to be that it will be impossible, at least for a time after infection is resolved. However, everybody admits, on close questioning, that this believe is based on an analogy

Re: [FRIAM] covid question

2020-04-01 Thread Marcus Daniels
Nick writes: < If we just agreed that we won't intubate anybody over 60, we could have this thing over in a jiffy. > And they've had *all their lives* to buy one and have in their garage. So irresponsible! Marcus From: Friam on behalf of thompnicks...@gmail.c

Re: [FRIAM] covid question

2020-04-01 Thread Steven A Smith
> Nick writes: > > < If we just agreed that we won't intubate anybody over 60, we could > have this thing over in a jiffy. > > > And they've had *all their lives* to buy one and have in their > garage.  So irresponsible! > > Marcus It turns out I do have an O2 Cylinder, a full-face snorkel mask

Re: [FRIAM] covid question

2020-04-01 Thread Steven A Smith
> Nick writes: > > < If we just agreed that we won't intubate anybody over 60, we could > have this thing over in a jiffy. > > Oh yeh... and I think for each of us, we should insert: "won't intubate anyone over " to think this through with the right attitude.   And maybe even consider "won't admit

[FRIAM] Flee to Barsoom!

2020-04-01 Thread Steven A Smith
I wonder if Musk is ramping up his efforts to take 1M people to colonize Mars...  These smartie-pants are selling deeds to an acre (not even a metric hectare?) of land on Mars at a groupon discount of $12 (limited time only?). https://www.groupon.com/deals/buy-planet-mars-1?p=3&utm_source=channel

[FRIAM] YIKES!: Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

2020-04-01 Thread thompnickson2
Not good for the theory. Yes, Tom. That theory. Nick Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx Description: MS-Excel 2007 spreadsheet FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to

Re: [FRIAM] YIKES!: Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

2020-04-01 Thread Frank Wimberly
Exponential with increasing derivative. --- Frank C. Wimberly 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Wed, Apr 1, 2020, 9:01 PM wrote: > Not good for the theory. > > > > Yes, Tom. That theory. > > > > Nick > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group lis

Re: [FRIAM] YIKES!: Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

2020-04-01 Thread Frank Wimberly
As it approaches the peak the derivative will decrease. We're not there yet. --- Frank C. Wimberly 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Wed, Apr 1, 2020, 9:33 PM Frank Wimberly wrote: > Exponential with increasing derivative. > > --- > Frank C. Wimberly > 505 670-9918 > Santa Fe, NM > > On Wed, Apr 1,