Re: [FRIAM] Abduction

2018-12-27 Thread lrudolph
Glen wrote, in relevant part, "Like mathematicians, maybe we have to ultimately commit to the ontological status of our parsing methods?" I wish to question the implicit assumption that mathematicians _do_ (or even _ought to_) "ultimately commit to the ontological status" of _anything_ in pa

Re: [FRIAM] Abduction

2018-12-27 Thread ∄ uǝʃƃ
First, by saying you and Eric(C) *attribute* so-and-so to Peirce, I'm not suggesting you're wrong. I'm expressing my ignorance. But I don't want to (falsely) accuse Peirce of anything, since he's not here to defend himself. So, I can only respond to what you say about what he said. I'm very

Re: [FRIAM] An Overview of Dark Matter – Sasha Manu – Medium

2018-12-27 Thread uǝlƃ ☣
I hate that use of the word with as much passion as I hate the (modern) use of methodology. I cringe every time I read some simulation paper or see a talk where they use "methodologies". Ugh. What in hell's wrong with "methods"? Why do those blasted kids have to abuse language so badly? Get

Re: [FRIAM] An Overview of Dark Matter – Sasha Manu – Medium

2018-12-27 Thread Gary Schiltz
My exposure to the term "ontology" was primarily through work on the overhyped "semantic web" popularized a decade or so ago. As I see it, this use of the term refers to a means for specifying a distributed schema for data description, using logic constructs. Early work sponsored by DARPA resulted

Re: [FRIAM] 2019 - The end of Trumpism

2018-12-27 Thread Jochen Fromm
A really nice observation: "Trump supporters are not individualists, they are just people trying to recover privilege they didn’t earn and now see slipping away" The same phenomenon can be observed in racism, sexism and nationalism everywhere, not just in America. It happens for instance in racis

Re: [FRIAM] 2019 - The end of Trumpism

2018-12-27 Thread uǝlƃ ☣
Thanks for reminding me! When I read Marcus' original claim, I balked. But then forgot it because I wanted to respond to the other thread. The principle of leveling the playing field so that any given player has the chance to become an individual is flawed, I think ... somehow, though I don't

[FRIAM] g-conjecture?

2018-12-27 Thread uǝlƃ ☣
I'm sure most of you know more about this than me. But since I'm in a kind of pseudo-holiday state between work and doing nothing, perhaps you are too: Amazing: Karim Adiprasito proved the g-conjecture for spheres! https://gilkalai.wordpress.com/2018/12/25/amazing-karim-adiprasito-proved-the-g-

Re: [FRIAM] 2019 - The end of Trumpism

2018-12-27 Thread Jochen Fromm
I don't know, it could be even simpler. The demagogue promises to make the country great again. The racist hears his "race" (whatever that is) will become great again. The sexist hears his "sex" will become great again. The nationalist hears his "nation" will become great again. Of course nothin

Re: [FRIAM] 2019 - The end of Trumpism

2018-12-27 Thread Marcus Daniels
Glen writes: < What *if* (as Steve put it in his "muffled cries"), there are peaks in the landscape that *require* many non-individuals to form a scaffold for some (as yet unbound) non-individual to become an individual? > Let's say there is a great woman, and through my heavy-handed interven

Re: [FRIAM] 2019 - The end of Trumpism

2018-12-27 Thread uǝlƃ ☣
OK. But let's assume we could at least agree on LaVey's complaint: "It's too bad stupidity isn't painful." The idea being to select against some (special) formulation of innovative/crazy/creative/lucky behavior for which we have an accounting and that accounting shows "bad" (leads to costs we d

Re: [FRIAM] 2019 - The end of Trumpism

2018-12-27 Thread Marcus Daniels
There will always be some system-level objectives where individuality is compromised for the sake of the population. I'm just pointing out that if creating many unique individuals is a goal some ideology (like supposedly that the Trump supporters advocate), then it has to be enforced by the go

Re: [FRIAM] Abduction

2018-12-27 Thread Nick Thompson
Lee, Since your substance is way beyond me, I have to raise a matter of style. Is, perhaps, your reference to a mouse in your pocket, a covert reference to an old bar joke which I thought only I knew (despite my having told it a hundred times) to which the punch line is, "And that goes for your

Re: [FRIAM] Abduction

2018-12-27 Thread Nick Thompson
Lee Rodulph wrote: As I have learned from Nick, Peirce is also committed to the defense of "the dignity of fallible knowledge" (at least, I *think* I've learned that from Nick; but I might be wrong...). Well, it’s possible your learned the sentiment from me, but your way of expressing it,

Re: [FRIAM] Abduction

2018-12-27 Thread Prof David West
"Trump supporters are not individualists, they are just people trying to recover privilege they *didn’t earn *and now see slipping away" Three brief comments: 1- Refusal to "know your enemy" and insistence on erroneous straw man characterizations of that enemy is exactly what will allow Trump

Re: [FRIAM] An Overview of Dark Matter – Sasha Manu – Medium

2018-12-27 Thread Nick Thompson
FWIW, I define it as the fundamental, unarticulated, inexplicit “picture” of the world that lies the way a person thinks and argues. Owen, if you had to define it, how would you? I have always sensed that you computer folk have a different understanding of the word. Nick Nicholas

Re: [FRIAM] Individualism

2018-12-27 Thread Marcus Daniels
David remarks: "2- Individualism is about responsibility - not ego, not 'privilege' - and includes a deeply felt responsibility to aid others who's circumstances mandate such aid. Questioning the means of providing that aid is not an argument against providing it. (Same thing is true of climat

Re: [FRIAM] g-conjecture?

2018-12-27 Thread lrudolph
> I'm sure most of you know more about this than me. But since I'm in a kind > of pseudo-holiday state between work and doing nothing, perhaps you are too: > > Amazing: Karim Adiprasito proved the g-conjecture for spheres! > https://gilkalai.wordpress.com/2018/12/25/amazing-karim-adiprasito-prov

Re: [FRIAM] Abduction

2018-12-27 Thread Nick Thompson
Glen, I thought the Century-Link outage was going to rescue me from my present quandary, which is that I am still working on your email from three days ago, while now you heap on more, each more interesting and pertinent than the one before. So to THIS one I say only that to a Peircean, all

Re: [FRIAM] Abduction

2018-12-27 Thread Frank Wimberly
Dear Prof, There was a philosophy professor at the University of Pittsburgh named Adolph Grunbaum whose career was partly defined by his writings on "is psychoanalysis science?" His papers and books generally concluded that it isn't. Pitt also had one of the only university-affiliated psychoanal

Re: [FRIAM] 2019 - The end of Trumpism

2018-12-27 Thread Marcus Daniels
< 1- Refusal to "know your enemy" and insistence on erroneous straw man characterizations of that enemy is exactly what will allow Trump to be re-elected. > This is like going to a store with a child psychopath who screams that you are "putting hands on them" until you consent to buy them the