Re: [FRIAM] science privilege — fork from acid epistemology

2020-03-17 Thread Prof David West
Hi Nick, You are correct: I assert that you can know things of which you cannot speak; but there is still too much ambiguity in that statement. It would be more correct to say: some experiences are not expressible in words. I am making a narrow, but ubiquitous, claim — ubiquitous, because all o

Re: [FRIAM] science privilege — fork from acid epistemology

2020-03-17 Thread Frank Wimberly
Excellent essay, David. --- Frank C. Wimberly 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Tue, Mar 17, 2020, 4:18 AM Prof David West wrote: > Hi Nick, > > You are correct: I assert that you can know things of which you cannot > speak; but there is still too much ambiguity in that statement. It would be > more

Re: [FRIAM] science privilege — fork from acid epistemology

2020-03-17 Thread Steven A Smith
Dave - I myself am having an ineffable experience just now, as my drive through the big-rock country has taken on a Mad Max quality (simile borrowed from a friend on his own Hellride back up the coast of CA after retrieving his college son, with counties closing down behind him as he rolls through

Re: [FRIAM] science privilege — fork from acid epistemology

2020-03-17 Thread Frank Wimberly
Who knew this: Qwan dictionary definition | qwan defined - YourDictionary qwan. Acronym. Quality Without A Name - in computer programming QWAN refers to a more metaphysical attribute that expresses elegancy of code. ? --- Frank C. Wimberly 505 670-9918 Santa

Re: [FRIAM] science privilege — fork from acid epistemology

2020-03-17 Thread Marcus Daniels
I’ve always interpreted the usage of those terms as passing admiration: “That’s good but don’t get so self-indulgent thinking about why.” From: Friam on behalf of Frank Wimberly Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Date: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 at 8:34 AM To: The Frid

Re: [FRIAM] science privilege — fork from acid epistemology

2020-03-17 Thread George Duncan
Qwan in Tagalog (usually spelled Kwan) is a very common word meanining “whatchamacallit”or “who’s it” so not giving a soecific name to whatever or whom ever is being referred to. On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 11:34 AM Frank Wimberly wrote: > Who knew this: > > Qwan dictionary definition | qwan defined

Re: [FRIAM] science privilege — fork from acid epistemology

2020-03-17 Thread Prof David West
QWAN - Quality Without A Name - from Christopher Alexander, most prominently in his book *The Timeless Way of Building*. Got into Software world via the patterns community and the Gamma, Helm, Johnson, and Vlissides book, *Design Patterns: Elements of Reusable Object-Oriented Software.* Alexand

Re: [FRIAM] science privilege — fork from acid epistemology

2020-03-17 Thread Marcus Daniels
Dave writes: “Got into Software world via the patterns community” The difference between metaprogramming and patterns, is that metaprogramming is put to work, and patterns is talk. Marcus From: Friam on behalf of Prof David West Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group

Re: [FRIAM] science privilege — fork from acid epistemology

2020-03-17 Thread Roger Frye
Another relevant word is "sous rature", which translates as "under erasure". Originally used by Heidegger when discussing Being, and extended by Derrida. It refers to the practice of writing a word and crossing it out so that the original can still be seen. It means that the word is not totally sui

Re: [FRIAM] science privilege — fork from acid epistemology

2020-03-17 Thread Prof David West
more like the "programming pearls" that were published in the 80s and 90s. On Tue, Mar 17, 2020, at 6:29 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > Dave writes: > > “Got into Software world via the patterns community” > > The difference between metaprogramming and patterns, is that metaprogramming > is

[FRIAM] Why is it the last several pandemics have come from bats?

2020-03-17 Thread Gillian Densmore
Why is it the last several pandemics have come from bats? and what's with the unusual panic about this one? We had bird flue, sars, zeeka, Ebola (several times), polio...but then one asshole of a cold from bats (they think). And it's as if they didn't know what to do. China didn't instigate a qua

Re: [FRIAM] Why is it the last several pandemics have come from bats?

2020-03-17 Thread Carl Tollander
This, re bats... TL;DR: 2107 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_KqzArksQU More: 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=TRVxTBuvChU&feature=emb_logo Carl On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 6:23 PM Gillian Densmore wrote: > Why is it the last several pandemics have come from bats? and w

Re: [FRIAM] Why is it the last several pandemics have come from bats?

2020-03-17 Thread Carl Tollander
Or, if you want some entertaining sci-fi on similar subject (HERVs and how the CDC political interactions go wonky), "Darwin's Radio". and sequel "Darwin's Children", by Greg Bear. C On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 9:07 PM Carl Tollander wrote: > This, re bats... > TL;DR: 2107 https://www.youtub