Re: [FRIAM] science privilege — fork from acid epistemology

2020-03-15 Thread Prof David West
And my pique is not the fault of others, it is from within myself — at least in large part. I started thinking about all the ways that Vedic and Taoist and Hermetic thought has informed Western Science - almost totally without attribution — and thought, "hey, why not find a nice graduate progra

Re: [FRIAM] science privilege — fork from acid epistemology

2020-03-15 Thread Prof David West
comments embedded. On Sat, Mar 14, 2020, at 5:26 PM, thompnicks...@gmail.com wrote: > Dave and Glen, > > It's great to see your two frames coming into adjustment. At the risk > of taking the discussion back to absurdity, let me try to express, in > laughably simple terms, what I hear you guys

Re: [FRIAM] science privilege — fork from acid epistemology

2020-03-15 Thread Prof David West
Automation will displace humans at the exact rate that we define human as that which a computer can do. If a computer cannot do it, then it is not a real human ability. My claim, as such, is more analogous to the argument that audiophiles advance with regard digital sound. When you digitize you

Re: [FRIAM] science privilege — fork from acid epistemology

2020-03-15 Thread thompnickson2
Dave, Thanks for this. And it goes very well most of the way, but there is one spot where you persistently misunderstand me, and so I will go directly to that: > Let's say, I say to you that "to speak of that of which we cannot > speak" is non-sense. DW**It is no, everyone has ex

Re: [FRIAM] science privilege — fork from acid epistemology

2020-03-15 Thread Marcus Daniels
Dave writes: < My claim, as such, is more analogous to the argument that audiophiles advance with regard digital sound. When you digitize you create a square wave within the confines of the analog wave. Unless your sampling rate is infinite, there will always be some information loss — the gaps

Re: [FRIAM] science privilege — fork from acid epistemology

2020-03-15 Thread Frank Wimberly
Nick, Think of the statement that "there are things about which we cannot speak" as a metastatement about the limitations of language. In mathematics we can prove that there are theorems that we cannot prove in a system with fewer axioms than in the metasystem. Frank --- Frank C. Wimberly 505 6

[FRIAM] Why outbreaks like coronavirus spread exponentially, and how to “flatten the curve” - Washington Post

2020-03-15 Thread Tom Johnson
Interesting simulations. Scroll down. https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mai

Re: [FRIAM] Why outbreaks like coronavirus spread exponentially, and how to “flatten the curve” - Washington Post

2020-03-15 Thread Gary Schiltz
I love the simulations, kind of a "NetLogo meets Pong". On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 11:07 PM Tom Johnson wrote: > Interesting simulations. Scroll down. > > https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/ > > FRIAM Appl